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9/27/2013 9:38:37 PM EDT
Would that be considered multiple firearm purchase per ATF?
9/27/2013 9:40:56 PM EDT
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nope, I do It all the time with my FFL.  my last purchase was 5x lowers.  all written on one 4473, no additional paperwork, walked out the door receivers in hand.
9/27/2013 10:06:17 PM EDT
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nope, I do It all the time with my FFL.  my last purchase was 5x lowers.  all written on one 4473, no additional paperwork, walked out the door receivers in hand.
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Sorry, I should be clearer. I know it's on one 4473. What I was asking was, would the dealer have to report the purchase to the ATF, as recently ruled, because TX is one of the border states?
9/27/2013 10:17:17 PM EDT
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Sorry, I should be clearer. I know it's on one 4473. What I was asking was, would the dealer have to report the purchase to the ATF, as recently ruled, because TX is one of the border states?
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nope, I do It all the time with my FFL.  my last purchase was 5x lowers.  all written on one 4473, no additional paperwork, walked out the door receivers in hand.

Sorry, I should be clearer. I know it's on one 4473. What I was asking was, would the dealer have to report the purchase to the ATF, as recently ruled, because TX is one of the border states?


as I said in the previous post, no additional paperwork beyond the 4473.

per the ATF's rulings, receivers are neither handguns nor long guns.  therefore they are not subject to "multi gun" purchase forms.
9/27/2013 10:24:00 PM EDT
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I bought two handguns from a store last month. Don't know if they submitted it to the ATF, but I sure as hell didn't complete any additional paperwork.

Back in 2008, when I had an FFL transfer two stripped lowers to me, he did require me to fill out an additional form for the multiple purchase thing. YMMV
9/27/2013 10:28:24 PM EDT
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I bought two handguns from a store last month. Don't know if they submitted it to the ATF, but I sure as hell didn't complete any additional paperwork.

Back in 2008, when I had an FFL transfer two stripped lowers to me, he did require me to fill out an additional form for the multiple purchase thing. YMMV
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things have either changed since 2008, or your FFL sucked.  my last purchase was 5 lower receivers june 14th of this year.  filled out my 4473, he scanned my DL and CHL, and I left.  nothing more.
9/28/2013 12:31:53 AM EDT
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things have either changed since 2008, or your FFL sucked.  my last purchase was 5 lower receivers june 14th of this year.  filled out my 4473, he scanned my DL and CHL, and I left.  nothing more.
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I bought two handguns from a store last month. Don't know if they submitted it to the ATF, but I sure as hell didn't complete any additional paperwork.

Back in 2008, when I had an FFL transfer two stripped lowers to me, he did require me to fill out an additional form for the multiple purchase thing. YMMV


things have either changed since 2008, or your FFL sucked.  my last purchase was 5 lower receivers june 14th of this year.  filled out my 4473, he scanned my DL and CHL, and I left.  nothing more.


I have had the same experience this Jan. multi purchase, 4473 "OTHER" and done.
9/28/2013 5:35:03 AM EDT
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I have had the same experience this Jan. multi purchase, 4473 "OTHER" and done.
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I bought two handguns from a store last month. Don't know if they submitted it to the ATF, but I sure as hell didn't complete any additional paperwork.

Back in 2008, when I had an FFL transfer two stripped lowers to me, he did require me to fill out an additional form for the multiple purchase thing. YMMV


things have either changed since 2008, or your FFL sucked.  my last purchase was 5 lower receivers june 14th of this year.  filled out my 4473, he scanned my DL and CHL, and I left.  nothing more.


I have had the same experience this Jan. multi purchase, 4473 "OTHER" and done.



receivers are not held to the multiple handgun/long gun purchase report ILLEGALY Mandated by Obama's AF&E.
9/28/2013 6:10:20 AM EDT
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I just picked up 3 lowers last week from my FFL. No additional paperwork needed.
9/28/2013 6:33:30 AM EDT
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The multiple reporting requirement only affects hand guns and semi auto rifles.  Since lowers are 'other' classification they do not fall within the reporting requirements.  I have heard of dealers doing a multi for lowers, however that is likely because the dealer doesn't understand the requirement and/or that lowers are NOT considered long guns.
9/28/2013 8:48:19 AM EDT
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Does "Other" mean both complete and stripped lowers, or just stripped lowers? Thanks.
9/28/2013 9:11:49 AM EDT
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The definition of long gun includes the barrel, so no.  A lower is a lower until it is combined with a barrel at which point it becomes a long gun.
9/28/2013 10:03:39 AM EDT
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receivers are not held to the multiple handgun/long gun purchase report ILLEGALY Mandated by Obama's AF&E.
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Not exactly.
The requirement for dealers to report multiple sales of handguns is Federal law. At the time of passage Congress could have easily included long guns, but chose not to do so.

The requirement for dealers in the four border states to report multiple sales of certain rifles (not "long guns") has no Federal law to back it up. The OMB believes it has the authority to do so as a Federal regulation.

So far Federal judges have agreed.