Posted: 10/5/2012 9:54:08 AM EDT
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Want to get into the NFA items. Please recommend someone who can start up a trust for me. I talked to the Gun Store and they recommended someone, but the 800 number doesnt ever pick up.
Thanks. -Jay |
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Christopher Bass 214-596-8314
[email protected] He did mine. Outstanding work. He's in the DFW area, but everything can be done with one phone call and a couple of e-mails. |
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Christopher Bass 214-596-8314 [email protected] He did mine. Outstanding work. He's in the DFW area, but everything can be done with one phone call and a couple of e-mails. He did mine as well. Has a special rate for arfcommers. From first phone call to trust-in-hand was about a week. |
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Christopher Bass 214-596-8314 [email protected] He did mine. Outstanding work. He's in the DFW area, but everything can be done with one phone call and a couple of e-mails. He is working on mine at this moment. Sent him the first email yesterday and got a response within 5 minutes. I responded to that email and got another response within 5 minutes. Continued this instant message style of emails a few more times until we agreed on a good time for him to call me. 2 hours later he called me and 15 minutes later I had every question I had covered and a questionnaire emailed to me. Filled out the questionnaire and sent it to him. Made payment over paypal and now I wait. |
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Christopher Bass 214-596-8314 [email protected] He did mine. Outstanding work. He's in the DFW area, but everything can be done with one phone call and a couple of e-mails. THIS. He helped me too. He is also on these forums. |
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Christopher Bass 214-596-8314 [email protected] He did mine. Outstanding work. He's in the DFW area, but everything can be done with one phone call and a couple of e-mails. THIS. He helped me too. He is also on these forums. But so is the above member and I am sure he does a great job as well. Glad to see you were helped out. |
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I need to get this over with too. I have a question though. After I get the trust set up, what is the process when I want to add another item to my NFA collection? The process is basically the same as buying it as an individual. You fill out and submit the Form 4 (or Form 1) in duplicate in the trust name instead of your own, you submit a $200 check, and you send in a photocopy of the trust. No need for fingerprints, passport photos, or cert of compliance. When the approved form comes back you pick it up from your dealer and fill out a 4473 (or build it yourself if Form 1). |
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I need to get this over with too. I have a question though. After I get the trust set up, what is the process when I want to add another item to my NFA collection? The process is basically the same as buying it as an individual. You fill out and submit the Form 4 (or Form 1) in duplicate in the trust name instead of your own, you submit a $200 check, and you send in a photocopy of the trust. No need for fingerprints, passport photos, or cert of compliance. When the approved form comes back you pick it up from your dealer and fill out a 4473 (or build it yourself if Form 1). Okay. I just wanted to make sure I didn't have to do anything with the trust each time. Thanks. |
| Another question related to this - Can I create a trust and then "batch" a bunch of form 1s, basically enough to cover everything I expect to want to build for the forseable future, and then file the approved forms/tax stamps away in the safe and actually build the items at my leisure over a period of years i.e. get the urge to build a supressor, find an unallocated supressor form/tax stamp in the safe and build the item to match? |
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Another question related to this - Can I create a trust and then "batch" a bunch of form 1s, basically enough to cover everything I expect to want to build for the forseable future, and then file the approved forms/tax stamps away in the safe and actually build the items at my leisure over a period of years i.e. get the urge to build a supressor, find an unallocated supressor form/tax stamp in the safe and build the item to match? Well, every Form 1 in that "batch" would require a $200 check, so that would be a hefty "one-time" expense. Plus, if you wanted to convert existing firearms to an SBR/SBS/AOW, you'd need to have those serial numbers on the Form 1's before you sent them in. For suppressors, you need to submit the overall length and caliber on the Form 1, so you'd want to really be sure you knew exactly what you want to build in the future. It would suck to have an approved Form 1 sitting in your file cabinet, then decide a few weeks/months later that you didn't really want to build that 8.5" / .30cal suppresor, for example. I've got a fairly large collection of tax stamps in my vault, but I never submitted a form before I knew exactly what I wanted. It's not fun to send Uncle Sam a check for $200 wait a few months, but it's better than sending TWO checks for $200 and waiting a few months simply because your tastes changed in the meantime. |
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So for this 300.00 fee, do you still have to pay the 200.00 to the ATF? So 500.00 total? Thanks, and sorry for the probably dumb question. $300 to setup the trust, a one time expense. $200 (or $5)? to ATF for each NFA transaction, entirely separate from the trust creation. |
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Another question related to this - Can I create a trust and then "batch" a bunch of form 1s, basically enough to cover everything I expect to want to build for the forseable future, and then file the approved forms/tax stamps away in the safe and actually build the items at my leisure over a period of years i.e. get the urge to build a supressor, find an unallocated supressor form/tax stamp in the safe and build the item to match? Well, every Form 1 in that "batch" would require a $200 check, so that would be a hefty "one-time" expense. Plus, if you wanted to convert existing firearms to an SBR/SBS/AOW, you'd need to have those serial numbers on the Form 1's before you sent them in. For suppressors, you need to submit the overall length and caliber on the Form 1, so you'd want to really be sure you knew exactly what you want to build in the future. It would suck to have an approved Form 1 sitting in your file cabinet, then decide a few weeks/months later that you didn't really want to build that 8.5" / .30cal suppresor, for example. I've got a fairly large collection of tax stamps in my vault, but I never submitted a form before I knew exactly what I wanted. It's not fun to send Uncle Sam a check for $200 wait a few months, but it's better than sending TWO checks for $200 and waiting a few months simply because your tastes changed in the meantime. A hefty one time expense, equivalent to buying a new AR really, and I wouldn't ever bother converting anything existing, it's too easy to machine another new lower. The key thing here being that I'm not any sort of gun collector chasing rare NFA guns, I'm a hobby metalworker / gunsmith so anything I'd be interested in would be something I'm building myself. No interest in FA anyway, too expensive to shoot. |
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So for this 300.00 fee, do you still have to pay the 200.00 to the ATF? So 500.00 total? Thanks, and sorry for the probably dumb question. Yes the tax stamp is $200 per item, that goes to our friend Uncle Sam. You also, of course, have to add the cost of the actual item you are buying/building |
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I currently own one AR-15 and am looking to add a second AR to my collection. If I purchased one suppressor for use, do I need to do do 2 separate forms for each AR or does the initial paperwork cover both firearms as long as they are both of the same caliber and barrel length? |
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Here's another noob question from another noob(me) I currently own one AR-15 and am looking to add a second AR to my collection. If I purchased one suppressor for use, do I need to do do 2 separate forms for each AR or does the initial paperwork cover both firearms as long as they are both of the same caliber and barrel length? The suppressor is the serial numbered item that is on a form 4. It can be used on any weapon that it will fit on. Therefore . . . NO, there is only one form associated with a suppressor no matter how many weapons you use it on. |
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Here's another noob question from another noob(me) I currently own one AR-15 and am looking to add a second AR to my collection. If I purchased one suppressor for use, do I need to do do 2 separate forms for each AR or does the initial paperwork cover both firearms as long as they are both of the same caliber and barrel length? My YHM 556 is used on several uppers ranging from 16" upper to SBR to full auto. |
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Another question related to this - Can I create a trust and then "batch" a bunch of form 1s, basically enough to cover everything I expect to want to build for the forseable future, and then file the approved forms/tax stamps away in the safe and actually build the items at my leisure over a period of years i.e. get the urge to build a supressor, find an unallocated supressor form/tax stamp in the safe and build the item to match? Well, every Form 1 in that "batch" would require a $200 check, so that would be a hefty "one-time" expense. Plus, if you wanted to convert existing firearms to an SBR/SBS/AOW, you'd need to have those serial numbers on the Form 1's before you sent them in. For suppressors, you need to submit the overall length and caliber on the Form 1, so you'd want to really be sure you knew exactly what you want to build in the future. It would suck to have an approved Form 1 sitting in your file cabinet, then decide a few weeks/months later that you didn't really want to build that 8.5" / .30cal suppresor, for example. I've got a fairly large collection of tax stamps in my vault, but I never submitted a form before I knew exactly what I wanted. It's not fun to send Uncle Sam a check for $200 wait a few months, but it's better than sending TWO checks for $200 and waiting a few months simply because your tastes changed in the meantime. A hefty one time expense, equivalent to buying a new AR really... Ah..I see. To me, a "batch" is 20-30...not 3 or 4. Still, I wouldn't send in a Form 1 until I was ready to build. My tastes change too much for me to risk wasting a tax stamp. |
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Another question related to this - Can I create a trust and then "batch" a bunch of form 1s, basically enough to cover everything I expect to want to build for the forseable future, and then file the approved forms/tax stamps away in the safe and actually build the items at my leisure over a period of years i.e. get the urge to build a supressor, find an unallocated supressor form/tax stamp in the safe and build the item to match? Well, every Form 1 in that "batch" would require a $200 check, so that would be a hefty "one-time" expense. Plus, if you wanted to convert existing firearms to an SBR/SBS/AOW, you'd need to have those serial numbers on the Form 1's before you sent them in. For suppressors, you need to submit the overall length and caliber on the Form 1, so you'd want to really be sure you knew exactly what you want to build in the future. It would suck to have an approved Form 1 sitting in your file cabinet, then decide a few weeks/months later that you didn't really want to build that 8.5" / .30cal suppresor, for example. I've got a fairly large collection of tax stamps in my vault, but I never submitted a form before I knew exactly what I wanted. It's not fun to send Uncle Sam a check for $200 wait a few months, but it's better than sending TWO checks for $200 and waiting a few months simply because your tastes changed in the meantime. A hefty one time expense, equivalent to buying a new AR really... Ah..I see. To me, a "batch" is 20-30...not 3 or 4. Still, I wouldn't send in a Form 1 until I was ready to build. My tastes change too much for me to risk wasting a tax stamp. Well, I was thinking more like 8 or so, i.e. a couple $k overall with the trust costs. Something like supressors in .22, 5.56, 7.62, 9 a SBR or two, SBS, or the like. That would give me a decent number of projects for winter weekends or whatever. I don't know, I keep kicking the idea around trying to decide if it's worth the effort vs. just continuing to build non-NFA stuff. |
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Well, I was thinking more like 8 or so, i.e. a couple $k overall with the trust costs. Something like supressors in .22, 5.56, 7.62, 9 a SBR or two, SBS, or the like. That would give me a decent number of projects for winter weekends or whatever. I don't know, I keep kicking the idea around trying to decide if it's worth the effort vs. just continuing to build non-NFA stuff. Well, since each Form 1 has to be fairly detailed (caliber/serial number/overall length/etc), you'd need to really know exactly what you wanted to build ahead of time. But if you know for certain that you'd want to build a 6", .22cal suppressor or cut down one of the rifles/shotguns you have in hand, then I suppose it could be worth getting it all done at one time. |