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This is a bump because I am probably going to get a LaRue Stealth upper and want to shamelessly show it off.
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I've been considering a stealth upper, but I'm focusing on upgrading all my small parts instead.
Honestly, my custom adco and jtac uppers are so far beyond my shooting skill as is, I couldn't justify the larue. I'd only be buying it to support larue. Which I can do by buying mounts that I actually need! |
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hey blitz, your mags are upside down. it can't be easy to load them from the pouches with the rounds facing up? can it?
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That's what I've heard, but I haven't had any trouble with them that way. I was going to try it the other way around at the next range session.
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A member in a PA hunting club im in is a Union County NJ Swat Officer and he brought his vest and gear up to PA this weekend. He has 2 MP5 mags in his vest that had the bullets facing down with the curve of the mag in the same direction of your body curve. If you were to have the bullets facing UP and also have it with the curve of the body the same as the mags the bullets would be backwards and you cant TWIST your hand around fast enough to get them in the gun compared to having them upside down.
Not sure if thats understandable but thats a good enough reason for me not to have the bullets facing up |
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Couldn't think of anything when i paid for a membership to write in here so I just wrote this which says nothing.
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I've never seen a P7 with wood grips. Looks great.
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Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Originally Posted By JBlitzen:
New pics time. Still no pistol permit news. http://home.roadrunner.com/~jrichman/images/ak_2009_04.jpg What kind of mount are using there, for the light? my guess:1" loopy QRP? |
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Originally Posted By totalabuse:
Originally Posted By LoganSackett:
I've never seen a P7 with wood grips. Looks great. Oh yeah. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/totalabuse/Picture123.jpg the jubilee model's grips are so tempting, they almost make me forget the burns I get from using the P7! stock pics: wallpaper size |
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Originally Posted By totalabuse:
Originally Posted By LoganSackett:
I've never seen a P7 with wood grips. Looks great. Oh yeah. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/totalabuse/Picture123.jpg Nice rig! |
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Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
Originally Posted By totalabuse:
Originally Posted By LoganSackett:
I've never seen a P7 with wood grips. Looks great. Oh yeah. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/totalabuse/Picture123.jpg the jubilee model's grips are so tempting, they almost make me forget the burns I get from using the P7! stock pics: http://lundestudio.com/photos/p7m8-jubilee-left.jpg wallpaper size http://lundestudio.com/wallpaper/p7m8-jubilee-left-full-hi.jpg That my friend is fucking hot, i love it |
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Originally Posted By Adirondack47:
Originally Posted By totalabuse:
Originally Posted By LoganSackett:
I've never seen a P7 with wood grips. Looks great. Oh yeah. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/totalabuse/Picture123.jpg Nice rig! Thank you! Chapper, man up or get a M8. |
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Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
Originally Posted By totalabuse:
Originally Posted By LoganSackett:
I've never seen a P7 with wood grips. Looks great. Oh yeah. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/totalabuse/Picture123.jpg the jubilee model's grips are so tempting, they almost make me forget the burns I get from using the P7! stock pics: http://lundestudio.com/photos/p7m8-jubilee-left.jpg wallpaper size http://lundestudio.com/wallpaper/p7m8-jubilee-left-full-hi.jpg IF ONLY HK would make firearms like that now. |
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Originally Posted By mjsemtex:
Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
Originally Posted By totalabuse:
Originally Posted By LoganSackett:
I've never seen a P7 with wood grips. Looks great. Oh yeah. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/totalabuse/Picture123.jpg the jubilee model's grips are so tempting, they almost make me forget the burns I get from using the P7! stock pics: http://lundestudio.com/photos/p7m8-jubilee-left.jpg wallpaper size http://lundestudio.com/wallpaper/p7m8-jubilee-left-full-hi.jpg IF ONLY HK would make firearms like that now. +1. do they even realize how big a p7m,7 would be here? they have to know, right? |
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Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
+1. do they even realize how big a p7m,7 would be here? they have to know, right? IIRC they just couldn't get it to work. Damn, I'd love to have one of them. |
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Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Originally Posted By JBlitzen:
New pics time. Still no pistol permit news. http://home.roadrunner.com/~jrichman/images/ak_2009_04.jpg What kind of mount are using there, for the light? my guess:1" loopy QRP? 1" loopy QRW. Bolted a short rail section to the forearm. Kinda dremel school of gunsmithing, but it's solid and works fine. I tried a three rail forearm once, and found it pretty uncomfortable without a VFG. And I don't like VFG's. I used the other QRW mount in the set for the light on the AR. Thinking about getting another set for the Beretta and 870, but I haven't figured out what to do with the 870. Might do the same thing, bolt a rail to the forearm. (Those are beautiful P7 grips above) |
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Originally Posted By JBlitzen:
Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Originally Posted By JBlitzen:
New pics time. Still no pistol permit news. http://home.roadrunner.com/~jrichman/images/ak_2009_04.jpg What kind of mount are using there, for the light? my guess:1" loopy QRP? 1" loopy QRW. Bolted a short rail section to the forearm. Kinda dremel school of gunsmithing, but it's solid and works fine. I tried a three rail forearm once, and found it pretty uncomfortable without a VFG. And I don't like VFG's. I used the other QRW mount in the set for the light on the AR. Thinking about getting another set for the Beretta and 870, but I haven't figured out what to do with the 870. Might do the same thing, bolt a rail to the forearm. (Those are beautiful P7 grips above) Thanks for the info. I've never seen a light mounted like that on an AK. Looks good. |
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Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Silver Bear ammo? could be brass with a bad reflection, possibly from his blue shirt |
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Some advice for you my friend, when you assemble that for the first time, do it inside of a plastic bag or something of the sort
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Originally Posted By ZEROTHOMAS:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Silver Bear ammo? could be brass with a bad reflection, possibly from his blue shirt Nope, it is indeed Silverbear. Some old stuff from 2-3 years ago at least. Figured I would shoot up the last few boxes I had on hand, being its near impossible to collect the casings at that range being they eject into a grassy hillside. Just pinking |
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Originally Posted By ZEROTHOMAS:
Some advice for you my friend, when you assemble that for the first time, do it inside of a plastic bag or something of the sort Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully my LPK will be dropped off this afternoon, and I can take a stab at assembling it tonight. I watched the video that is linked in the "Build it yourself" sticky. It seems pretty straight forward. Let's hope I don't muck it up. Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Originally Posted By ZEROTHOMAS:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Silver Bear ammo? could be brass with a bad reflection, possibly from his blue shirt Nope, it is indeed Silverbear. Some old stuff from 2-3 years ago at least. Figured I would shoot up the last few boxes I had on hand, being its near impossible to collect the casings at that range being they eject into a grassy hillside. Just pinking How did it perform? I'm assuming it's fine for plinking, huh? I'd like to pick up some Brown Bear .223 for fun-gunning, and am thinking it's not too different from Silver Bear. (Or I could be wrong, and Silver vs. Brown has a bigger difference than I'm assuming) |
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Originally Posted By totalabuse:
Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
+1. do they even realize how big a p7m,7 would be here? they have to know, right? IIRC they just couldn't get it to work. Damn, I'd love to have one of them. even if they'd do something in the style of the USP or P30 with nice wooden grips ala some of the sig models. (anyway, sorry to get off-topic here) |
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Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Originally Posted By ZEROTHOMAS:
Some advice for you my friend, when you assemble that for the first time, do it inside of a plastic bag or something of the sort Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully my LPK will be dropped off this afternoon, and I can take a stab at assembling it tonight. I watched the video that is linked in the "Build it yourself" sticky. It seems pretty straight forward. Let's hope I don't muck it up. Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Originally Posted By ZEROTHOMAS:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Silver Bear ammo? could be brass with a bad reflection, possibly from his blue shirt Nope, it is indeed Silverbear. Some old stuff from 2-3 years ago at least. Figured I would shoot up the last few boxes I had on hand, being its near impossible to collect the casings at that range being they eject into a grassy hillside. Just pinking How did it perform? I'm assuming it's fine for plinking, huh? I'd like to pick up some Brown Bear .223 for fun-gunning, and am thinking it's not too different from Silver Bear. (Or I could be wrong, and Silver vs. Brown has a bigger difference than I'm assuming) shot just fine, zero failures, accurate enough too. Brown bear...silver bear... I never noticed a difference in any of the line to be honest. Cheaper the better really. |
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Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Brown bear...silver bear... I never noticed a difference in any of the line to be honest. Cheaper the better really. sliver bear is zinc plated steel case and brown bear is lacquered steel case. |
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Originally Posted By totalabuse:
Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
..........a p7m,7..... ....... IIRC they just couldn't get it to work.[img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies ....... did not know that. |
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Originally Posted By mjsemtex:
Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Brown bear...silver bear... I never noticed a difference in any of the line to be honest. Cheaper the better really. sliver bear is zinc plated steel case and brown bear is lacquered steel case. o I know the difference, I am saying performance wise...its negligible to me. |
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Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Originally Posted By mjsemtex:
sliver bear is zinc plated steel case and brown bear is lacquered steel case. o I know the difference, I am saying performance wise...its negligible to me. right... sorry. i should've figured that was common knowledge. anyway, i've often wondered if the silver bear would be slightly better as most people seem to bitch about the lacquered steel case wolf, brown bear, etc. leaving residue in the chamber when things start to get really hot. |
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Originally Posted By mjsemtex:
Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Originally Posted By mjsemtex:
sliver bear is zinc plated steel case and brown bear is lacquered steel case. o I know the difference, I am saying performance wise...its negligible to me. right... sorry. i should've figured that was common knowledge. anyway, i've often wondered if the silver bear would be slightly better as most people seem to bitch about the lacquered steel case wolf, brown bear, etc. leaving residue in the chamber when things start to get really hot. other advantage is over time the zinc doesnt really rust like regular steel does, and doesnt really oxidize similarly. Wolf ammo hasnt been lacquered case in awhile, lately its been poly coated stuff. Old Wolf was lacquer. THAT stuff gunked up AR-15s mighty well. But even that old junk was just fine in AKs and other platforms. |
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Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Originally Posted By mjsemtex:
Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Originally Posted By mjsemtex:
sliver bear is zinc plated steel case and brown bear is lacquered steel case. o I know the difference, I am saying performance wise...its negligible to me. right... sorry. i should've figured that was common knowledge. anyway, i've often wondered if the silver bear would be slightly better as most people seem to bitch about the lacquered steel case wolf, brown bear, etc. leaving residue in the chamber when things start to get really hot. other advantage is over time the zinc doesnt really rust like regular steel does, and doesnt really oxidize similarly. Wolf ammo hasnt been lacquered case in awhile, lately its been poly coated stuff. Old Wolf was lacquer. THAT stuff gunked up AR-15s mighty well. But even that old junk was just fine in AKs and other platforms. Sadly people still think Wolf has that thick lacquer and use it as an excuse to bash it and not buy it due to their elitism, so they buy expensive brass shit that does nothing more than Wolf can do. Obviously some brass shit will be more accurate but for what im using it for (mindless blasting), i can care less. It hasnt damaged my ARs in anyway more than brass would have as far as i can tell. People claim it to be dirty...well you have to clean you shit anyway right? Silver bear though ive used quite a few times and find it to be somewhat more accurate than wolf. |
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I thought it was more of a problem with steel on steel chamber wear using the various steel case ammo in stead of brass. Maybe is just urban mith.
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The Box-O-Truth tested this, and concluded that problems arise, and cases get stuck when you shoot Wolf steel cased ammo, and THEN brass cased ammo.....without cleaning in between. It's from the carbon build up in the chamber, not the lacquer.
"What's happening here is that the steel Wolf cases aren't expanding enough to form a good seal when fired, so some of the (dirty, carbon-filled) gasses are getting between the case and the chamber, causing a build up of carbon in the chamber that is far in excess of normal. Then, firing a brass case that DOES expand fully will result in that case being "glued" into the chamber by the carbon buildup.
It actually looks to me like the SA brass is BRITTLE, not too soft. Soft brass will be deformed at the case rim where the extractor pulled through it, while hard, brittle brass will just have that section of the rim broken off. Likely, neither ammo would be a problem on its own, but mixing them is clearly bad news." http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu18.htm So in short, shoot all the steel cased ammo you want............just be sure to give the chamber a douching before putting brass cased ammo through it. |
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Originally Posted By Eljay:
I thought it was more of a problem with steel on steel chamber wear using the various steel case ammo in stead of brass. Maybe is just urban mith. AKs were designed to use steal cased stuff...so its a non-issue even in general concerning any gun. IMHO... |
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Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
The Box-O-Truth tested this, and concluded that problems arise, and cases get stuck when you shoot Wolf steel cased ammo, and THEN brass cased ammo.....without cleaning in between. It's from the carbon build up in the chamber, not the lacquer. "What's happening here is that the steel Wolf cases aren't expanding enough to form a good seal when fired, so some of the (dirty, carbon-filled) gasses are getting between the case and the chamber, causing a build up of carbon in the chamber that is far in excess of normal. Then, firing a brass case that DOES expand fully will result in that case being "glued" into the chamber by the carbon buildup.
It actually looks to me like the SA brass is BRITTLE, not too soft. Soft brass will be deformed at the case rim where the extractor pulled through it, while hard, brittle brass will just have that section of the rim broken off. Likely, neither ammo would be a problem on its own, but mixing them is clearly bad news." http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu18.htm So in short, shoot all the steel cased ammo you want............just be sure to give the chamber a douching before putting brass cased ammo through it. if you shoot enough of it even a steel wolf case can get stuck in the chamber...others on here will vouch for this as they were there. I'm not bashing as I shoot the stuff all the time but just stating that it can and does happen, last time it was with an '08 lot # YMMV. |
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Originally Posted By evileyeswatchin:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
The Box-O-Truth tested this, and concluded that problems arise, and cases get stuck when you shoot Wolf steel cased ammo, and THEN brass cased ammo.....without cleaning in between. It's from the carbon build up in the chamber, not the lacquer. "What's happening here is that the steel Wolf cases aren't expanding enough to form a good seal when fired, so some of the (dirty, carbon-filled) gasses are getting between the case and the chamber, causing a build up of carbon in the chamber that is far in excess of normal. Then, firing a brass case that DOES expand fully will result in that case being "glued" into the chamber by the carbon buildup.
It actually looks to me like the SA brass is BRITTLE, not too soft. Soft brass will be deformed at the case rim where the extractor pulled through it, while hard, brittle brass will just have that section of the rim broken off. Likely, neither ammo would be a problem on its own, but mixing them is clearly bad news." http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu18.htm So in short, shoot all the steel cased ammo you want............just be sure to give the chamber a douching before putting brass cased ammo through it. if you shoot enough of it even a steel wolf case can get stuck in the chamber...others on here will vouch for this as they were there. I'm not bashing as I shoot the stuff all the time but just stating that it can and does happen, last time it was with an '08 lot # YMMV. Good to know. I've only shot brass cased through my AR's as of now. But am looking to get some "cheap" (nothing's actually cheap, nowadays) steel cased for plinking. My, my, my........we've went pretty far off topic for a picture thread. I just finished installing a Stag LPK in my new Mega lower. I'd post pictures of it, but my girl took our camera out for her "girls night out". I'll try to get some up tomorrow. All in all, it was a WHOLE lot easier than I thought it was going to be. I almost feel like buying another lower, just to do it again. |
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Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
The Box-O-Truth tested this, and concluded that problems arise, and cases get stuck when you shoot Wolf steel cased ammo, and THEN brass cased ammo.....without cleaning in between. It's from the carbon build up in the chamber, not the lacquer. "What's happening here is that the steel Wolf cases aren't expanding enough to form a good seal when fired, so some of the (dirty, carbon-filled) gasses are getting between the case and the chamber, causing a build up of carbon in the chamber that is far in excess of normal. Then, firing a brass case that DOES expand fully will result in that case being "glued" into the chamber by the carbon buildup.
It actually looks to me like the SA brass is BRITTLE, not too soft. Soft brass will be deformed at the case rim where the extractor pulled through it, while hard, brittle brass will just have that section of the rim broken off. Likely, neither ammo would be a problem on its own, but mixing them is clearly bad news." http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu18.htm So in short, shoot all the steel cased ammo you want............just be sure to give the chamber a douching before putting brass cased ammo through it. I came to this conclusion myself once after shooting a ton of wolf, not cleaning and then shooting brass the next day. Some of the shells were stuck in there pretty damn good, i had to break out the cleaning rod to push them out. Never again what a pain in the ass |
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Originally Posted By Dieter122:
ok ...one of my first ARs... (sold this one) preban Colt, slapped on some old triangle handguards... http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Dieter122/rd.jpg and now an artsy pic I took of some gear ive got... http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Dieter122/gpre.jpg my RPKs I bought last summer.....they were $400-$425 each SHIPPED... those were the days. Now their $600-700+ ive seen http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Dieter122/rpkz2.jpg Does that RPK in the back with dark red furniture have a milled receiver? Looks nice. |
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Originally Posted By Dieter122:
and now an artsy pic I took of some gear ive got... http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Dieter122/gpre.jpg That is an awesome photo. And I am kicking myself for not buying one of those AES-10B's when they were $399 |
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