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5/12/2010 6:38:37 PM EDT
This knife has a single edge, and the hand wraps around the handle - not the handle around the hand. Not a dagger, not defined as "knuckles"... anything that I missed?
5/12/2010 6:50:20 PM EDT
[#1]
That looks cool to me
it's big brother would be legal If you flattened the edge on it (it's a double edged push dagger) but with one of it's edges squared to a false edge even it would be legal.
5/13/2010 4:25:04 AM EDT
[#2]
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This knife has a single edge, and the hand wraps around the handle - not the handle around the hand. Not a dagger, not defined as "knuckles"... anything that I missed?


The description on the web pages calls it a dagger.
5/13/2010 4:37:12 AM EDT
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This knife has a single edge, and the hand wraps around the handle - not the handle around the hand. Not a dagger, not defined as "knuckles"... anything that I missed?


The description on the web pages calls it a dagger.


A dagger is double-edged. The one that I linked to is single-edged, they just mis-labled it.
5/13/2010 6:32:40 AM EDT
[#4]
What's the question? The knife you linked to is a dagger. A dagger is an illegal knife, but not a prohibited weapon.

Oh and from Webster


Main Entry: dag·ger
Pronunciation: \ˈda-gər
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English
Date: 14th century
1 : a sharp pointed knife for stabbing
5/13/2010 7:15:05 AM EDT
[#5]
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What's the question? The knife you linked to is a dagger. A dagger is an illegal knife, but not a prohibited weapon.

Oh and from Webster


Main Entry: dag·ger
Pronunciation: \ˈda-gər
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English
Date: 14th century
1 : a sharp pointed knife for stabbing


Webster doesn't matter, what matters is the Texas code...  Also doesn't matter what the manufacturer calls it.  They could call a swiss army knife a switchblade and it wouldn't make it a prohibited weapon.

5/13/2010 7:56:06 AM EDT
[#6]
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What's the question? The knife you linked to is a dagger. A dagger is an illegal knife, but not a prohibited weapon.

Oh and from Webster


Main Entry: dag·ger
Pronunciation: \ˈda-gər
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English
Date: 14th century
1 : a sharp pointed knife for stabbing


Webster doesn't matter, what matters is the Texas code...  Also doesn't matter what the manufacturer calls it.  They could call a swiss army knife a switchblade and it wouldn't make it a prohibited weapon.



Since "Texas code" does not define dagger, a trier of fact will look to Webster's for the definition of Dagger.

Webster DOES matter.
5/13/2010 9:10:08 AM EDT
[#7]

Main Entry: dag·ger
Pronunciation: \ˈda-gər
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English
Date: 14th century
1 : a sharp pointed knife for stabbing


If that definition is what counts, we're all in trouble.  I don't know of anyone that doesn't have a a sharp pointed knife for stabbing. Let's try another source:

Wikipedia

"Daggers may be differentiated from knives on the basis that daggers are intended primarily for stabbing whereas knives are usually single-edged and intended mostly for cutting. However, many knives and daggers are capable of either stabbing or cutting."..


Clear as mud? Let's have another run at it:

"A dagger (probably from Vulgar Latin: 'daca' - a Dacian knife) is a double-edged blade used for stabbing  or thrusting."...
5/13/2010 9:28:14 AM EDT
[#8]
Lol. Just look at the design. Its primary purpose is to stab. Knives can stab, but are not for stabbing. Daggers are primarily designed for stabbing. The number of sharpened sides does not necessarily determine the type.

The Wikipedia definition and the Webster definition are the same.

Again, what exactly is the OP's question?

Oh yeah and Webster of knife


Main Entry: 1knife
Pronunciation: \ˈnīf
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural knives \ˈnīvz
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English knif, from Old English cnīf, perhaps from Old Norse knīfr; akin to Middle Low German knīf knife
Date: before 12th century
1 a : a cutting instrument consisting of a sharp blade fastened to a handle b : a weapon resembling a knife
2 : a sharp cutting blade or tool in a machine
5/13/2010 9:40:59 AM EDT
[#9]
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Lol. Just look at the design. Its primary purpose is to stab.


Go look at a picture of a knife. See the pointy end?

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Again, what exactly is the OP's question?


Is that cutting instrument that I linked to legal? It's not a dagger. It's not knuckles. Is there a law regarding push knives that I missed?

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Oh yeah and Webster of knife


Main Entry: 1knife
Pronunciation: \ˈnīf
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural knives \ˈnīvz
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English knif, from Old English cnīf, perhaps from Old Norse knīfr; akin to Middle Low German knīf knife
Date: before 12th century
1 a : a cutting instrument consisting of a sharp blade fastened to a handle b : a weapon resembling a knife
2 : a sharp cutting blade or tool in a machine


Not really helping any, lol.
5/13/2010 10:09:33 AM EDT
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Is that cutting instrument that I linked to legal? It's not a dagger. It's not knuckles. Is there a law regarding push knives that I missed?


I already answered that. The knife you linked is a dagger. Daggers are illegal knives, but not a prohibited weapon.
5/13/2010 11:21:57 AM EDT
[#11]
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Is that cutting instrument that I linked to legal? It's not a dagger. It's not knuckles. Is there a law regarding push knives that I missed?


I already answered that. The knife you linked is a dagger. Daggers are illegal knives, but not a prohibited weapon.


Feh.  The law is a freaking mess.  Just about any fixed blade knife with a point could be considered a "dagger" by those weak definitions.  Texas code doesn't specify Websters or any other definition apparently.

FWIW, I carry a damned Swiss Army knife.  It is about the only kind knife (small non-locking folder with rounded tip blade) I'm comfortable that is legal to carry anywhere in Texas.  If 25 rounds of .380 (1 chambered + 3x6 rd mags) doesn't git-r-done then I guess I'm just going to have to beat feet since a knife isn't a workable backup plan.

Given the amount this comes up around here obviously the knife laws are archaic, obsolete, vague, confusing and need to change.  Where is the NKA or the TSKA when you need them.
5/13/2010 2:41:30 PM EDT
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Is that cutting instrument that I linked to legal? It's not a dagger. It's not knuckles. Is there a law regarding push knives that I missed?


I already answered that. The knife you linked is a dagger. Daggers are illegal knives, but not a prohibited weapon.


So... is it a knife or a dagger?
5/13/2010 5:02:13 PM EDT
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Is that cutting instrument that I linked to legal? It's not a dagger. It's not knuckles. Is there a law regarding push knives that I missed?


I already answered that. The knife you linked is a dagger. Daggers are illegal knives, but not a prohibited weapon.


So... is it a knife or a dagger?


Knagger?
5/13/2010 6:09:37 PM EDT
[#14]
It's a knife
daggers have a double edge.
That IS WHY they are designed for stabbing.  
Simple as that.

Ignore the peanut gallery.
5/13/2010 6:12:28 PM EDT
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Is that cutting instrument that I linked to legal? It's not a dagger. It's not knuckles. Is there a law regarding push knives that I missed?





I already answered that. The knife you linked is a dagger. Daggers are illegal knives, but not a prohibited weapon.




So... is it a knife or a dagger?




Knagger?
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5/13/2010 10:31:41 PM EDT
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Is that cutting instrument that I linked to legal? It's not a dagger. It's not knuckles. Is there a law regarding push knives that I missed?


I already answered that. The knife you linked is a dagger. Daggers are illegal knives, but not a prohibited weapon.


So... is it a knife or a dagger?


Knagger?
People who annoy you?

 


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My take on it is this:  It doesn't necessarily have a handle and therefore it may be look at as a "stabbing" instrument and not a cutting one.  My advice would be ask a local cop.
5/14/2010 5:48:31 AM EDT
[#17]
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It's a knife
daggers have a double edge.
That IS WHY they are designed for stabbing.  
Simple as that.

Ignore the peanut gallery.


Said the leader of the peanut gallery.




The OP has read the definitions and law. He will have to make a conclusion based on that, unless he has other sources.   Unless you can cite case law or have something to add that is authorative, you certainly are not the official determination.