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9/4/2008 7:32:42 AM EDT
A friend of mine is looking into making his .22 look a little more "evil". He asked me if they're were any .22 hi cap mags made before the ban? I have no clue, so what say you arfcom? Also any reccomendations for replacement stocks top rails etc. to pimp out a .22?
9/4/2008 7:51:43 AM EDT
[#1]
I believe both Butler Creek and Ramline made pre-ban high caps.
9/4/2008 7:56:11 AM EDT
[#2]

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I believe both Butler Creek and Ramline made pre-ban high caps.


Yup, they have a different color follower.
I've seen alot of them at gun shows for around $20 or so...

9/4/2008 8:05:15 AM EDT
[#3]
There are 25 and 50 round preban mags available. Keep in mind that unless it's a preban rifle and even though it's a .22 rimfire you still can only have one evil (flash suppressor, pistol grip, folding stock etc.) "AW" feature.
9/4/2008 11:12:45 AM EDT
[#4]
ramline makes a cool folding stock/pistol grip body for the 10/22 as well

edit. heres the best pic i can find of my 10/22 with the ramline stuff

9/4/2008 12:14:06 PM EDT
[#5]
My first gun (which I still have) was a 10/22, bought in 1989.  I have all sorts of stuff on her, flash-hider (as if), folding stock, pistol grip.  

There are plenty of preban magazines.  I like 25 and 30 rounds.  50 round mags always jammed up on me.
9/4/2008 12:55:38 PM EDT
[#6]
Thanks, I dont suppose any of you guy's know of anywhere on Long Island or in NY my buddy could find these mags?? Also would a preban mag count as an evil feature?
9/4/2008 1:03:20 PM EDT
[#7]

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ramline makes a cool folding stock/pistol grip body for the 10/22 as well

edit. heres the best pic i can find of my 10/22 with the ramline stuff

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I'm assuming that's a preban 10/22.  I want one!
9/4/2008 1:03:45 PM EDT
[#8]
Most Ev-yil!
www.rbprecision.com/id72.htm

9/4/2008 2:01:40 PM EDT
[#9]
WOW !!! Do Want!!!!! Gotta email my friend that link
9/4/2008 2:05:12 PM EDT
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Also would a preban mag count as an evil feature?


No.

But also remember that a postban "hi-cap" (I hate that term) magazine is illegal even in a preban rifle.
9/4/2008 2:06:38 PM EDT
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Thanks, I dont suppose any of you guy's know of anywhere on Long Island or in NY my buddy could find these mags?? Also would a preban mag count as an evil feature?


I don't know but come on up to Middletown this weekend to the fun show.

Collector Rifle and Ammo always seems to have the eagle 30 rounders.  Many people may say those magazines suck as they are totally made of a cheap clear plastic but I actually find them to be quite functional magazines.
9/4/2008 2:23:12 PM EDT
[#12]

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"hi-cap" (I hate that term) magazine


+1  

I prefer the terms:

30+ Round Hi-Capacity as Standard Capacity

10 Round Capacity as Reduced Capacity
9/4/2008 2:44:53 PM EDT
[#13]

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Also would a preban mag count as an evil feature?


No.

But also remember that a postban "hi-cap" (I hate that term) magazine is illegal even in a preban rifle.


Right I understand that, just wanted to be sure I could get a legal mag and still have an evil feature.
9/4/2008 3:45:21 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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Also would a preban mag count as an evil feature?


No.

But also remember that a postban "hi-cap" (I hate that term) magazine is illegal even in a preban rifle.


Right I understand that, just wanted to be sure I could get a legal mag and still have an evil feature.


yep.... no problems
9/4/2008 5:34:55 PM EDT
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I'm assuming that's a preban 10/22.  I want one!

it is a preban too! me and my buddy have had it for a longg time. its probably one of my most favorite rifles
9/5/2008 4:50:18 AM EDT
[#16]
krinker plinker and nordic also make tacticool stocks.   rimfirecentral.com is the place to go for all things 10/22.
btw, tactical innovations makes the BEST hi cap 10/22 mags.  unfortunately they are not preban and thus not available here in prnj.
9/5/2008 5:04:27 AM EDT
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btw, tactical innovations makes the BEST hi cap 10/22 mags.  unfortunately they are not preban and thus not available here in prnj.



Don't fool yourself or others into thinking that there's a such thing as a preban mag in NJ, it's either less than 15rds and legal or over 15rds and illegal. The NJ law is much worse than NY or CA where they gave them a little leeway.
9/5/2008 5:36:56 PM EDT
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unfortunately they are not preban and thus not available here in prnj.


see above.  "preban" means nothing in NJ.

ar-jedi
9/5/2008 6:43:35 PM EDT
[#19]
NYS Penal Law:
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"Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device, manufactured after September thirteenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four, that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition; provided, however, that such term does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.


I'm guessing this means, you can have 30rd .22 mags?

Not sure if the 30rd .22 mags count as "Tubular" however. I guess it depends on your definition of tubular?
9/5/2008 7:41:44 PM EDT
[#20]
A "tubular magazine" is permanently attached beneath the barrel of the rifle.  You load the rounds one-by-one into it.  That is why it is not considered a LCAFD.

A LCAFD is a "removable magazine."

2 different animals altogether.
9/6/2008 2:02:47 AM EDT
[#21]
Yeah, what maddog said.


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NYS Penal Law:

"Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device, manufactured after September thirteenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four, that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition; provided, however, that such term does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.


I'm guessing this means, you can have 30rd .22 mags?

Not sure if the 30rd .22 mags count as "Tubular" however. I guess it depends on your definition of tubular?


Marlin Model 60's have tubular mags, and are legal in NY.  They hold 14 (I think) rounds.
9/6/2008 4:46:28 AM EDT
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Marlin Model 60's have tubular mags, and are legal in NY.  They hold 14 (I think) rounds.


I had a marin .22 many many years ago that had, IIRC, an 18 round tubular magazine.   I thought it was a "60", maybe "66?"
9/6/2008 5:27:39 AM EDT
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A "tubular magazine" is permanently attached beneath the barrel of the rifle.  You load the rounds one-by-one into it.  That is why it is not considered a LCAFD.

A LCAFD is a "removable magazine."

2 different animals altogether.


Not true. Any +10 ammunition feeding device (with the exception of an attached tubular .22 rimfire) including a fixed integral box magazine or an integral tubular magazine is still considered a LCAFD and is illegal to possess if manufactured after 09-13-1994. AFAIK the BATF did allow certain model lever action cowboy rifles in specific calibers to be manufactured during the ban with +10 tubular magazines.
9/6/2008 5:29:48 AM EDT
[#24]
So who's gonna step up and make a 30rd tube and shape the end like a surgical syringe bayonet? hahaha
9/6/2008 7:50:24 AM EDT
[#25]
Ah, I know what your talking about now, the things with a plunger/spring that feeds the rounds rearward under the barrel. Someone really should make one that loops around 3 times hey I don't think I've had the "tube" style jam once.
9/6/2008 5:14:23 PM EDT
[#26]

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unfortunately they are not preban and thus not available here in prnj.


see above.  "preban" means nothing in NJ.

ar-jedi


i am totally aware of the 15 rd. max for mags in prnj.

i was answering the question for our brother in ny.
9/6/2008 5:37:32 PM EDT
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Most Ev-yil!
www.rbprecision.com/id72.htm

Okay, that link is SO in my favorites now! Never know when you want to "Bling"-out a well-used 10/22.