Posted: 8/27/2016 3:51:57 PM EDT
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Gets so hot in the garage even in milder weather like today. The house is new and the garage finished but in the attic above there is no insulation unlike the rest of the house. Wondering if blowing in a couple feet over that garage space (like what's over the rest of the living space) would help moderate temps in there. Impossible to knock around in the garage because it's so hot. Might keep it a littler warmer in the winter too but that's hardly a problem in Fort Worth. Thanks |
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Hey gang, Gets so hot in the garage even in milder weather like today. The house is new and the garage finished but in the attic above there is no insulation unlike the rest of the house. Wondering if blowing in a couple feet over that garage space (like what's over the rest of the living space) would help moderate temps in there. Impossible to knock around in the garage because it's so hot. Might keep it a littler warmer in the winter too but that's hardly a problem in Fort Worth. Thanks I think it would, having some insulation in the garage door or having one of the new fancy insulated doors would help. 
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I think it would, having some insulation in the garage door or having one of the new fancy insulated doors would help. Quoted:
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Hey gang, Gets so hot in the garage even in milder weather like today. The house is new and the garage finished but in the attic above there is no insulation unlike the rest of the house. Wondering if blowing in a couple feet over that garage space (like what's over the rest of the living space) would help moderate temps in there. Impossible to knock around in the garage because it's so hot. Might keep it a littler warmer in the winter too but that's hardly a problem in Fort Worth. Thanks I think it would, having some insulation in the garage door or having one of the new fancy insulated doors would help. My last house had foam installed over the garage. As long as you didn't park a hot car in it it did help a little. But once you park 1 or 2 cars with a hot engine it made it hotter in the summer. It did help a bunch in the winter in my opinion. |
| I put insulation in the attack above the garage, put in an insulated door, and put insulation in the exterior walls of the garage...most homes don't have that. I have a window unit and it keeps the garage cool as long as the wifey doesn't pull in when she gets home. |
| I insulated mine myself. It would get crazy hot in there. I just bought the 4' long sections and put it in myself. Made a huge difference in the temp. No matter the outside temp it doesn't go over 80. Like others have said a hot car will heat it up too. Well worth the time and money. |
Our house was built in 76. They did not insulate the ceiling of the garage. The bedroom over part of the garage is much hotter and colder that the other rooms on the second floor. We don't go up there much anymore, but WTF. They did insulate the outside wall, and the shared walls with the rest of the interior. 
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One last question if no one minds. My finished garage is below the master bedroom at my place. Needless to say, the bedroom is hot in the summer and cold in the winter. Does anyone know of a product that you can just tack to the ceiling in the garage to better keep out the heat & cold from getting to the upstairs bedroom?
I don't want to do any deconstruction work, just tack or nail some type of insulation. Was thinking about adding a false ceiling then insulating above that but that is above my current physical capabilities, would have to hire that done. My garage door is an insulated one and then insulated over the top of that but it doesn't seem to help much |
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One last question if no one minds. My finished garage is below the master bedroom at my place. Needless to say, the bedroom is hot in the summer and cold in the winter. Does anyone know of a product that you can just tack to the ceiling in the garage to better keep out the heat & cold from getting to the upstairs bedroom? I don't want to do any deconstruction work, just tack or nail some type of insulation. Was thinking about adding a false ceiling then insulating above that but that is above my current physical capabilities, would have to hire that done. My garage door is an insulated one and then insulated over the top of that but it doesn't seem to help much There are contractors that claim they can foam inject without removing sheetrock, and give you the best available insulation rating that lives. I have my doubts that they actually apply their product where they say they do. Screw on panels can work if their "R" rating is not BS. Garage door insert panels work well. I have been there for a before-after situation. Who knows. If there is nothing but drywall and siding between you and the outside, it is probably not good. |
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I was told by a insulation company NOT to insulate of my attic above the attached garage because of moister. Every time you open the garage door you let in a large amount of high humidity air. Over time it will cause the ceiling to bow and then fall. How long of a time they would not say. The told me they would be happy to sell it to me but I would not be happy down the road.
I now have a house built in 2013 with an attached garage. It has a insulated door but no insulation in the attic above it. So, there must be something to that. EAS was the company we used to blow in some insulation in our old house and they were the one that told me not to do the garage space. http://www.efficientattic.com/ |
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While I was doing satellite installs many years ago, I came across multiple houses with a partial second floor where the only places insulated were areas you could easily reach from the decked areas. The entire breakfast nook, part of the kitchen, and family room were not insulated at all on one of them. You could not see it unless you walked out on the joists around the corners of second floor rooms from a walk in attic door. These were $500,000 + houses built by major players in the home building gig.
Be careful, but walk your attic as much as you safely can to make sure there is insulation where it needs to be. Same thing under the house on a pier & beam. Don't do this while you are at home alone. 
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While I was doing satellite installs many years ago, I came across multiple houses with a partial second floor where the only places insulated were areas you could easily reach from the decked areas. The entire breakfast nook, part of the kitchen, and family room were not insulated at all on one of them. You could not see it unless you walked out on the joists around the corners of second floor rooms from a walk in attic door. These were $500,000 + houses built by major players in the home building gig. Be careful, but walk your attic as much as you safely can to make sure there is insulation where it needs to be. Same thing under the house on a pier & beam. Don't do this while you are at home alone. I would be willing to guess that 95% or more of the contractors out there are lazy, incompetent or crooks. This is why you see issues like you mentioned above. It does not matter the price of the house. This is why you have to inspect everything and always assume it was not done correctley. Hell I walked into a house one time and the guys putting in the tiles for the shower were using mastic directly on dry wall. The new home owner was going to have a nice looking bathroom until the new home waranty was up. Contractors know buyers only care about what something looks like. If it's pretty then if gets sold. The hell with what's behind the walls. |
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I was told by a insulation company NOT to insulate of my attic above the attached garage because of moister. Every time you open the garage door you let in a large amount of high humidity air. Over time it will cause the ceiling to bow and then fall. How long of a time they would not say. The told me they would be happy to sell it to me but I would not be happy down the road. I now have a house built in 2013 with an attached garage. It has a insulated door but no insulation in the attic above it. So, there must be something to that. I have never heard that. I have been in hundreds of attics over garages. I honestly can't remember a single non insulated attic over a garage. I do vividly remember having to swim through insulation to get to headers or eaves over more than one d-mark on the sides of houses that were on an outside wall of the garage. Makes me itch just thinking about it. Some of those garages were air conditioned though. |
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I would be willing to guess that 95% or more of the contractors out there are lazy, incompetent or crooks. This is why you see issues like you mentioned above. It does not matter the price of the house. This is why you have to inspect everything and always assume it was not done correctley. Hell I walked into a house one time and the guys putting in the tiles for the shower were using mastic directly on dry wall. The new home owner was going to have a nice looking bathroom until the new home waranty was up. Contractors know buyers only care about what something looks like. If it's pretty then if gets sold. The hell with what's behind the walls. Quoted:
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While I was doing satellite installs many years ago, I came across multiple houses with a partial second floor where the only places insulated were areas you could easily reach from the decked areas. The entire breakfast nook, part of the kitchen, and family room were not insulated at all on one of them. You could not see it unless you walked out on the joists around the corners of second floor rooms from a walk in attic door. These were $500,000 + houses built by major players in the home building gig. Be careful, but walk your attic as much as you safely can to make sure there is insulation where it needs to be. Same thing under the house on a pier & beam. Don't do this while you are at home alone. I would be willing to guess that 95% or more of the contractors out there are lazy, incompetent or crooks. This is why you see issues like you mentioned above. It does not matter the price of the house. This is why you have to inspect everything and always assume it was not done correctley. Hell I walked into a house one time and the guys putting in the tiles for the shower were using mastic directly on dry wall. The new home owner was going to have a nice looking bathroom until the new home waranty was up. Contractors know buyers only care about what something looks like. If it's pretty then if gets sold. The hell with what's behind the walls. That falls on the superintendent of the job IMO. They are supposed to inspect and verify every aspect of a build. Most soups at the $500K price point do a good job, but there is always a slacker out there that rarely visits a house if they don't have a home owner up their ass every morning. |
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There are contractors that claim they can foam inject without removing sheetrock, and give you the best available insulation rating that lives. I have my doubts that they actually apply their product where they say they do. Screw on panels can work if their "R" rating is not BS. Garage door insert panels work well. I have been there for a before-after situation. Who knows. If there is nothing but drywall and siding between you and the outside, it is probably not good. Quoted:
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One last question if no one minds. My finished garage is below the master bedroom at my place. Needless to say, the bedroom is hot in the summer and cold in the winter. Does anyone know of a product that you can just tack to the ceiling in the garage to better keep out the heat & cold from getting to the upstairs bedroom? I don't want to do any deconstruction work, just tack or nail some type of insulation. Was thinking about adding a false ceiling then insulating above that but that is above my current physical capabilities, would have to hire that done. My garage door is an insulated one and then insulated over the top of that but it doesn't seem to help much There are contractors that claim they can foam inject without removing sheetrock, and give you the best available insulation rating that lives. I have my doubts that they actually apply their product where they say they do. Screw on panels can work if their "R" rating is not BS. Garage door insert panels work well. I have been there for a before-after situation. Who knows. If there is nothing but drywall and siding between you and the outside, it is probably not good. My mother had to add insulation to her house built in the early 60s. They used blow in recycled newspaper treated with I think borax. They made small holes in between the studs then patched over them. It might be an option. |
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I added rolls of the pink stuff to mine, 15" by 25foot rolls. Thought I had a good deal at $5 a roll until I figured out joists were 24" on center, plus dragging them around and into place has a hassle, so I cut them to fit. Cut down on the heat immensely.
Added some radiant barrier to the existing garage door, cut to length and let friction keep it in place. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Reflectix-24-in-x-25-ft-Double-Reflective-Insulation-with-Staple-Tab-ST24025/100020855 |
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I'm in the same boat.
My house is about a year old (just moved in a few weeks ago), and I noticed there's no insulation over the ceiling in the garage. It's a finished garage (drywall, tape, mud, texture, paint). The home inspector used a thermal camera, and additionally noticed that there was no insulation on the outside wall (it's an attached garage and covered by the house on 2 sides). Thanks, DR Horton. I guess. 
Anyhoo, an insulated garage door is a no-brainer (I had one in Ohio because winter - they're not expensive). For the uninsulated wall, I'll probably look into either blow-in or maybe even foam. Anything to avoid tearing the drywall off. I HATE doing drywall. 
For the ceiling (the most important part), I'll probably just blow a shit ton of the same stuff they used for the rest of the house on top of it. When you're up in the attic, you can see where they just nailed OSB up vertically to hold the insulation in over the rest of the house, leaving the garage ceiling bare. It would have literally taken minutes to just blow the rest over the garage, but I digress...
I don't have a window in the garage anywhere (or even an outside door), so I'll have to get creative with the AC. I was thinking about maybe one of those portable units with a hose to vent to the outside (and just punch a hole for it somewhere). I dunno yet. |
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Added some radiant barrier to the existing garage door, cut to length and let friction keep it in place. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Reflectix-24-in-x-25-ft-Double-Reflective-Insulation-with-Staple-Tab-ST24025/100020855 I'll be adding this to my garage door. My wife and I are trying to keep the garage tolerable as that's where we set up our gym when we moved in several months ago. We've got a small window AC that we run in there but it still gets brutally hot in there. Lifting iron in 90+ degree temps is not much fun. Semper Fi |
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I'm in the same boat. My house is about a year old (just moved in a few weeks ago), and I noticed there's no insulation over the ceiling in the garage. It's a finished garage (drywall, tape, mud, texture, paint). The home inspector used a thermal camera, and additionally noticed that there was no insulation on the outside wall (it's an attached garage and covered by the house on 2 sides). Thanks, DR Horton. I guess.
Anyhoo, an insulated garage door is a no-brainer (I had one in Ohio because winter - they're not expensive). For the uninsulated wall, I'll probably look into either blow-in or maybe even foam. Anything to avoid tearing the drywall off. I HATE doing drywall.
For the ceiling (the most important part), I'll probably just blow a shit ton of the same stuff they used for the rest of the house on top of it. When you're up in the attic, you can see where they just nailed OSB up vertically to hold the insulation in over the rest of the house, leaving the garage ceiling bare. It would have literally taken minutes to just blow the rest over the garage, but I digress...
I don't have a window in the garage anywhere (or even an outside door), so I'll have to get creative with the AC. I was thinking about maybe one of those portable units with a hose to vent to the outside (and just punch a hole for it somewhere). I dunno yet. DR Horton was open to a few gimmies with the home owners I dealt with. Could have just been a superintendent having a good day though. Interior attic pull downs should be insulated as well. They can use that thin stiff yellow stuff that makes you itch just looking at it. There is a zippered attic pull down seal available that supposedly prevents heat, cold, bugs and other critters from entering the house from the attic hatch. They are a hassle to use, but look like a tight seal. |
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I'll be adding this to my garage door. My wife and I are trying to keep the garage tolerable as that's where we set up our gym when we moved in several months ago. We've got a small window AC that we run in there but it still gets brutally hot in there. Lifting iron in 90+ degree temps is not much fun. Semper Fi Quoted:
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Added some radiant barrier to the existing garage door, cut to length and let friction keep it in place. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Reflectix-24-in-x-25-ft-Double-Reflective-Insulation-with-Staple-Tab-ST24025/100020855 I'll be adding this to my garage door. My wife and I are trying to keep the garage tolerable as that's where we set up our gym when we moved in several months ago. We've got a small window AC that we run in there but it still gets brutally hot in there. Lifting iron in 90+ degree temps is not much fun. Semper Fi I added that exact same stuff to my already insulated garage door. I can't really tell a difference. My problem is that my garage is totally finished and my bedroom is right above it so I guess there is only a foot or two between the garage ceiling and my bedroom floor - no access at all. I have no idea if there is insulation in that space or not and if there is - is that bad? I also don't know if tacking the reflective insulator to the ceiling would make a difference in the bedroom or if it would trap moisture. I kind of doubt it during the summer, it's well over a hundred in there. Maybe I'll have an insulation company take a look or call a couple. |
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I'll be ordering this soon.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Garage-Door-Insulation-Kit-8-Pieces-Garage-Door-Insulation-Kit-8-pcs/203630159 |
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Most counties in Texas assess property tax by air conditioned/heated square footage. If they notice you have stuck a window AC unit on the side of your garage they will add that to your tax bill. The same goes for storage buildings.
I live in Pflugerville and the assessors will drive around and look for these tells and also use Google ground level maps to bring in extra dollars. Also, if you piss off your neighbors, they can rat you out. 
Edit to add: I bought some 4' x 8' x 3/4" pink foam boards from Home Depot, cut them to fit in the panels of my garage door, and used the minimally expanding spray foam (the kind for windows, so you do not warp your door) to give a good fit. My door faces south and the foam helps a little with the searing heat. I do not heat/cool the garage, but in the summer it was like a pizza oven before insulation. |
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I'll be ordering this soon. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Garage-Door-Insulation-Kit-8-Pieces-Garage-Door-Insulation-Kit-8-pcs/203630159 For that price, you can buy the large foam pieces at Home Depot and cut to size yourself, such as: http://www.homedepot.com/p/R-Matte-Rmax-Plus-3-1-2-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-R-3-2-Polyisocyanurate-Rigid-Foam-Insulation-Board-754404/100572981 |
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For that price, you can buy the large foam pieces at Home Depot and cut to size yourself, such as: http://www.homedepot.com/p/R-Matte-Rmax-Plus-3-1-2-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-R-3-2-Polyisocyanurate-Rigid-Foam-Insulation-Board-754404/100572981 Quoted:
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I'll be ordering this soon. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Garage-Door-Insulation-Kit-8-Pieces-Garage-Door-Insulation-Kit-8-pcs/203630159 For that price, you can buy the large foam pieces at Home Depot and cut to size yourself, such as: http://www.homedepot.com/p/R-Matte-Rmax-Plus-3-1-2-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-R-3-2-Polyisocyanurate-Rigid-Foam-Insulation-Board-754404/100572981 Is it white on one side? Does it bend easily? Is it as lightweight so as not to have to adjust springs? I'll certainly look into that, it would be considerably cheaper. |
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Is it white on one side? Does it bend easily? Is it as lightweight so as not to have to adjust springs? I'll certainly look into that, it would be considerably cheaper. Quoted:
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I'll be ordering this soon. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Garage-Door-Insulation-Kit-8-Pieces-Garage-Door-Insulation-Kit-8-pcs/203630159 For that price, you can buy the large foam pieces at Home Depot and cut to size yourself, such as: http://www.homedepot.com/p/R-Matte-Rmax-Plus-3-1-2-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-R-3-2-Polyisocyanurate-Rigid-Foam-Insulation-Board-754404/100572981 Is it white on one side? Does it bend easily? Is it as lightweight so as not to have to adjust springs? I'll certainly look into that, it would be considerably cheaper. They are foil on both sides. Bend? What are you trying to bend it around? A sheet the size of plywood weights roughly 7lbs. ETA: Or were you referring to the insulation "kit"? |
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Is it white on one side? Does it bend easily? Is it as lightweight so as not to have to adjust springs? I'll certainly look into that, it would be considerably cheaper. This is what I used. Pink, but can be painted, bends easily to fit in the door panels, and I did not need to adjust the springs. |