Posted: 11/15/2010 7:03:08 AM EDT
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Is there a law where an AR and silencers can or can not be used in Texas?
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Man, it's killing me. I think I've got the only deer lease in Texas without hogs. I've hunted 6 years and seen not one track.
We bought a weekend deer hunt at an auction last year that we'll be going on in December somewhere near Paris. I've been assured I can shoot as many hogs as I want out there. Still, it's a long wait. I need some pig action soon. Got a ton of de-boned deer meat ready for sausage. |
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For feral hogs it is legal, javelina are considered game animals so no.
Game animals and game birds may be hunted with any legal firearm, EXCEPT:
* white-tailed deer, mule deer, desert bighorn sheep, and pronghorn antelope may NOT be hunted with rimfire ammunition of any caliber. * shotguns are the only legal firearm that may be used to hunt Eastern turkey during the spring Eastern turkey season (see County Listing). Rifles and handguns may not be used to hunt Eastern turkey. * pellet guns and other air guns are NOT LEGAL. * fully automatic firearms are NOT LEGAL. * firearms equipped with silencers or sound-suppressing devices are NOT LEGAL. * a shotgun is the only legal firearm for hunting migratory game birds (see Definitions - Legal Shotgun). Nongame Animals (Non-Protected): Any lawful firearm, pellet gun, or other air gun is legal. Magazine Capacity (number of shells/cartridges allowed): There are no restrictions on the number of shells or cartridges a legal firearm may hold when hunting game animals or game birds (except migratory game birds, see Legal Shotgun). Muzzleloader: Any firearm that is loaded only through the muzzle. Note: A cap and ball firearm in which the powder and ball are loaded into a cylinder is not a muzzleloader. Muzzleloader deer seasons are restricted to muzzleloading firearms only. Possession of firearms by felons: A convicted felon, regardless of where the conviction occurred, may not possess or use a firearm (as defined by Penal Code, §46.01) to hunt in this state. Under Penal Code, §46.01, a muzzleloading firearm is lawful if it is an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899 or a replica of an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899 that does not use rimfire or centerfire ammunition. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/hunt/means/index.phtml? |
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For feral hogs it is legal, javelina are considered game animals so no. Game animals and game birds may be hunted with any legal firearm, EXCEPT:
* white-tailed deer, mule deer, desert bighorn sheep, and pronghorn antelope may NOT be hunted with rimfire ammunition of any caliber. * shotguns are the only legal firearm that may be used to hunt Eastern turkey during the spring Eastern turkey season (see County Listing). Rifles and handguns may not be used to hunt Eastern turkey. * pellet guns and other air guns are NOT LEGAL. * fully automatic firearms are NOT LEGAL. * firearms equipped with silencers or sound-suppressing devices are NOT LEGAL. * a shotgun is the only legal firearm for hunting migratory game birds (see Definitions - Legal Shotgun). Nongame Animals (Non-Protected): Any lawful firearm, pellet gun, or other air gun is legal. Magazine Capacity (number of shells/cartridges allowed): There are no restrictions on the number of shells or cartridges a legal firearm may hold when hunting game animals or game birds (except migratory game birds, see Legal Shotgun). Muzzleloader: Any firearm that is loaded only through the muzzle. Note: A cap and ball firearm in which the powder and ball are loaded into a cylinder is not a muzzleloader. Muzzleloader deer seasons are restricted to muzzleloading firearms only. Possession of firearms by felons: A convicted felon, regardless of where the conviction occurred, may not possess or use a firearm (as defined by Penal Code, §46.01) to hunt in this state. Under Penal Code, §46.01, a muzzleloading firearm is lawful if it is an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899 or a replica of an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899 that does not use rimfire or centerfire ammunition. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/hunt/means/index.phtml? Holy cow, how long have javalina had a bag limit? 2 per year? are the little shits going extinct or something? |
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For feral hogs it is legal, javelina are considered game animals so no. Game animals and game birds may be hunted with any legal firearm, EXCEPT:
* white-tailed deer, mule deer, desert bighorn sheep, and pronghorn antelope may NOT be hunted with rimfire ammunition of any caliber. * shotguns are the only legal firearm that may be used to hunt Eastern turkey during the spring Eastern turkey season (see County Listing). Rifles and handguns may not be used to hunt Eastern turkey. * pellet guns and other air guns are NOT LEGAL. * fully automatic firearms are NOT LEGAL. * firearms equipped with silencers or sound-suppressing devices are NOT LEGAL. * a shotgun is the only legal firearm for hunting migratory game birds (see Definitions - Legal Shotgun). Nongame Animals (Non-Protected): Any lawful firearm, pellet gun, or other air gun is legal. Magazine Capacity (number of shells/cartridges allowed): There are no restrictions on the number of shells or cartridges a legal firearm may hold when hunting game animals or game birds (except migratory game birds, see Legal Shotgun). Muzzleloader: Any firearm that is loaded only through the muzzle. Note: A cap and ball firearm in which the powder and ball are loaded into a cylinder is not a muzzleloader. Muzzleloader deer seasons are restricted to muzzleloading firearms only. Possession of firearms by felons: A convicted felon, regardless of where the conviction occurred, may not possess or use a firearm (as defined by Penal Code, §46.01) to hunt in this state. Under Penal Code, §46.01, a muzzleloading firearm is lawful if it is an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899 or a replica of an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899 that does not use rimfire or centerfire ammunition. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/hunt/means/index.phtml? Perfect! Thanks, D |
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The regs.
If you are "Hunting" and your targets are game animals... no. If you are removing a preditory non-native species, yes. Wild hogs are preditory non-native species but you still need a hunting license if you "hunt" them. Javelinas would be considered a protected native species so be aware of them. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/hunt/means/ |
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For hogs, anything goes. AR's, silencers, belt feds, RPGs, etc....... You cannot use Tannerite or similar binary compounds I didn't find anything to support your claim. Please document, not saying you are wrong, just saying I cannot find support. (about the tannerite or similar) |
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Quoted: Really?Quoted: Quoted: For hogs, anything goes. AR's, silencers, belt feds, RPGs, etc....... You cannot use Tannerite or similar binary compounds I didn't find anything to support your claim. Please document, not saying you are wrong, just saying I cannot find support. (about the tannerite or similar) Sec. 46.01. DEFINITIONS. In this chapter: <snip> (2) "Explosive weapon" means any explosive or incendiary bomb, grenade, rocket, or mine, that is designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of inflicting serious bodily injury, death, or substantial property damage, or for the principal purpose of causing such a loud report as to cause undue public alarm or terror, and includes a device designed, made, or adapted for delivery or shooting an explosive weapon. Sec. 46.05. PROHIBITED WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly possesses, manufactures, transports, repairs, or sells: (1) an explosive weapon; When you use it to kill something, even pigs, you have adapted a "reactive target" into an "explosive weapon". YMMV. |
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Actually, feral hogs are listed as "Exotics."
Page 68 of the TPWD outdoor annual. "It is against the law to: Hunt an exitic without a valid huntng licsnse. Hunt an exotic on a public road or right of way. Hunt an exotic without the landowner's permission. Possess an exotic or the carcass of an exotic without the landowner's permission." Definition of "hunt." Page 55, same pamphlet. "Hunt: to capture, trap, take, or kill, and includes any attempt to capture, trap, take, or kill." Exceptions Page 25. Exceptions: a hunting license is not required to hunt the folowing: Coyotes, if the coyotes are attacking, about to attack, or have recently attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowl. DEPREDATING (my emphasis) feral hogs, if a landowner (resident or non-resident) or landowner's agent or lessee is taking feral hogs casuing depredation on the landowner's land. Depredation, from the fur bearing animal pamphlet. DEPREDATION — Loss of, or damage to, agricultural crops, livestock, poultry, wildlife or personal property So, there you have it. You can use you AR, with silencer, on feral hogs. ETA: Or other non-game animals. |
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For feral hogs it is legal, javelina are considered game animals so no. Javelina aren't pigs. Nope, they're not. Closest cousin is the hippo believe it ot not. A Heyna isn't a dog or even in the canine family either. It's in the weasel family and closest relative is the mongoose. You can use just about anything on hogs but you do need a hunting license. A buddies who's a Civil War buf wants to take a reproduction Gatling gun out to his blind. |
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For feral hogs it is legal, javelina are considered game animals so no. Javelina aren't pigs. Nope, they're not. Closest cousin is the hippo believe it ot not. A Heyna isn't a dog or even in the canine family either. It's in the weasel family and closest relative is the mongoose. You can use just about anything on hogs but you do need a hunting license. A buddies who's a Civil War buf wants to take a reproduction Gatling gun out to his blind. I was just trying to be complete in my answer in what he might be hunting in Texas, as many people refer to javelina as pigs and didn't want to get anyone in trouble. Javelina are in the same suborder, Suina, as domestic/feral pigs just different family, but are the only two families in that suborder. The Tayassuidae family which javelina are in are also called New World Pigs and some people refer to javelina as skunk pigs. Hippos aren't considered in the Suina suborder anymore but instead more closely related to Cetaceans http://www.pnas.org/content/102/5/1537.full |
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For feral hogs it is legal, javelina are considered game animals so no. Javelina aren't pigs. Nope, they're not. Closest cousin is the hippo believe it ot not. A Heyna isn't a dog or even in the canine family either. It's in the weasel family and closest relative is the mongoose. You can use just about anything on hogs but you do need a hunting license. A buddies who's a Civil War buf wants to take a reproduction Gatling gun out to his blind. I was just trying to be complete in my answer in what he might be hunting in Texas, as many people refer to javelina as pigs and didn't want to get anyone in trouble. Javelina are in the same suborder, Suina, as domestic/feral pigs just different family, but are the only two families in that suborder. The Tayassuidae family which javelina are in are also called New World Pigs and some people refer to javelina as skunk pigs. Hippos aren't considered in the Suina suborder anymore but instead more closely related to Cetaceans http://www.pnas.org/content/102/5/1537.full Interesting. |
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Thats one thing I love about hunting hogs. Full auto, cans, explosives, close air support, whatever you want to use. TPWD wants dead pigs. A game warden who lives on the ranch next to the one I hunt on has a blood feud with hogs. We even shoot over each other's fences if we see them and just like in the old days he'll follow his hog dogs over into our place when they're on a hog. He uses an AR and pours fire into a pack, saying '...I don't care where I hit em', f#ck em'. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Thats one thing I love about hunting hogs. Full auto, cans, explosives, close air support, whatever you want to use. TPWD wants dead pigs. A game warden who lives on the ranch next to the one I hunt on has a blood feud with hogs. We even shoot over each other's fences if we see them and just like in the old days he'll follow his hog dogs over into our place when they're on a hog. He uses an AR and pours fire into a pack, saying '...I don't care where I hit em', f#ck em'. That's the spirit! |
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I had in mind to build a punt gun. If it was good enough for commericla duck and goose hunters in the 1800 it should take care of a herd of hogs. I have never heard of these so I looked them up.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punt_gun A punt gun is a type of extremely large shotgun used in the 19th and early 20th centuries for shooting large numbers of waterfowl for commercial harvesting operations and private sport. Punt guns were usually custom-designed and so varied widely, but could have bore diameters exceeding 2 inches (51 mm) and fire over a pound (0.5 kilos) of shot at a time.[1] A single shot could kill over 50 waterfowl resting on the water's surface. They were too big to hold and the recoil so large that they were mounted directly on the punts used for hunting, hence their name. Hunters would maneuver their punts quietly into line and range of the flock using poles or oars to avoid startling them. Generally the gun was fixed to the punt; thus the hunter would maneuver the entire boat in order to aim the gun. The guns were sufficiently powerful, and the punts themselves sufficiently small, that firing the gun often propelled the punt backwards several inches or more. To improve efficiency, hunters could work in fleets of up to around ten punts. In the United States, this practice depleted stocks of wild waterfowl and by the 1860s most states had banned the practice. The Lacey Act of 1900 banned the transport of wild game across state lines, and the practice of market hunting was outlawed by a series of federal laws in 1918. In the United Kingdom, a 1995 survey showed fewer than 50 active punt guns still in use. UK law limits punt guns to a bore diameter of 1.75 inches (44 mm) (1 1/8 pounder).[2] |