Posted: 5/13/2010 6:06:29 PM EDT
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So can some one tell me the differences between Liberty and Harris county?
I'm thinking of moving. |
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Now, seriously, the taxes are cheaper. Your car insurance will be cheaper. Liberty, or at least parts of it are dry. So, if you want to go someplace and have a drink, you will need to join a private club. Personally, I would never join a club that would have me as a member, but for drinking purposes, I held my nose and joined one.
Land prices are cheaper than they are in Harris county, and I imagine that housing prices are too. We don't have any toll roads (yet). They are widening 146 into Mt. Belvieu, which will be nice. More when I can think of it. |
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Its is alright but if you need something important you have to go into humble or beaumont. Also every one drives slow out there in the left hand lane, and i f you are driving faster they just pull over on the side of the road and let you pass ignore you. There that's the way it really is. |
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If you work and will still have to commute to Houston, DON'T DO IT! You will wear out your car and spend all of your money on gas and time on the road. The only way it might be worthwhile is if you are retired and have a sizeable amount of acreage where you can shoot and get an agricultural or timber exemption for your land.
Depending upon which part of Liberty County you live in, taxes are just as high or higher per $100 valuation as Harris County. Generally only the school districts give a homestead exemption; only because it is state mandated. The cities, county, and other districts do not. Harris County entities generally give a 20% exemption across the board. Liberty County can have many taxing jurisdictions. If you live in the City of Liberty, you will pay taxes to the city, county, school district (LISD), hospital district, water districts, and navigation district. The unincorporated county may not be much better. You may only miss out on the city taxes. Appraisal values are still going up even in the worst recession since the 1980's oil and S&L bust. Some folks with non-homestead properties have seen at least 10%-20% increases (at least in LISD). Homesteads are capped at 10% per year per state law. There is little business base in most of the county, so the tax burden falls on the homeowners. The is amplified due to the multiple families with many children living in a single home. The cost of groceries and other supplies is also higher than in Harris County due to little or no competition. The county is dry so no hard liquor. You can buy beer and wine only. No jobs unless you count the local governments and service industries. Schools are no better if not worse than Harris County. Over 75% of the students in LISD are on free or reduced lunch. I would say it is one of the poorest and least educated counties in Texas outside of the Valley. It has all of the same problems and issues as Harris County if not worse due to the smaller population. More crime, drugs, and other social issues per capita. Very small middle class. The people with money own their own businesses or made it from farming in the past. Most everyone else is on the dole. If you do have a decent job, you most likely have to drive to Houston, Beaumont, Mont Belvieu, or Baytown. If you don't belive me, check out the local internet news site www.i-dineout.com. Good luck! |
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If you work and will still have to commute to Houston, DON'T DO IT! You will wear out your car and spend all of your money on gas and time on the road. The only way it might be worthwhile is if you are retired and have a sizeable amount of acreage where you can shoot and get an agricultural or timber exemption for your land. Depending upon which part of Liberty County you live in, taxes are just as high or higher per $100 valuation as Harris County. Generally only the school districts give a homestead exemption; only because it is state mandated. The cities, county, and other districts do not. Harris County entities generally give a 20% exemption across the board. Liberty County can have many taxing jurisdictions. If you live in the City of Liberty, you will pay taxes to the city, county, school district (LISD), hospital district, water districts, and navigation district. The unincorporated county may not be much better. You may only miss out on the city taxes. Appraisal values are still going up even in the worst recession since the 1980's oil and S&L bust. Some folks with non-homestead properties have seen at least 10%-20% increases (at least in LISD). Homesteads are capped at 10% per year per state law. There is little business base in most of the county, so the tax burden falls on the homeowners. The is amplified due to the multiple families with many children living in a single home. The cost of groceries and other supplies is also higher than in Harris County due to little or no competition. The county is dry so no hard liquor. You can buy beer and wine only. No jobs unless you count the local governments and service industries. Schools are no better if not worse than Harris County. Over 75% of the students in LISD are on free or reduced lunch. I would say it is one of the poorest and least educated counties in Texas outside of the Valley. It has all of the same problems and issues as Harris County if not worse due to the smaller population. More crime, drugs, and other social issues per capita. Very small middle class. The people with money own their own businesses or made it from farming in the past. Most everyone else is on the dole. If you do have a decent job, you most likely have to drive to Houston, Beaumont, Mont Belvieu, or Baytown. If you don't belive me, check out the local internet news site www.i-dineout.com. Good luck! Judge Fitzgerald, you shouldn't talk like that. 
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Back in the day Sheriff Stewart and Sheriff Arthur would sign for NFA. However they are long gone and the current sheriff (Henry Patterson) is havig ATF issues. He was the former City of Cleveland assistant chief of police. His man there (Harry Kelley) and now sheriff's captain is accused of taking guns from the Cleveland property room and selling them to Sportsman's Outlet in Humble. He and Patterson were the only two people who had keys to the property room. Below is part of the story, follow the URL for the full story. Needless to say, he may not be too excited to do anything involving the ATF.
I never dealt with any of the cities except for Liberty. Ten years ago Chief Tidwell was never in the office so there was no way he could sign any forms. He left for a while and is now back. I doubt anything has changed, so good luck catching him in the office. I would go with an LLC if it were me. http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2010/02/22/eastex_advocate/news/0910atf_investigation_ea.txt According to court documents, Captain Harry Kelley (left) with the Liberty County Sheriff’s Office is the target of an ATF investigation after 500 guns were reportedly discovered missing from the property room at Cleveland Police Department at a time when Kelley worked for CPD as an evidence technician. Approximately 100 of the guns have been recovered from an Humble gun shop, Sportman’s Outlet. Another 400 weapons are still missing. Even though LCSO is aware of the ATF investigation, Kelley is still working in his capacity as captain of the LCSO substation in Cleveland. On Friday, he was involved in a game room raid in Cleveland. He is pictured at the game room raid with LCSO’s Steve Green. The ATF’s investigation also involves Liberty County Sheriff Henry Patterson, who was the CPD assistant chief at the time the guns were reportedly ordered for destruction. According to the affidavit, only Patterson and Kelley had keys to the CPD property room where the guns were held. |
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Liberty County is the welfare capitol of Texas Socio-economic status is one of the lowest in the world. (have you seen people of wal-mart?) Don't get mad at me for saying so, hell I live here. Cleveland area is loaded with illegals/wannabe ms13 type people and spreading west toward Coldspring, east toward Dayton, south toward Coldspring and north toward Shepherd. I worked with a Mexican (questionably illegal) welder once (about 15 years ago), who told me that Mescans were going to take Texas back and "never fire a chott". I'm starting to believe what he said. |
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We have our own brand of scumbags here. These guys are what I would call born-again stupid.
DAYTON, May 15, 2010 - On May 14, 2010 at approx 5:30 PM Dayton police officers responded to a call in the 900 block of FM 686 in reference to shots being fired. Upon their arrival officers found the home of the TDCJ warden, Warden Howard, had been damaged by gunfire. Warden Howard’s two sons Kasey Young and Horatio Young were at home at the time of the incident but the two occupants sustained no injuries. Witnessed accounts of the events that took place suggest three subjects in a blue 4-door Chevy passenger car drove into the driveway of the wardens home and busted the glass on the storm door and before the subjects inside could react two suspects opened fire shooting the house and two vehicles parked in the driveway owned by Warden Howard. Responding officers were able to get a detailed description of the car and pass it on to other law enforcement agencies in the surrounding areas and Harris County. With this crucial information Harris County Sheriff’s Department was able to locate the suspect vehicle. Shortly after a pursuit ensued and the suspect vehicle crashed in the area of Beltway 8 and US 90. Three suspects were taken in to custody. Nelson Hernandez 24 of Dayton, arrested for evading arrest or detention in a motor vehicle, Henry Hernandez 20 of Dayton arrested for unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon, and Larry Galloway of Harris County, arrested for Deadly Conduct. With the evidence collected at the scene of the shooting and the scene of the crash there will be other charges to follow pending further investigation. The cause of the disturbance is unknown at this time. If you really need a link, I'll get it for you. ETA: Are there any liberty hams out there? |