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6/27/2014 9:17:52 PM EDT
Dude I work with got popped for 70 in a 50 in a construction zone.

In the violations section, it listed:

Citation violation #1 Speeding blah blah blah
Citation violation #2 Failure to provide proof of financial responsibility
Citation violation #3 Expired inspection

My question:  Am I reading this right in that he actually received THREE tickets?

Not here to argue the merits, cuz frankly that's a righteous bust
6/27/2014 10:58:41 PM EDT
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Where was this at so I don't go there
6/27/2014 11:05:42 PM EDT
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Hurst, TX (mid-cities area of DFW).
6/27/2014 11:10:16 PM EDT
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#2 has me



Is it automatic, and he has to prove he was insured at the time, or what?
6/27/2014 11:10:34 PM EDT
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Hurst, TX (mid-cities area of DFW).
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Hurst, TX (mid-cities area of DFW).


No shit I live in Hurst I didn't know they put that BS up one more reason not to get on that F up hwy
6/28/2014 12:34:15 AM EDT
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Is it automatic, and he has to prove he was insured at the time, or what?
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He does not have insurance.

I'm surprised they didn't tow the car.

Dude is an Iraqi, and I think his attitude/way of talking got him the treatment.
6/28/2014 3:05:46 AM EDT
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Looks like 3 to me. He must have talked himself into those.
6/28/2014 4:24:06 AM EDT
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Thats 3 separate citations. That FMFR will be pricy, +/- $400.
6/28/2014 4:47:54 AM EDT
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Probably cheaper than the cost of insurance
6/28/2014 6:24:44 AM EDT
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OP, that is three citations/violations.

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Probably cheaper than the cost of insurance


Until they also suspend his license.
6/28/2014 6:43:06 AM EDT
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He does not have insurance.



I'm surprised they didn't tow the car.



Dude is an Iraqi, and I think his attitude/way of talking got him the treatment.

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Is it automatic, and he has to prove he was insured at the time, or what?




He does not have insurance.



I'm surprised they didn't tow the car.



Dude is an Iraqi, and I think his attitude/way of talking got him the treatment.

So he was actually pulled over by an officer?

 



Thought it was a ticket that was mailed to you like a light camera ticket.




My bad.






6/28/2014 6:57:46 AM EDT
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Yes, he was pulled over by an officer.
6/28/2014 7:32:34 AM EDT
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It's one ticket with three citations / violations on it.

ETA:  And your coworker is a douchebag for not having insurance.  Those are the shitbags that make our insurance rates skyrocket when they get in an accident.
6/28/2014 7:48:15 AM EDT
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I was going to cut him a lot of slack, until he said he's been in the US for five years.

You are 100% correct.
6/28/2014 3:08:12 PM EDT
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And the surcharges if he keeps it up....
6/28/2014 5:45:26 PM EDT
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Fuck him. I just got hit by a uninsured driver yesterday. They should premantly revoke your DL for that shit.
6/29/2014 7:16:38 AM EDT
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The liability insurance that most people get is one way to prove financial responsibility. There are other ways, like posting a bond.



I know of a guy who recently received 6 tickets in one stop.



 
6/29/2014 8:31:10 AM EDT
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I agree about the dooshay baggery . But think the insurance companies salivate at the chance to  " just put the head in" while pointing the finger at everyone else. Insurance companies are right in line with the IRS as far as I'm concerned.  They spend millions upon millions on advertising with cartoon lizards, freak show women and mimes  every few seconds on tv and radio. To the point of annoyance. But then when you ask them why your rates are increasing and you have no tickets, no wrecks, etc and your vehicle decreases in value with mileage and year model,they tell you some horse shit like that?
   If you use that line of thinking then it's just as plausible to blame the government and law enforcement for not enforcing The law,and deporting illegals when caught ,much less when arrested for DWI or not having insurance or DL. This isn't LE bashing either just a different way of viewing a much larger problem that has more than just the insurance companies perspective......
6/29/2014 9:05:10 AM EDT
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I agree about the dooshay baggery . But think the insurance companies salivate at the chance to  " just put the head in" while pointing the finger at everyone else. Insurance companies are right in line with the IRS as far as I'm concerned.  They spend millions upon millions on advertising with cartoon lizards, freak show women and mimes  every few seconds on tv and radio. To the point of annoyance. But then when you ask them why your rates are increasing and you have no tickets, no wrecks, etc and your vehicle decreases in value with mileage and year model,they tell you some horse shit like that?
   If you use that line of thinking then it's just as plausible to blame the government and law enforcement for not enforcing The law,and deporting illegals when caught ,much less when arrested for DWI or not having insurance or DL. This isn't LE bashing either just a different way of viewing a much larger problem that has more than just the insurance companies perspective......
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It's one ticket with three citations / violations on it.

ETA:  And your coworker is a douchebag for not having insurance.  Those are the shitbags that make our insurance rates skyrocket when they get in an accident.


I agree about the dooshay baggery . But think the insurance companies salivate at the chance to  " just put the head in" while pointing the finger at everyone else. Insurance companies are right in line with the IRS as far as I'm concerned.  They spend millions upon millions on advertising with cartoon lizards, freak show women and mimes  every few seconds on tv and radio. To the point of annoyance. But then when you ask them why your rates are increasing and you have no tickets, no wrecks, etc and your vehicle decreases in value with mileage and year model,they tell you some horse shit like that?
   If you use that line of thinking then it's just as plausible to blame the government and law enforcement for not enforcing The law,and deporting illegals when caught ,much less when arrested for DWI or not having insurance or DL. This isn't LE bashing either just a different way of viewing a much larger problem that has more than just the insurance companies perspective......


Insurance companies exist to make money.  The cost of paying claims is spread out among all customers.  It is not horse shit.  

And I don't think you understand how they work, or how LE works.  You local cop cannot deport anyone.
6/29/2014 10:25:28 AM EDT
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Insurance companies exist to make money.  The cost of paying claims is spread out among all customers.  It is not horse shit.  

And I don't think you understand how they work, or how LE works.  You local cop cannot deport anyone.
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It's one ticket with three citations / violations on it.

ETA:  And your coworker is a douchebag for not having insurance.  Those are the shitbags that make our insurance rates skyrocket when they get in an accident.


I agree about the dooshay baggery . But think the insurance companies salivate at the chance to  " just put the head in" while pointing the finger at everyone else. Insurance companies are right in line with the IRS as far as I'm concerned.  They spend millions upon millions on advertising with cartoon lizards, freak show women and mimes  every few seconds on tv and radio. To the point of annoyance. But then when you ask them why your rates are increasing and you have no tickets, no wrecks, etc and your vehicle decreases in value with mileage and year model,they tell you some horse shit like that?
   If you use that line of thinking then it's just as plausible to blame the government and law enforcement for not enforcing The law,and deporting illegals when caught ,much less when arrested for DWI or not having insurance or DL. This isn't LE bashing either just a different way of viewing a much larger problem that has more than just the insurance companies perspective......


Insurance companies exist to make money.  The cost of paying claims is spread out among all customers.  It is not horse shit.  

And I don't think you understand how they work, or how LE works.  You local cop cannot deport anyone.


I didn't mean to offend you with my opinion.  However I think everyone understands we are all forced into funding a private for profit corporation, with a powerful lobby  You are correct in the fact that I do not even pretend to understand LE or government. I bet,if the they only had more funding it would get better? I know what they are doing in no way reflects an oath to the constitution. Your local cop can detain anyone and question his or her immigration status but the officer only takes orders or follows policy which dictates  the handling of a detainee. But does not always reflect the law.I am simply stating it is a problem that is bigger than just drivers without insurance. Please explain your position to me and I may agree with your greater understanding of the situation. As stated in the previous post I am not bashing LE. I am in no way capable or worthy of being an officer. I think everyone can benefit from standing in each others shoes once in a while.
6/29/2014 11:34:35 AM EDT
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Won't make a difference.  They'll still drive anyway, and when they get stopped again, they'll most likely just get another ticket and another suspension unless the officer desires to take 'em to jail.  The way DLs are set up now, there can be a list of 20 freakin' active suspensions on it... FMFR, DWLI, No DL, Surcharge Due, Mandatory Suspension, etc, etc...  They may even have a few of the same in a row all with different effective/expiration dates.  Doesn't matter, they'll still be out there amongst us on the streets.
6/29/2014 12:02:31 PM EDT
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Won't make a difference.  They'll still drive anyway, and when they get stopped again, they'll most likely just get another ticket and another suspension unless the officer desires to take 'em to jail.  The way DLs are set up now, there can be a list of 20 freakin' active suspensions on it... FMFR, DWLI, No DL, Surcharge Due, Mandatory Suspension, etc, etc...  They may even have a few of the same in a row all with different effective/expiration dates.  Doesn't matter, they'll still be out there amongst us on the streets.
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Won't make a difference.  They'll still drive anyway, and when they get stopped again, they'll most likely just get another ticket and another suspension unless the officer desires to take 'em to jail.  The way DLs are set up now, there can be a list of 20 freakin' active suspensions on it... FMFR, DWLI, No DL, Surcharge Due, Mandatory Suspension, etc, etc...  They may even have a few of the same in a row all with different effective/expiration dates.  Doesn't matter, they'll still be out there amongst us on the streets.


That's part of my point. The insurance companies will take money from illegals and be even happier for it with all the tickets etc they can charge them more. They are not concerned about if you have a license, just a check.Si habla dollar. Others that are to blame are people like APD chief avocado who aspires to be a political officer and cater to personal agenda through cherry picking what laws make him look good. I feel sorry for the officers under him.
6/29/2014 12:10:35 PM EDT
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No tiene licensia

No tiene seguro

No viaje la coche
6/29/2014 12:23:40 PM EDT
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No shit I live in Hurst I didn't know they put that BS up one more reason not to get on that F up hwy
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Hurst, TX (mid-cities area of DFW).


No shit I live in Hurst I didn't know they put that BS up one more reason not to get on that F up hwy



Written by a person in a car, not a speed camera
6/29/2014 2:13:20 PM EDT
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I didn't mean to offend you with my opinion.  However I think everyone understands we are all forced into funding a private for profit corporation, with a powerful lobby  You are correct in the fact that I do not even pretend to understand LE or government. I bet,if the they only had more funding it would get better? I know what they are doing in no way reflects an oath to the constitution. Your local cop can detain anyone and question his or her immigration status but the officer only takes orders or follows policy which dictates  the handling of a detainee. But does not always reflect the law.I am simply stating it is a problem that is bigger than just drivers without insurance. Please explain your position to me and I may agree with your greater understanding of the situation. As stated in the previous post I am not bashing LE. I am in no way capable or worthy of being an officer. I think everyone can benefit from standing in each others shoes once in a while.
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It's one ticket with three citations / violations on it.

ETA:  And your coworker is a douchebag for not having insurance.  Those are the shitbags that make our insurance rates skyrocket when they get in an accident.


I agree about the dooshay baggery . But think the insurance companies salivate at the chance to  " just put the head in" while pointing the finger at everyone else. Insurance companies are right in line with the IRS as far as I'm concerned.  They spend millions upon millions on advertising with cartoon lizards, freak show women and mimes  every few seconds on tv and radio. To the point of annoyance. But then when you ask them why your rates are increasing and you have no tickets, no wrecks, etc and your vehicle decreases in value with mileage and year model,they tell you some horse shit like that?
   If you use that line of thinking then it's just as plausible to blame the government and law enforcement for not enforcing The law,and deporting illegals when caught ,much less when arrested for DWI or not having insurance or DL. This isn't LE bashing either just a different way of viewing a much larger problem that has more than just the insurance companies perspective......


Insurance companies exist to make money.  The cost of paying claims is spread out among all customers.  It is not horse shit.  

And I don't think you understand how they work, or how LE works.  You local cop cannot deport anyone.


I didn't mean to offend you with my opinion.  However I think everyone understands we are all forced into funding a private for profit corporation, with a powerful lobby  You are correct in the fact that I do not even pretend to understand LE or government. I bet,if the they only had more funding it would get better? I know what they are doing in no way reflects an oath to the constitution. Your local cop can detain anyone and question his or her immigration status but the officer only takes orders or follows policy which dictates  the handling of a detainee. But does not always reflect the law.I am simply stating it is a problem that is bigger than just drivers without insurance. Please explain your position to me and I may agree with your greater understanding of the situation. As stated in the previous post I am not bashing LE. I am in no way capable or worthy of being an officer. I think everyone can benefit from standing in each others shoes once in a while.


No federal officers in Texas hqve no jurisdiction or authority over immigration.  They cannot act on a person's immigration status alone.  

Other than liability insurance, which is the piece that protects others from you, how are you forced into "funding a private corporation"?
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No federal officers in Texas hqve no jurisdiction or authority over immigration.  They cannot act on a person's immigration status alone.  

Other than liability insurance, which is the piece that protects others from you, how are you forced into "funding a private corporation"?
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It's one ticket with three citations / violations on it.

ETA:  And your coworker is a douchebag for not having insurance.  Those are the shitbags that make our insurance rates skyrocket when they get in an accident.


I agree about the dooshay baggery . But think the insurance companies salivate at the chance to  " just put the head in" while pointing the finger at everyone else. Insurance companies are right in line with the IRS as far as I'm concerned.  They spend millions upon millions on advertising with cartoon lizards, freak show women and mimes  every few seconds on tv and radio. To the point of annoyance. But then when you ask them why your rates are increasing and you have no tickets, no wrecks, etc and your vehicle decreases in value with mileage and year model,they tell you some horse shit like that?
   If you use that line of thinking then it's just as plausible to blame the government and law enforcement for not enforcing The law,and deporting illegals when caught ,much less when arrested for DWI or not having insurance or DL. This isn't LE bashing either just a different way of viewing a much larger problem that has more than just the insurance companies perspective......


Insurance companies exist to make money.  The cost of paying claims is spread out among all customers.  It is not horse shit.  

And I don't think you understand how they work, or how LE works.  You local cop cannot deport anyone.


I didn't mean to offend you with my opinion.  However I think everyone understands we are all forced into funding a private for profit corporation, with a powerful lobby  You are correct in the fact that I do not even pretend to understand LE or government. I bet,if the they only had more funding it would get better? I know what they are doing in no way reflects an oath to the constitution. Your local cop can detain anyone and question his or her immigration status but the officer only takes orders or follows policy which dictates  the handling of a detainee. But does not always reflect the law.I am simply stating it is a problem that is bigger than just drivers without insurance. Please explain your position to me and I may agree with your greater understanding of the situation. As stated in the previous post I am not bashing LE. I am in no way capable or worthy of being an officer. I think everyone can benefit from standing in each others shoes once in a while.


No federal officers in Texas hqve no jurisdiction or authority over immigration.  They cannot act on a person's immigration status alone.  

Other than liability insurance, which is the piece that protects others from you, how are you forced into "funding a private corporation"?


I never stated federal officers, only officers or LE. Which I guess means I should use another not so generic term. I am forced into doing business with them or posting a bond which is the law, if I am correct? So if I am to abide by the law I must comply with the above or get cited, arrested, fined or what not. Regardless, I do abide and have insurance. It is just a point of contention with me about selective enforcement. Because this affects my policy rate according to them. I personally feel like I'm being gouged by the insurance companies. I personally called my insurance company a couple of months ago and asked them to explain to me how if the value of my vehicles decreases with age and mileage and I have no claims tickets etc then why do my rates increase? I went from person to person with NO explanation.  That is legitimate horse shit in my book. I really don't mind the concept of being responsible but being punished for others irresponsible conduct and actions  irritates me. I'm sure it does you too. In closing I just personally feel like I'm being gouged on policy rates and the whole uninsured driver situation is an excuse especially when they of all people support illegal immigration. Why do they not have to prove all of their customers are here on legal terms like ever other business had to about employees? I mean it could actually be a good tool for law enforcement.
6/29/2014 6:37:21 PM EDT
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Dude I work with got popped for 70 in a 50 in a construction zone.

In the violations section, it listed:

Citation violation #1 Speeding blah blah blah
Citation violation #2 Failure to provide proof of financial responsibility
Citation violation #3 Expired inspection

My question:  Am I reading this right in that he actually received THREE tickets?

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I've got a 1 and 3 before, and yes it was two tickets that I had to pay at the same time. I knew I was speeding but I didn't know the inspection was expired.