Posted: 12/15/2012 6:07:06 AM EDT
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I can't imagine the pain and grief that the families of the children slain in the recent school shooting must be feeling. A sick, godless animal, kills his own mother and turns his weapons on gods innocent creatures. How did this sick animal allude detection, I don't think he did. He was bred into a culture where society panders to the certifiably crazy, lets them roam the streets, because they have rights. I'm old, but I remember knowing that when I was young, people were institutionalized to protect themselves and others. Now the ACLU would say we've violating their rights in some manner.
We live in a culture where senseless violence is glorified. Holly Wood churns it out and mocks values that have any base. These same people who strive to change this counties core value system are the same ones that are making money on the vile junk they turn out and out wordily protest. Long gone is the John Wayne, who fought for right and justice, he has been replaced by the award winning Natural Bore Killers. I feel bad that something that I own could have been used in such a way, but I have no illusions that any number of things could have replaced the gun. When you breed animals like this in a country that is loosing it's sole, should we really be surprised. |
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As a society, we think if we control guns, then we are safe to allow murders, rapists, terrorists, nutjobs, etc roam freely. After all, the Brady Law will prevent them from getting guns and we are safe. After McVeigh, Atta, you would have thought we would have learned gun control is a failed strategy and we have to focus on the criminals, but no, we doubled-down on stupid. I myself will never understand the logic of catch and release. |
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... How did this sick animal allude detection... He alluded detection by being a product of today's society. People like that shooter leave a trail behind them that anyone could identify. The problem is that all the "identifiers" are socially accepted behavior. That "sick animal" fits right in with today's pop culture. |
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At one of my campuses yesterday, I walked in as a teacher was eating lunch. She had the live newsfeed pulled up on her laptop. (She has her CHL as do dozens of teachers in my district). Her question was "why can't we carry in school?.....who can protect us if we can't carry in school?". 
But the second you mention allowing teachers to carry in school, even some on this forum will voice their opposition. Heck the Texas legislature doesn't even allow me to have a firearm in my car in the parking lot. A teacher with a gun may not have stopped the nutjob in Conn, but I would bet they would appreciated the option. |
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All those kids and adults lost thier lives so some defective pile could vent his inner child. Now, honest citizens will surely suffer for what this guy did by the loss of freedom and the casting of guilt on those who did no wrong.
By the way, while the country watched the big massacre story yesterday, something over 3000 souls were aborted in this country. We put armed guards in bingo halls and strip clubs. Maybe we ought to do the same for schools. Maybe look at the Israeli model. |
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Quoted: <------Teacher At one of my campuses yesterday, I walked in as a teacher was eating lunch. She had the live newsfeed pulled up on her laptop. (She has her CHL as do dozens of teachers in my district). Her question was "why can't we carry in school?.....who can protect us if we can't carry in school?". But the second you mention allowing teachers to carry in school, even some on this forum will voice their opposition. Heck the Texas legislature doesn't even allow me to have a firearm in my car in the parking lot. A teacher with a gun may not have stopped the nutjob in Conn, but I would bet they would appreciated the option. I'm of the opinion that there are enough current CCW folks who would have a major deterent effect on these crazy bastards...if we stop the insane 'Gun Free Zone' horseshit. All they do, GFZs, is provide a target rich environment for these cocksuckers. The only people who abide 'gun free zones' are law abiding citizens...those same citizens who could stop or lessen one of these attacks. Why are there no mass shooting events in a Police Station lobby? Because people there will return fire! Hard to methodically murder innocent people when somebody is shooting back. The solution to this insanity is crystal clear to me....abolish 'Gun Free Zones'. |
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The end result of yesterday's shooting should be the arming of America's teachers,
not more gun control laws. Where's the NRA and pro-gun politicians that should be pushing this idea? It's time to fight back. Gun owners are going to have to get involved on this one. Start making phone calls and sending e-mails to members of congress. |
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The end result of yesterday's shooting should be the arming of America's teachers, not more gun control laws. Where's the NRA and pro-gun politicians that should be pushing this idea? It's time to fight back. Gun owners are going to have to get involved on this one. Start making phone calls and sending e-mails to members of congress. Congress? Sorry, allowing teachers to carry on campus has zero chance of getting past Mr Obama. I think we would even have trouble getting such a law in front of Rick Perry. |
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The end result of yesterday's shooting should be the arming of America's teachers, not more gun control laws. Where's the NRA and pro-gun politicians that should be pushing this idea? It's time to fight back. Gun owners are going to have to get involved on this one. Start making phone calls and sending e-mails to members of congress. Congress? Sorry, allowing teachers to carry on campus has zero chance of getting past Mr Obama. I think we would even have trouble getting such a law in front of Rick Perry. That's the defeatist type attitude that will cost us our guns. The government works for us, not the other way around. If enough gun owners demand their rights, then we'll get what we want. If not, we'll vote the bums out of office. With 50% of American households owning guns, we represent a huge voting block that could change things in Washington DC. But, only if we stand up and make our voices heard. Gun owners need to go on the warpath, so to speak. We need to make our voices heard. I truly believe that yesterday's shooting will result in a serious loss of our 2nd amendment rights. And, I truly believe that gun owners will just bend over and take it, without one word of protest. We need to fight back and fight back hard if we want to keep our guns. |
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The end result of yesterday's shooting should be the arming of America's teachers, not more gun control laws. Where's the NRA and pro-gun politicians that should be pushing this idea? It's time to fight back. Gun owners are going to have to get involved on this one. Start making phone calls and sending e-mails to members of congress. Congress? Sorry, allowing teachers to carry on campus has zero chance of getting past Mr Obama. I think we would even have trouble getting such a law in front of Rick Perry. That's the defeatist type attitude that will cost us our guns. The government works for us, not the other way around. If enough gun owners demand their rights, then we'll get what we want. If not, we'll vote the bums out of office. With 50% of American households owning guns, we represent a huge voting block that could change things in Washington DC. But, only if we stand up and make our voices heard. Gun owners need to go on the warpath, so to speak. We need to make our voices heard. I truly believe that yesterday's shooting will result in a serious loss of our 2nd amendment rights. And, I truly believe that gun owners will just bend over and take it, without one word of protest. We need to fight back and fight back hard if we want to keep our guns. No sir, that is him being a realist. The way the country voted in the election is the way the country feels. The majority does not think like us, and never will. All we can do is voice our opinions, and prepare for impact. |
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The end result of yesterday's shooting should be the arming of America's teachers, not more gun control laws. Where's the NRA and pro-gun politicians that should be pushing this idea? It's time to fight back. Gun owners are going to have to get involved on this one. Start making phone calls and sending e-mails to members of congress. Congress? Sorry, allowing teachers to carry on campus has zero chance of getting past Mr Obama. I think we would even have trouble getting such a law in front of Rick Perry. That's the defeatist type attitude that will cost us our guns. The government works for us, not the other way around. If enough gun owners demand their rights, then we'll get what we want. If not, we'll vote the bums out of office. With 50% of American households owning guns, we represent a huge voting block that could change things in Washington DC. But, only if we stand up and make our voices heard. Gun owners need to go on the warpath, so to speak. We need to make our voices heard. I truly believe that yesterday's shooting will result in a serious loss of our 2nd amendment rights. And, I truly believe that gun owners will just bend over and take it, without one word of protest. We need to fight back and fight back hard if we want to keep our guns. No sir, that is him being a realist. The way the country voted in the election is the way the country feels. The majority does not think like us, and never will. All we can do is voice our opinions, and prepare for impact. More defeatism? That's a shame. Sometimes gun owners are they're own worst enemy. We are the majority. We just don't realize it. We need to forget about that last election and start planning to win the next one. We need to quit whining about the direction this country is going, and do something about it. I'm so sick of that "America's over" attitude, and all the doom and gloom defeatism. Whatever happened to that "from my cold dead fingers" attitude? If you want to keep your guns, then you're going to have to fight for them. |
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More defeatism? That's a shame. Sometimes gun owners are they're own worst enemy. We are the majority. We just don't realize it. We need to forget about that last election and start planning to win the next one. We need to quit whining about the direction this country is going, and do something about it. I'm so sick of that "America's over" attitude, and all the doom and gloom defeatism. Whatever happened to that "from my cold dead fingers" attitude? If you want to keep your guns, then you're going to have to fight for them. You call me defeatist? Horseshit. You don't know me or what I've done regarding the right to keep and bear arms. Disagree with me all you want, but nothing I wrote above is anywhere close to being defeatist. So please enlighten us, seriously.........why on God's green earth do you think Obama would sign legislation allowing teachers nationwide to carry a gun? |
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More defeatism? That's a shame. Sometimes gun owners are they're own worst enemy. We are the majority. We just don't realize it. We need to forget about that last election and start planning to win the next one. We need to quit whining about the direction this country is going, and do something about it. I'm so sick of that "America's over" attitude, and all the doom and gloom defeatism. Whatever happened to that "from my cold dead fingers" attitude? If you want to keep your guns, then you're going to have to fight for them. You call me defeatist? Horseshit. You don't know me or what I've done regarding the right to keep and bear arms. Disagree with me all you want, but nothing I wrote above is anywhere close to being defeatist. So please enlighten us, seriously.........why on God's green earth do you think Obama would sign legislation allowing teachers nationwide to carry a gun? We'll never know until we put that legislation in front of him. Again and again, if we have to. Individual states can do it without Obama's permission. He's not a dictator. If you think Texas could actually pull off seceding from the union, then you must think we could do something as simple as arming our teachers. We have to try. That's all I'm saying. If you're not willing to try, then quit posting and let those of us that are willing to try, take it from here. |
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More defeatism? That's a shame. Sometimes gun owners are they're own worst enemy. We are the majority. We just don't realize it. We need to forget about that last election and start planning to win the next one. We need to quit whining about the direction this country is going, and do something about it. I'm so sick of that "America's over" attitude, and all the doom and gloom defeatism. Whatever happened to that "from my cold dead fingers" attitude? If you want to keep your guns, then you're going to have to fight for them. You call me defeatist? Horseshit. You don't know me or what I've done regarding the right to keep and bear arms. Disagree with me all you want, but nothing I wrote above is anywhere close to being defeatist. So please enlighten us, seriously.........why on God's green earth do you think Obama would sign legislation allowing teachers nationwide to carry a gun? We'll never know until we put that legislation in front of him. Horseshit. You havn'tt been paying attention to the last five years have you? Again and again, if we have to. Individual states can do it without Obama's permission. You said Congress, not states He's not a dictator. I agree, but if you think Obama's a champion of the Second Amendment you are naive or a fool If you think Texas could actually pull off seceding from the union, then you must think we could do something as simple as arming our teachers. What the hell does this have to do with seceding? 
I DON'T think Texas can, will or should secede. Find another straw man argument. |
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What are you going to do to fight for your 2nd amendment rights? I've already stated what I intend to do. It's your turn. I sure as hell ain't wasting my time emailing Congress. I'll continue to financially support the TSRA, NRA ILA and Second Amendment Foundation. Emails don't mean shit, $$$$ for lobbying do. |
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can you explain that?
<------Teacher At one of my campuses yesterday, I walked in as a teacher was eating lunch. She had the live newsfeed pulled up on her laptop. (She has her CHL as do dozens of teachers in my district). Her question was "why can't we carry in school?.....who can protect us if we can't carry in school?".
But the second you mention allowing teachers to carry in school, even some on this forum will voice their opposition. Heck the Texas legislature doesn't even allow me to have a firearm in my car in the parking lot. Texas law, penal code section 46.03, allows school districts to allow CHL carry in the schools. The district themselves already have legislative permission. |
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The end result of yesterday's shooting should be the arming of America's teachers, not more gun control laws. Where's the NRA and pro-gun politicians that should be pushing this idea? It's time to fight back. Gun owners are going to have to get involved on this one. Start making phone calls and sending e-mails to members of congress. Congress? Sorry, allowing teachers to carry on campus has zero chance of getting past Mr Obama. I think we would even have trouble getting such a law in front of Rick Perry. Obama has no say. Congress has no say. The Texas legislature has already given permission for school districts to allow concealed carry. |
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Just looking at the photos posted of him, he appears to have some sort of genetic or developmental problems. That is not an excuse for him but an indicator that someone in his family should have been watching him more closely. Right! That guy looks kinda funny. Let's monitor him. WTF does that mean? These kinds of knee-jerk "solutions" are down right stupid. |
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<------Teacher At one of my campuses yesterday, I walked in as a teacher was eating lunch. She had the live newsfeed pulled up on her laptop. (She has her CHL as do dozens of teachers in my district). Her question was "why can't we carry in school?.....who can protect us if we can't carry in school?".
But the second you mention allowing teachers to carry in school, even some on this forum will voice their opposition. Heck the Texas legislature doesn't even allow me to have a firearm in my car in the parking lot. Texas law, penal code section 46.03, allows school districts to allow CHL carry in the schools. The district themselves already have legislative permission. Show me where it says that. |
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Sec. 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):
(1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution; All they have to do is get written permission from the school/district or get it added into the school/district policy. So it is in the hands of the school/district to allow it. |
| Sec. 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):(1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution; |
| I think a viable fix, as mentioned by several is arm teachers who so wish and use retired Police and Military who wish to volunteer their time. I'm not trying to get everyone's panties in a wad at the MIl/LE, but the vetting process would be easier with them as a group and quicker to place and approve. I for one would donate some time in my home town, although my city has the second largest School Resource Program in the country, some grade schools don't have SRO's. |
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<------Teacher At one of my campuses yesterday, I walked in as a teacher was eating lunch. She had the live newsfeed pulled up on her laptop. (She has her CHL as do dozens of teachers in my district). Her question was "why can't we carry in school?.....who can protect us if we can't carry in school?".
But the second you mention allowing teachers to carry in school, even some on this forum will voice their opposition. Heck the Texas legislature doesn't even allow me to have a firearm in my car in the parking lot. Texas law, penal code section 46.03, allows school districts to allow CHL carry in the schools. The district themselves already have legislative permission. Explain what? With one exception (Harrold ISD), every school district in Texas has an HR policy that not only prohibits teachers from carrying, but also prohibits a firearm in your vehicle in the parking lot. The Texas legislature had no qualms about removing school employees from the parking lot bill. I believe Harrold ISD does not allow any and all of their teachers to carry, only those annointed with special permission by the school board. |
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The end result of yesterday's shooting should be the arming of America's teachers, not more gun control laws. Where's the NRA and pro-gun politicians that should be pushing this idea? It's time to fight back. Gun owners are going to have to get involved on this one. Start making phone calls and sending e-mails to members of congress. Congress? Sorry, allowing teachers to carry on campus has zero chance of getting past Mr Obama. I think we would even have trouble getting such a law in front of Rick Perry. Obama has no say. Congress has no say. The Texas legislature has already given permission for school districts to allow concealed carry. Congress most certainly could have a say. His (JBnTX) argument is by pressuring Congress we could get a Federal law passed to allow teacher carry. I think thats as likely as seeing Obama as keynote speaker at the SHOT Show. |
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Well put TJ.
Really, society needs to wake up and smell the shitty dead roses, then the laws/rules/policies will follow. The "blood in the classroom" arguments against teachers packing doesn't hold much water when there already is. eta: This whole thing really sucks  Really hit me when I kissed my little boy goodnight.
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The amount of security needed to defend against such threats is past a point that is viable within any government.
Gun control already had its place and it failed as well. I am scared yes but not worried that they will try something again. However, keeping wack jobs from being wack jobs is an almost impossible thing to do. Our best bet is to do exactly the opposite quit making big issues of these events and airing these morons all over the internet and keep them left out of the news. Why do you think they always happen almost back to back of each other??? They want to go out but they can't muster it up to off themselves being a no one... They have to have their names as something in the books either good or bad it doesn't matter. The biggest issue now is we pad everything for kids. And yes I am a father of 3 under 10 I am tired of going to soccer games where they no longer keep score to keep people feelings in check. I am tired of parents acting like kids themselves. I am also tired of taking god out of everything my kids all go to church as do me and my spouse. We need to have a more ethical society like in the past and learn how to deal with issues at a younger age than 20. |
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<------Teacher At one of my campuses yesterday, I walked in as a teacher was eating lunch. She had the live newsfeed pulled up on her laptop. (She has her CHL as do dozens of teachers in my district). Her question was "why can't we carry in school?.....who can protect us if we can't carry in school?".
But the second you mention allowing teachers to carry in school, even some on this forum will voice their opposition. Heck the Texas legislature doesn't even allow me to have a firearm in my car in the parking lot. Texas law, penal code section 46.03, allows school districts to allow CHL carry in the schools. The district themselves already have legislative permission. Explain what? With one exception (Harrold ISD), every school district in Texas has an HR policy that not only prohibits teachers from carrying, but also prohibits a firearm in your vehicle in the parking lot. The Texas legislature had no qualms about removing school employees from the parking lot bill. I believe Harrold ISD does not allow any and all of their teachers to carry, only those annointed with special permission by the school board. The legislature is not preventing you from from doing anything. It is not unlawful to have a handgun in your vehicle. If your school has a policy, that is the district's responsibility, not the legislatures. And I am curious how you know the policies of 1,265 school districts? |
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The end result of yesterday's shooting should be the arming of America's teachers, not more gun control laws. Where's the NRA and pro-gun politicians that should be pushing this idea? It's time to fight back. Gun owners are going to have to get involved on this one. Start making phone calls and sending e-mails to members of congress. Congress? Sorry, allowing teachers to carry on campus has zero chance of getting past Mr Obama. I think we would even have trouble getting such a law in front of Rick Perry. Obama has no say. Congress has no say. The Texas legislature has already given permission for school districts to allow concealed carry. Congress most certainly could have a say. His (JBnTX) argument is by pressuring Congress we could get a Federal law passed to allow teacher carry. I think thats as likely as seeing Obama as keynote speaker at the SHOT Show. The federal law would not overrule the Texas law. There is already a mechanism in place by the legislature to allow teachers to carry |
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<------Teacher At one of my campuses yesterday, I walked in as a teacher was eating lunch. She had the live newsfeed pulled up on her laptop. (She has her CHL as do dozens of teachers in my district). Her question was "why can't we carry in school?.....who can protect us if we can't carry in school?".
But the second you mention allowing teachers to carry in school, even some on this forum will voice their opposition. Heck the Texas legislature doesn't even allow me to have a firearm in my car in the parking lot. Texas law, penal code section 46.03, allows school districts to allow CHL carry in the schools. The district themselves already have legislative permission. Show me where it says that. Will the responses of Wahnsinn and TXHunter suffice, or do I still need to show it?  
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The end result of yesterday's shooting should be the arming of America's teachers, not more gun control laws. Where's the NRA and pro-gun politicians that should be pushing this idea? It's time to fight back. Gun owners are going to have to get involved on this one. Start making phone calls and sending e-mails to members of congress. Congress? Sorry, allowing teachers to carry on campus has zero chance of getting past Mr Obama. I think we would even have trouble getting such a law in front of Rick Perry. Obama has no say. Congress has no say. The Texas legislature has already given permission for school districts to allow concealed carry. Congress most certainly could have a say. His (JBnTX) argument is by pressuring Congress we could get a Federal law passed to allow teacher carry. I think thats as likely as seeing Obama as keynote speaker at the SHOT Show. The federal law would not overrule the Texas law. There is already a mechanism in place by the legislature to allow teachers to carry I think they are thinking of something like FFDO or LEOUSA, which seems to overrule state law, at least in the few cases I have read about. |
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I can't imagine the pain and grief that the families of the children slain in the recent school shooting must be feeling. A sick, godless animal, kills his own mother and turns his weapons on gods innocent creatures. How did this sick animal allude detection, I don't think he did. He was bred into a culture where society panders to the certifiably crazy, lets them roam the streets, because they have rights. I'm old, but I remember knowing that when I was young, people were institutionalized to protect themselves and others. Now the ACLU would say we've violating their rights in some manner. We live in a culture where senseless violence is glorified. Holly Wood churns it out and mocks values that have any base. These same people who strive to change this counties core value system are the same ones that are making money on the vile junk they turn out and out wordily protest. Long gone is the John Wayne, who fought for right and justice, he has been replaced by the award winning Natural Bore Killers. I feel bad that something that I own could have been used in such a way, but I have no illusions that any number of things could have replaced the gun. When you breed animals like this in a country that is loosing it's sole, should we really be surprised. You are NORMAL. Thats the difference. Feeling bad is normal here. But you aren't guilty of anything. The only Thing I Feel GUILTY about is that I couldn't foresee it and shoot this asshole in the eye on his way in.  However, as I've said a 100 times before, this guy gave plenty of warning signs however everyone failed to do their job, which is protect the innocent.
This guy was a mental patient, or should have been. CT however does not allow officers to force someone to have a psyc' evaluation like Texas does. So the dingbats get to run wild in CT. However, the following IN-ACTION by Connecticut legislatures, and the president of the united states does not help: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-conn-gunman-had-an-altercation-with-school-staff-the-day-before-massacre/ http://www.washingtonguardian.com/washingtons-school-security-failure http://www.theblaze.com/stories/afraid-she-was-losing-him-slain-mother-of-ct-shooter-reportedly-said-son-was-getting-worse-last-week/ |
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We just need to accept a certain number of deaths, although tragic, is an acceptable risk for having the right to keep and bare arms. We do this for other causes of death. Automotive accidents kill over 100 people a day, Alcohol kills over 50 people a day. The risk vs benefits of the personal ownership of firearms is acceptable.
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First let me say how bad i feel for those families.. I have little toddlers myself and just couldnt have imagined someone capable of something as horrific as this...
Now let me also say that this monster did have a problem.. a problem his mother new about as well as his family and others.. could this have been prevented? No one knows for sure.. but had his family gotten him the proper medical/psychological treatment growing up maybe it could have.. Lets say his mom did secure her weapons from him, he doesnt take his meds one day and drives HER car into a school and improvises some other form of mass murder instead... That cliche that so many people here use, "you cant fix stupid".. well guess what, "Gun control cant fix crazy"... There were so many other things wrong with this guy before he committed this tragedy and there are so many others like him walking the streets.. some of them helping themselves, as productive members of society.. others not obviously. |
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Quoted: First let me say how bad i feel for those families.. I have little toddlers myself and just couldnt have imagined someone capable of something as horrific as this... Now let me also say that this monster did have a problem.. a problem his mother new about as well as his family and others.. could this have been prevented? No one knows for sure.. but had his family gotten him the proper medical/psychological treatment growing up maybe it could have.. Lets say his mom did secure her weapons from him, he doesnt take his meds one day and drives HER car into a school and improvises some other form of mass murder instead... That cliche that so many people here use, "you cant fix stupid".. well guess what, "Gun control cant fix crazy"... There were so many other things wrong with this guy before he committed this tragedy and there are so many others like him walking the streets.. some of them helping themselves, as productive members of society.. others not obviously. Where their signs Cain was about to kill Able? Adam and Eve weren't good parent? Evil is evil, it manipulative, deceives etc. We can't punish those that haven't acted and we can't expect murders to have signs over their heads stating "I'm about to kill someone".
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First let me say how bad i feel for those families.. I have little toddlers myself and just couldnt have imagined someone capable of something as horrific as this... Now let me also say that this monster did have a problem.. a problem his mother new about as well as his family and others.. could this have been prevented? No one knows for sure.. but had his family gotten him the proper medical/psychological treatment growing up maybe it could have.. Lets say his mom did secure her weapons from him, he doesnt take his meds one day and drives HER car into a school and improvises some other form of mass murder instead... That cliche that so many people here use, "you cant fix stupid".. well guess what, "Gun control cant fix crazy"... There were so many other things wrong with this guy before he committed this tragedy and there are so many others like him walking the streets.. some of them helping themselves, as productive members of society.. others not obviously. Where their signs Cain was about to kill Able? Adam and Eve weren't good parent? Evil is evil, it manipulative, deceives etc. We can't punish those that haven't acted and we can't expect murders to have signs over their heads stating "I'm about to kill someone". Well lets see, unless jealousy was a sign, probably not. Reading the bible as a chid I understood the story quite well and understood Cain's motive. I actually felt empathy for Cain. I'm not here to pass judgement or seek others to pass judgement. We are all sinners. One of my points was that as a parent we do have a responsibility for our children's well being .. even if it means recognizing our kids arent perfect and limiting their exposure to things that could harm them or things they could use to harm others. My comments above weren't to suggest punishing people with disablilities, so sorry if you misinterpreted that... My point is that Gun Control will could not fix what was wrong with him... In my personal opinion preventing tragedies like this starts within the family |
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I posted this after many hours had passed, the silence was defining in response to it from the Gun Side. We live in a society that panics at what we can't control. You could live in Omaha Nebraska and have a front page article about some guy off the cost of California getting eaten by a shark. Everyone is glued to the networks listening for more information, but let a sixteen year old girl kill a family of five because she was texting on her phone and you won't hear peep.
Maybe 50 people in the world get eaten by sharks, but it scares the shit out of us because we can't do anything about it. This was a shark attack, cold and simple, except the shark was a damaged humane much more violent and far more cunning. Those who panic want a feeling of security, even if its a false one. Logic goes out the window when panic sets in and easiest target now is the tool not the predator. |