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8/1/2014 5:38:12 PM EDT
Hi Gang,

Any members of HTF on Dallas PD? Contemplating testing since my business has started to become more efficient. I was wondering if I could do a ride along to check it out. If you would prefer to PM or email me instead of replying publicly, please do.

-Guy
8/2/2014 7:38:29 AM EDT
[#1]
Unless your desperate, I would avoid Dallas PD at all cost. There are way better agencies out there.
8/2/2014 7:59:07 AM EDT
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PM sent
8/2/2014 8:33:10 AM EDT
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Having served in small, medium sized, and large departments, I would suggest you pick a large city or sheriffs dept. Look at the big cities and counties and compare pay/benefits/retirement.

Dallas  or FT Worth
Austin Police
San Antonio Police. Bexar Co So
Houston Police. Harris Co So

And the counties those cities are in are a good start.

Go somewhere that has civil service if you can.  Small PD/SO can be very political. Meaning you can be the golden child for a couple of years and get crossways 1 time and then your looking for a job. Nearly happened to me, but my lawyers were meaner than theirs. So take it from me, go to a LARGE agency.
8/2/2014 8:43:30 AM EDT
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Having served in small, medium sized, and large departments, I would suggest you pick a large city or sheriffs dept. Look at the big cities and counties and compare pay/benefits/retirement.

Dallas  or FT Worth
Austin Police
San Antonio Police. Bexar Co So
Houston Police. Harris Co So

And the counties those cities are in are a good start.

Go somewhere that has civil service if you can.  Small PD/SO can be very political. Meaning you can be the golden child for a couple of years and get crossways 1 time and then your looking for a job. Nearly happened to me, but my lawyers were meaner than theirs. So take it from me, go to a LARGE agency.
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great advice. Thank you!
8/2/2014 9:13:37 AM EDT
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Having served in small, medium sized, and large departments, I would suggest you pick a large city or sheriffs dept. Look at the big cities and counties and compare pay/benefits/retirement.

Dallas  or FT Worth
Austin Police
San Antonio Police. Bexar Co So
Houston Police. Harris Co So

And the counties those cities are in are a good start.

Go somewhere that has civil service if you can.  Small PD/SO can be very political. Meaning you can be the golden child for a couple of years and get crossways 1 time and then your looking for a job. Nearly happened to me, but my lawyers were meaner than theirs. So take it from me, go to a LARGE agency.
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This. I work for a agency of about 100 officers. It's political like crazy. Last year we had a group of Muslims complain we were racial profiling them. We treated them no different from other races/religion. What came out of the complaint? Mandatory Muslim sensitivity training for the entire department.

Right now, I'm currently looking elsewhere....in a larger agency.
8/2/2014 10:27:08 AM EDT
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This. I work for a agency of about 100 officers. It's political like crazy. Last year we had a group of Muslims complain we were racial profiling them. We treated them no different from other races/religion. What came out of the complaint? Mandatory Muslim sensitivity training for the entire department.

Right now, I'm currently looking elsewhere....in a larger agency.
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Having served in small, medium sized, and large departments, I would suggest you pick a large city or sheriffs dept. Look at the big cities and counties and compare pay/benefits/retirement.

Dallas  or FT Worth
Austin Police
San Antonio Police. Bexar Co So
Houston Police. Harris Co So

And the counties those cities are in are a good start.

Go somewhere that has civil service if you can.  Small PD/SO can be very political. Meaning you can be the golden child for a couple of years and get crossways 1 time and then your looking for a job. Nearly happened to me, but my lawyers were meaner than theirs. So take it from me, go to a LARGE agency.


This. I work for a agency of about 100 officers. It's political like crazy. Last year we had a group of Muslims complain we were racial profiling them. We treated them no different from other races/religion. What came out of the complaint? Mandatory Muslim sensitivity training for the entire department.

Right now, I'm currently looking elsewhere....in a larger agency.


It would be a shame if y'all were insensitive about that. I could think of so many ways they would regret complaining. Good thing I'm not a cop.
8/2/2014 10:30:31 AM EDT
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If I were young, I'd say fuck it and go to Dallas. Request Pleasant Grove or SOC, evenings, weekends,etc. you will be in the shit.
8/2/2014 10:59:45 AM EDT
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Lot's of politics with that agency.

Like has been stated, better ones in that.
8/2/2014 12:42:54 PM EDT
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This. I work for a agency of about 100 officers. It's political like crazy. Last year we had a group of Muslims complain we were racial profiling them. We treated them no different from other races/religion. What came out of the complaint? Mandatory Muslim sensitivity training for the entire department.

Right now, I'm currently looking elsewhere....in a larger agency.
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You should've told me.  I would've provided pulled pork sammiches for lunch for those in attendance.  
8/2/2014 2:43:40 PM EDT
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Avoid politics, apply at Dallas. El oh fucking el.

You need to evaluate each agency by something more than size.

If I were to work for a big city PD up here, it would be Fort Worth.
8/2/2014 2:45:01 PM EDT
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DT
8/2/2014 2:55:25 PM EDT
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No way.
8/2/2014 8:32:31 PM EDT
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This. I work for a agency of about 100 officers. It's political like crazy. Last year we had a group of Muslims complain we were racial profiling them. We treated them no different from other races/religion. What came out of the complaint? Mandatory Muslim sensitivity training for the entire department.

Right now, I'm currently looking elsewhere....in a larger agency.
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Having served in small, medium sized, and large departments, I would suggest you pick a large city or sheriffs dept. Look at the big cities and counties and compare pay/benefits/retirement.

Dallas  or FT Worth
Austin Police
San Antonio Police. Bexar Co So
Houston Police. Harris Co So

And the counties those cities are in are a good start.

Go somewhere that has civil service if you can.  Small PD/SO can be very political. Meaning you can be the golden child for a couple of years and get crossways 1 time and then your looking for a job. Nearly happened to me, but my lawyers were meaner than theirs. So take it from me, go to a LARGE agency.


This. I work for a agency of about 100 officers. It's political like crazy. Last year we had a group of Muslims complain we were racial profiling them. We treated them no different from other races/religion. What came out of the complaint? Mandatory Muslim sensitivity training for the entire department.

Right now, I'm currently looking elsewhere....in a larger agency.


Yup. Go big. Better to be a number. Better to have civil service.

My agency is low on people and we have 5500 last I heard.

Agency sizes by # of officers, in my opinion:

1-99 Small
99-499 medium
500-999 large
1000+ massive.
8/2/2014 11:07:46 PM EDT
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I know people that work for just about every agency in Dallas, Tarrant,  Denton and Collin counties. Right now the happiest Officers work for Grand Prairie PD.

8/3/2014 4:14:45 AM EDT
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I know people that work for just about every agency in Dallas, Tarrant,  Denton and Collin counties. Right now the happiest Officers work for Grand Prairie PD.

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I have heard this as well. Guys in Irving PD are happy as well.
8/3/2014 5:29:26 AM EDT
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The Garland guys have a very active and developed SWAT and EOD team as well.

Down in the Austin area we have some fantastic departments -

Travis County SO
Round Rock PD
Hays County SO


All pretty much medium size departments..
8/3/2014 8:50:42 AM EDT
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Hi Gang,

Any members of HTF on Dallas PD? Contemplating testing since my business has started to become more efficient. I was wondering if I could do a ride along to check it out. If you would prefer to PM or email me instead of replying publicly, please do.

-Guy
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Retired from there two years ago.  Look elsewhere
8/3/2014 2:04:05 PM EDT
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Thanks for all the input! I have been searching and I am looking at Fort Worth PD also. Plano also looks good.
8/3/2014 3:10:18 PM EDT
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Be a Firefighter, work two days a week and still have plenty of time to handle your side business.
8/3/2014 4:00:10 PM EDT
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And everyone will love you! You'll always get raises and a bad ass retirement...
8/3/2014 4:26:06 PM EDT
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It all depends on what you are wanting to do.  There are things you can do at the large agencies that you will never be able to do at the medium sized PDs.  You want to be full time mounted?  You want aviation or full time bikes?  Those are mostly going to be larger agencies.  If you want decent pay and usually better quality coworkers, go with the medium sized suburbs.  Civil service is a dual edged sword.  Good for keeping your job if you make someone mad, but it allows the retention of sub par coworkers/supervisors.  In the DFW area, GP has probably the best morale.  Good luck.

8/4/2014 12:38:17 PM EDT
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Alot of younger officers are saying sayofuckingnara to DPD and moving on. Some of the burbs, Collin Co. SO, etc.,. are paying much better, with higher morale.
Most Officers I know have summed-up DPD as pretty much a clusterfuck for some time now.
8/4/2014 12:58:03 PM EDT
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Alot of younger officers are saying sayofuckingnara to DPD and moving on. Some of the burbs, Collin Co. SO, etc.,. are paying much better, with higher morale.
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Isn't the tactic to do the DPD police academy and then leave DPD ASAP?
8/4/2014 5:15:40 PM EDT
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Have several friends on DPD....

Very political department, that has  ALOT of leadership issues..

They advertise on the radio and on billboards along the highways in Dallas for recruits
They also go out of state and have lucrative relocating incentives as well for officers to transfer
8/5/2014 6:01:10 AM EDT
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My best friend after some political FUBAR just said screw you DPD and resigned 3 weeks ago and got a oil field job making twice what he was making.
8/5/2014 6:59:13 AM EDT
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I'm out of the loop these days, but at one time this was a good job to land.  The bonus was getting both LE and FF Credentials.

DFW Airport Public Safety Officer