Posted: 3/4/2010 4:45:59 PM EDT
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Well as some of you know, in July I am transferring from Okinawa to Japan to New York. I am in the process of ordering two new Jeeps for my wife and I to be delivered once we leave Japan. Having lived in Tennessee, North Carolina, Hawaii, Arizona, and Japan I have never been concerned about road salt causing corrosion. The delaer is offering Ziebart as an option on both Jeeps. Seems like it might be snake oil to me. What do you think? What do you guys do for corrosion protection on vehicles, if anything? Any recommendations for me? Thank in advance. ETA: The cost is $649 for lifetime vehicle corrosion coverage. |
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Yeah don't spring for it...Vehicle finishes already come with that Zinc corrosion resistant finish.
On a side note...I am visiting my buddy who is stationed in Okinawa for 2 years (he is a dentist in the Navy)...I am flying out later this month. 3 nights in Tokyo, 6 in Okinawa. Any recommendations as to what to do??? |
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Thanks for the reply. You're coming to Okinawa at a good time. Our weather is much better than yours. I would recommend taking the battle sights tour, you friend can get discounted tickets through the base. It's a pretty good tour that covers some detailed history of the Battle of Okinawa. Shuri-jo Castle is also pretty cool to see. You must, absolutely must, eat at Coco-Ichibanya Curry House when you are here. Just trust me on this one. Chicken cutlet with cheese and garlic bits. If you like spicy food get it at least level 6 - I normally get level 8. Not sure if you dive or not (I don't) but supposedly the diving is great here. Tons of cool bars and restaurants here too. Lots of cool beaches but the water is cold right now. For me, Okinawa is all about the history, food and beer. Orion beer is Okinawa brewed and is awesome. I will try to think of some other cool stuff and let you know. Your friend here will likely have the same, or similar, recommendations. Quoted: Yeah don't spring for it...Vehicle finishes already come with that Zinc corrosion resistant finish. On a side note...I am visiting my buddy who is stationed in Okinawa for 2 years (he is a dentist in the Navy)...I am flying out later this month. 3 nights in Tokyo, 6 in Okinawa. Any recommendations as to what to do??? |
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Awesome! Thanks for the info!
We are both indeed SCUBA divers...and we will be wearing fullbody wetsuits as well since the water isn't too warm. We are also doing some Spear Fishing...He has caught a lot of big fish in his time there so far, so we should have some good luck. WWII stuff is definitely on my list of stuff to do...the bunkers and suicide cliffs look cool. Thanks for the food recommendation...I am a total foodie as well...so that sounds perfect. Orion beer...here I come. |
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Quoted: Awesome! Thanks for the info! We are both indeed SCUBA divers...and we will be wearing fullbody wetsuits as well since the water isn't too warm. We are also doing some Spear Fishing...He has caught a lot of big fish in his time there so far, so we should have some good luck. WWII stuff is definitely on my list of stuff to do...the bunkers and suicide cliffs look cool. Thanks for the food recommendation...I am a total foodie as well...so that sounds perfect. Orion beer...here I come. Since you're a foodie.... Coco-Ichibanya curry house - already mentioned Kebab House - Inadian food with the best bread in the world. I am a bread Junkie and have probably eaten bread in 25 ro 30 different countries. The Naan bread at Kebab house is the best bread I have ever had. Kastamandap - Again, Indian food. The best butter chicken around. Sauce Live - Jamaican guy who opend a bar here in Okinawa. He started making bar food (ribs, wings, shrimp, etc.) and sold so much food he changed his bar to a restaurant that serves those same foods. Take a group and get a party platter for 80 bucks that will feed 8 people or so. The service is SLOW but the food is AWESOME and the beer is cold. Ono Kau Kau - Hawaiian restaurant with an "Aloha Special" that comes with rice, macaroni salad, garlic chicken, mahi mahi, and kalua pork. It's awesome. And of cours ethe sushi and sashimi as great here - just not my thing so I can recommend much of it other than the spicy tuna roll at Isakaya Genke. Check out this website www.okinawahai.com |
| In the summer I like to wash my own car. In the winter, I do the touch-less with the under carriage cleaning. Does a pretty good job, I usually do it once a week depending on how much salt gets on the car. A lot of places will let you do a pay for 5 get 6 washes or a free wash after so many visits or something. Well worth it to keep your car clean. |
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Seems as though they don't offer them in 37 X 12.50 
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save the money and get yourself a set of nokian snow tires. Lift it up and put the big tires on it an stay up off the road away from the salt. thats what i did. that and car washes. jeeps are easy enough to spray off the undercarriage. |
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My parents were talked into some sort of electronic device that puts out a negative (?) charge throughout the frame, or anything metal, or something like that.....to prevent rusting on their new Explorer (this was quite a few years ago).
Either it was busted, or it it just plain doesn't work, because it sure as hell didn't do anything for preventing rust. I just keep my car cleaned. I can't stand to let it get all grimy anyway. But I'm anal about that kind of stuff. |
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My parents were talked into some sort of electronic device that puts out a negative (?) charge throughout the frame, or anything metal, or something like that.....to prevent rusting on their new Explorer (this was quite a few years ago). Either it was busted, or it it just plain doesn't work, because it sure as hell didn't do anything for preventing rust. I just keep my car cleaned. I can't stand to let it get all grimy anyway. But I'm anal about that kind of stuff. That only works id the entire vehicle was immersed in the solution(in this case salt water). If you have a classic car or something you want to keep forevery you really need to buy a winter rat to drive in the salt and shit and keep your pride and joy off the road. I fool around with antique trucks all the time and this is really the best solution. Rubberized and asphalt Undercoating may work in the short term but after a while the rust gets behind it through small dings and cracks and then goes all over and you can't see what is getting damaged, there are other better solutions that are more semiliquid/waxy and areself healing if they get nicked. Most of these sprays really need to be applied once a year, it is easier to do in a warm month like August too fwiw. The best rust preventatives is Waxoyl it does work: http://www.google.com/search?q=waxoyl&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7SUNA you can make your own Waxoyl too if you want: http://www.metroweb.co.za/~pdoug/tips_and_recipes.htm http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/-285245-singlepost37.html LPS3 is supposed to work well too: http://www.heavydutystore.com/lps-3-03128-heavy-duty-inhibitor-1-gal-bottle-pr-18900.html 3M Rust Fighter II, Boeshield, Dinitrol, and Fluid Film are opther popular ones. Simply the act of cleaning, inspecting and spraying once a year (with whatever product you decide on) will do a world of good. |
| Keep it in a garage. Wash the vehicle off when you can. Leaving it in the elements is so much worse for corrosion, Most people lease a new vehicle every 4 years, so corrosion is not an issue. Hit a surffishing board for real tips. Those guys drive through salt water. Heard good things about Waxoyl. But that is more for hard to replace vehicles. You can buy a Jeep anytime, anywhere. |
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I have a 2005 Jeep Wrangler, only seen 2 winters on NY roads but its already getting light rust on the undercarriage... Also any aftermarket accessories that are "powdercoated" have flaked off and become rusty on the edges. I've messed around with a few anti-rust remedies and am currently waiting to see how they fair after this winter. I've covered a few items in 3M rubberized undercoating, and prep is everything.. I mean, removing part, remove all rust, sanding it down, covering in 2 coats primer, let dry a few days, cover in 2 coats flat black, let dry a few days, cover in multiple coats of undercoating, let dry for 2-3 weeks (seriously) Even after a week, the undercoating is dry to touch but still had some give, 2-3 weeks lets it dry enough where its very hard. Put anti-sieze on any bolts or other exposed threads that you will ever dream of removing in the next 5 years. I've noticed that areas around where I grease the grease fitting on the front of the Jeep don't rust, because that grease gets out and seaps around the immediate area, not the best thing to cover the undercarriage in as everything you touch will be greasy but it does work... I've heard of other people wiping down their chassis with motor oil before the winter. For the items that are not easily removable, I have a bottle of rust converter (turns iron-oxide into a stable black coating) that I'm going to slather on the undercarriage this spring, then I will cover that with a creeping wax compound like BoeShield, which is a wax with creeping agent to get it into all the nooks and crannies. I've used it on my steel winch cable and so far so good. Also, there's this stuff called "Plasti-Drip" that is ment for dipping the handle of tools and such in to form a think rubbery plastic on it... I've found a few parts on my Jeep that I can remove and dip in, a few coats of it gets you about 1/2 to 1mm of coating, and it seems to stick to stuff pretty well. I'll have to see how well it lasts though. |
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Stay away from after-market rustproofing as it can actually trap salt/water/moisture, block seep/drain holes and speed up the rust and corrosion process. Commercial car washes use recycled water and also force salt water into areas where it normally wouldn't get to. If you have access to a hose with fresh water you're better off using that instead of a commercial car wash. The only rusting problem I've had on any truck was a Toyota pick-up that was rustproofed at the dealer which I refused to pay for when I bought it. The fenders/bed basically rusted off it and the rear diff/suspension separated from the frame while it was being winched onto a flat bed. It blew a head gasket after 88,000 miles and wasn't worth fixing as the body/frame was in such poor condition. |