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1/11/2009 10:25:36 AM EDT
Thank god for the hometown forum, some people who can feel my pain. Im in the market for a new AR. I really dont want it to come with a perm. compressor so I would prefer a plain barrel. Anyone have ANY advice based on whats out there. I was looking at the s&w m&p15ft . I found one for 1600$. Not sure. Ive read some issues about them. Any other suggestions? Thanks!!!!
1/11/2009 10:37:10 AM EDT
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Ive read some issues about them. Any other suggestions? Thanks!!!!


issues with the s&w?

what kind of issues?
1/11/2009 10:47:14 AM EDT
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Liverpool, NY Herb Phillipsons had a S$W M4 FT, no sights front and rear, for $999 today. Also a bushy A4 with a carryhandle, same price. Both were plain barrels.
1/11/2009 10:49:07 AM EDT
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$1600 is way too much for a S&W... Gander Mountain has them for under $1000.  Bushmasters also come with a bare muzzle in their NY-legal config.
1/11/2009 11:03:36 AM EDT
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Liverpool, NY Herb Phillipsons had a S$W M4 FT, no sights front and rear, for $999 today. Also a bushy A4 with a carryhandle, same price. Both were plain barrels.


Any idea what the # is? Is it an army/navy store?



Ive read about quite a few people having FTF's on the "T" models.
1/11/2009 11:15:45 AM EDT
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Liverpool, NY Herb Phillipsons had a S$W M4 FT, no sights front and rear, for $999 today. Also a bushy A4 with a carryhandle, same price. Both were plain barrels.


Any idea what the # is? Is it an army/navy store?



Ive read about quite a few people having FTF's on the "T" models.


It's a local CNY chain sportgoods store. Just google the name and you'll find the website w/ locations.
1/11/2009 11:28:45 AM EDT
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you might also want to look for a stag 2t if you want a railed forearm. i've seen very little 'negative' reviews of any stag rifles.

though, the version stag ships as ban-compliant has a perm-attached brake.

my stag (current config): (pic removed because i didn't realize the model the OP was looking for)
1/11/2009 12:58:10 PM EDT
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Thank god for the hometown forum, some people who can feel my pain. Im in the market for a new AR. I really dont want it to come with a perm. compressor so I would prefer a plain barrel. Anyone have ANY advice based on whats out there. I was looking at the s&w m&p15ft . I found one for 1600$. Not sure. Ive read some issues about them. Any other suggestions? Thanks!!!!


I think the $1600 S$W the OP is talking about is at GEM Sports. It is a Performance Center model-not the "optics ready M4", and more $$$. It looks more like this:



Another good black rifle shop is Tim's Guns in Elbridge. Just east of the village on Rt 5. They had a decent selection of rifles as of last weekend.
1/11/2009 1:05:38 PM EDT
[#8]
though, stag's model 6 is similar (and cheaper).

1/11/2009 1:10:57 PM EDT
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Aren't Stag and S&W both really CMT?
1/11/2009 1:16:50 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Quoted:
Thank god for the hometown forum, some people who can feel my pain. Im in the market for a new AR. I really dont want it to come with a perm. compressor so I would prefer a plain barrel. Anyone have ANY advice based on whats out there. I was looking at the s&w m&p15ft . I found one for 1600$. Not sure. Ive read some issues about them. Any other suggestions? Thanks!!!!


I think the $1600 S$W the OP is talking about is at GEM Sports. It is a Performance Center model-not the "optics ready M4", and more $$$. It looks more like this:

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/oldglory_66/swpc.jpg

Another good black rifle shop is Tim's Guns in Elbridge. Just east of the village on Rt 5. They had a decent selection of rifles as of last weekend.



Hey no thats not the rifle i was talking about. It has the rail and troy front and rear. Its the m&p15ft .  Hey this tim's guns In elbridge, Im in syracuse so it looks to be right around me. I cant find it on a google search though.

1/11/2009 1:40:18 PM EDT
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Try the phone book. Those of you  BC (before computers) might remember what those are

Either way, get on Rt 5 and head west towards Elbridge. Its on the left just past the Ford dealership. I think this is the best gun shop in CNY for rifles and milsurp. He doesn't have pistols as of yet, although I hear rumors that the shop will be expanding.

If you don't find what you want there, go to Herbs in Liverpool. Only a ~15-20 minute drive from Tims.

EDIT: Tim carries Stags, as well as other makes. The M4 style rifles have been moving pretty quickly, from what I hear.
1/11/2009 1:44:41 PM EDT
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Actually, it came right up on google

Tim Evanchak Tim's Guns & Shooting Supplies Elbridge, NY 13060 email: Click here to email me phone: 315-468-0127 cellular: 315-380-7201 ...

1/11/2009 2:12:19 PM EDT
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Actually, it came right up on google

Tim Evanchak Tim's Guns & Shooting Supplies Elbridge, NY 13060 email: Click here to email me phone: 315-468-0127 cellular: 315-380-7201 ...




Hey, THANKS!
Ya believe it or not I don't have a phone book here at school haha seriously.

Thanks though, I appreciate it Ill give them a try tomorrow.
1/12/2009 12:46:18 AM EDT
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Aren't Stag and S&W both really CMT?


Stag/CMT made stuff for S&W when they (S&W) first started making AR's.  This is not the case anymore, and hasn't been for some time.