Posted: 5/21/2012 10:04:32 AM EDT
| I am an OK resident and often carry when I go to TX. I read in the TEXAS CONCEALED HANDGUN LAWS (http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/internetforms/forms/chl-16.pdf) under the HANDGUN PROFICIENCY REQUIREMENT that you "must be able to demonstrate, at a minimum, the degree of proficiency that is required to effectively operate a handgun of .32 caliber or above". Does that mean that you cannot carry anything smaller than a .32? I could not find that anywhere in the law. |
Is that why nobody believes me when I say 'trust me'?
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You can carry a 22 if you want, for proficiency qualifications though you must use a .32 or larger. This. I am an instructor Where would you consider a 5.7 acceptable for your class? Even though it is a glorified 22 round, it is the deadliest round for LEO. |
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You can carry a 22 if you want, for proficiency qualifications though you must use a .32 or larger. This. I am an instructor Where would you consider a 5.7 acceptable for your class? Even though it is a glorified 22 round, it is the deadliest round for LEO. It isn't up to the instructor. State law arbitrarily says you have to use something that is .32 caliber or larger to qualify for CHL. That leads to some silliness because for example, .32 S&W would be acceptable (although it is generally a revolver only round, so you'd not get an unrestricted CHL), even though it is an incredibly weak cartridge. But for counter example, 7.62x25 Tokarev would not be acceptable, even though it is up close to rounds like .357 Mag in power. And I also don't necessarily buy the anti-gunner's over-hyped alarmist rhetoric about 5.7 FN being a "cop killer" cartridge, especially with civilian available bullet choices. |
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You can carry a 22 if you want, for proficiency qualifications though you must use a .32 or larger. This. I am an instructor Where would you consider a 5.7 acceptable for your class? Even though it is a glorified 22 round, it is the deadliest round for LEO. It isn't up to the instructor. State law arbitrarily says you have to use something that is .32 caliber or larger to qualify for CHL. That leads to some silliness because for example, .32 S&W would be acceptable (although it is generally a revolver only round, so you'd not get an unrestricted CHL), even though it is an incredibly weak cartridge. But for counter example, 7.62x25 Tokarev would not be acceptable, even though it is up close to rounds like .357 Mag in power. And I also don't necessarily buy the anti-gunner's over-hyped alarmist rhetoric about 5.7 FN being a "cop killer" cartridge, especially with civilian available bullet choices. I was going to use the TOK as an example but since the 5.7 has gained more attention these past years, I think there is room for arguement to have TX incorporate this glorified 22 magnum as an acceptable qualification round. Hey, TXI, have you ever had anybody qualify with a Desert Eagle or Judge? |
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State law requires a .32 or larger. 5.7 is .224 and is not legal for qualification
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You can carry a 22 if you want, for proficiency qualifications though you must use a .32 or larger. This. I am an instructor Where would you consider a 5.7 acceptable for your class? Even though it is a glorified 22 round, it is the deadliest round for LEO.
Who the frack told you that? 
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State law requires a .32 or larger. 5.7 is .224 and is not legal for qualification
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You can carry a 22 if you want, for proficiency qualifications though you must use a .32 or larger. This. I am an instructor Where would you consider a 5.7 acceptable for your class? Even though it is a glorified 22 round, it is the deadliest round for LEO.
Who the frack told you that?
Guess you don't watch the news that much, especially in CA, where the 5.7 became famous for having those "cop killer" rounds. The TOK is just as deadly, if not more, but since it is not the new sexy, it went unnoticed. Once the talk of a 5.7 ban started, these guns went up in price due to the feeding frenzy. I don't appreciate this as a pistol caliber but understand the use in a PDW. For you haters, I know a person that traded his 40 for a 5.7 so he could deer hunt with it. Now that's silly. |
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State law requires a .32 or larger. 5.7 is .224 and is not legal for qualification
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You can carry a 22 if you want, for proficiency qualifications though you must use a .32 or larger. This. I am an instructor Where would you consider a 5.7 acceptable for your class? Even though it is a glorified 22 round, it is the deadliest round for LEO.
Who the frack told you that?
Guess you don't watch the news that much, especially in CA, where the 5.7 became famous for having those "cop killer" rounds. The TOK is just as deadly, if not more, but since it is not the new sexy, it went unnoticed. Once the talk of a 5.7 ban started, these guns went up in price due to the feeding frenzy. I don't appreciate this as a pistol caliber but understand the use in a PDW. For you haters, I know a person that traded his 40 for a 5.7 so he could deer hunt with it. Now that's silly. If you are calling 5.7 the "the deadliest round" tounge in cheek, then OK. I can kill with a .22 LR as dead as with a 5.7 or "TOK". Deadliest is just a meaningless term. |
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Even though it is a glorified 22 round, it is the deadliest round for LEO. Of course not. Deadliest round (as in most LEOs killed by it) is probably 40S&W these days. You could look it up on FBI web site if you wanted to know for sure. Of course what you are actually talking about is a "Glock Foh-tay"... 
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Even though it is a glorified 22 round, it is the deadliest round for LEO. Of course not. Deadliest round (as in most LEOs killed by it) is probably 40S&W these days. You could look it up on FBI web site if you wanted to know for sure. Of course what you are actually talking about is a "Glock Foh-tay"...
Not deadly, but hell on legs if you are "professional enough"
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Hilarious thread y'all!
Just look at it as a choice: Which round would you feel like you might survive a less than pefect shot to the sternum that misses arteries and and lungs and spine? I will lean towards a fast small round that goes right through vs. some nice slow 230 grain .45 acp But tha is just my opinion, but I could be wrong. |
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Even though it is a glorified 22 round, it is the deadliest round for LEO. Of course not. Deadliest round (as in most LEOs killed by it) is probably 40S&W these days. You could look it up on FBI web site if you wanted to know for sure. Just making light of the hype of the 5.7 round - like the old Black Talon bullets from years ago. Personally, I'm not a very big 40S&W fan, mostly because I have issues with the pressures/inability to reload. Here's another question for TXI - would a Mare's Leg be allowed to qualify? |
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Even though it is a glorified 22 round, it is the deadliest round for LEO. Of course not. Deadliest round (as in most LEOs killed by it) is probably 40S&W these days. You could look it up on FBI web site if you wanted to know for sure. Just making light of the hype of the 5.7 round - like the old Black Talon bullets from years ago. Personally, I'm not a very big 40S&W fan, mostly because I have issues with the pressures/inability to reload. Here's another question for TXI - would a Mare's Leg be allowed to qualify? Based on google, in pistol config sure. |