Posted: 9/9/2008 7:33:48 AM EDT
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chl-texas.com/default.asp Anyone been through their class? I'm signed up for an upcoming class. Seems to be comprehensive and they do everything all in one day. What is unclear to me though is that they only request 50 rounds of ammunition while most places ask for 100. I'll bring 100 just in case. I'm thinking perhaps the extra 50 might be for practicing before the drill? Also, I thought a requirement was to shoot some targets with a ballcap on facing forwards. I am seeing a few CHL sites not list this or else list it as optional in case it is sunny.. lol! *shrug* ?? |
| I took mine through them a few years ago and it was really good. I guess the extra ammo would be in case you didn't qualify the first time. We did no practice shooting. Nothing was said about a cap, I was wearing one anyway. They do want you to shoot with muffs and not plugs, they have extra sets. Good Luck! |
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asking you to bring 50 when all you need is 50 is nice of them. other ranges may try to sell you 100 Just in case? at about $15.00 a box? i have never had instructors tell me i could practice or retest if i failed. not that anyone who has any shooting exp could fail the shooting portion. most good schools who have their acts together are one stop shops. there are no requirements like wearing ball caps or other sillyness. just some very basic drills. keep your ears open and relax and you will ace it. the hardest part for me was the fingerprints. 
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Good class, but I have to agree, he is VERY opinionated. Just smile, nod your head, and don't argue, it will make the class go smoother. Ryan |
You have said all you need to say for me to know for a fact you have taken a class from him.  Yeah, don't argue with him, even if (probably when) he says something that makes you want to raise the ARFCOM BS flag. The class is long enough as it is! |
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OK, thanks for the info.. Does anyone know if you can use a laser sight to qualify? It will light up the target (well, it will only be accurate at a specific range that it was zero'd in for but will help).. I'm thinking about qualifying with my Ruger LCP. It's a pocket .380ACP which is big enough to hold and qualify and shoot fairly well, but I might struggle with the 45ft stuff, as I have to shoot 10 of those. I think even if I miss all of those I can still pass, but it will be a lot harder and I'll have to get almost all of the shorter shots spot on to do so. |
I don't know whether it's permitted or not, but it's certainly not necessary. You can NOT fail this shooting test, trust me. I literally could pass blindfolded. 40 out of 50 of the shots take place at 7 yards and under (3 yards even!) You only need to hit a HUGE target with 35 of those to pass (on average, it's slightly more complex scoring than that.) |
Are you sure? I read one CHL class site from Dallas, TX that says TX CHL needs 3, 7, and 15ft testing, but the place I'm registered for explicitly says 9, 15, and 45ft! Which is right??? I cannot find this information anywhere on TX DPS site. I think things have changed but I haven't a clue which set of info is correct. |
I want to believe you. I really hope you are right. How recently did you come about this info, and where can I find this documented on TX web site. I was all fine until my friend told me about 45 and I'm planning to use this pocket pistol - the one I've been practicing with and the only ACP I own. It is possible from rugerforums.com but VERY difficult. I'd miss all 10 of the 45's most likely. I dunno. I can borrow a 9mm from the place I suppose but have never practiced with theirs right, so... Please help me know the truth! I'm freakin out man! </super troopers>  |
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Longest distance is 15 yards (45 feet). The test is surprisingly easy but he'll drill into you that any shot that doesn't touch silhouette is a lawsuit (which is probably true). One guy in my class he passed but he told the man that he should do some serious range time before carrying. Another guy screwed up with commands twice in a roll. I am surprised the instructor didn't just kick him out of the class but he did chew the guy a new one.. twice. Basically he popped off rounds at the "at the ready" command instead of "fire". Oops. ETA: I personally found out that I need to practice malfunction drills more. My Kimber 1911 TLE which has been a reliable pistol failed to feed twice. The outside temperature at the test range was below freezing and the gun lube I had used after cleaning the week before wasn't rated for it. Nothing a palm slap wouldn't have fixed but it's all about reaction time when the trigger pulls but no bang-bang. |
Your evidence is below. Those posting are correct. and FYI, the state does not address a LASER. As an instructor, I don't care if a student uses a LASER. CHL shooting course of fire |
This is correct...I took mine last may...hope you been practicing double taps. |
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By double tap, you mean just two quick shots? I think a lot of these are like 3 in 9 seconds or 2 in 5 seconds or whatever, and it changes. I saw the whole list somewhere. I saw the 3yds one has some 2 shots in 3s, which is like 1.5s per shot allowed, or less. So that will be tricky but at least it's close range. I was getting mixed up on the 15 vs 45 not seeing if it was ft or yds, so thanks all for the clarification. The answer is BOTH I guess, 15yds = 45ft as was so happily pointed out. :-) My only nearby range (Red's Indoor in South Austin) doesn't allow rapid fire, so nothing quicker than 3s between shots which means no practicing double or triple taps for me *doh* ... :-( |
| You should be able to practice for the test at Reds. It's not anything crazy fast for the "double tap" shots. I've shot plenty of times at Reds when I lived in Austin with a second or two between shots and never had any problems. They sell the big targets there used in the test so you can maybe even tell them you will be practicing for it and I doubt they'd give you any trouble, always seemed to be pretty nice guys working there when I went. |
Usually red's is cool about doubles if you're keeping them on target. Trust me, you'll pass the shooting test. I know a lot of folks get nervous about it, but you'll be surprised at just how large this target is. Old ladies who haven't shot a gun in years go in and pass this test (no exaggeration.) In fact, there was one in my last renewal class. It's never a bad idea to brush up, but don't lose any sleep over this. |
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On the subject of lasers... During the instructor recertification class we were told that laser sights were not to be used during qualification. I KNOW there are some instructors that allow them to be used in their classes (based on the response this generated  ) I am not aware that there has ever been a formal ban on their use published or disseminated to instructors, I do know that some instructors will not let them be used based on the verbal directions given. I do not allow them in my class, I also do not allow open toed shoes, or reloads FWIW. Joat |
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The fastest times are 2 rounds in 4 seconds. There is no requirement to draw from the holster; all shooting is done from low or high ready. More like a VERY controlled pair rather than a double tap. ;) |
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Thanks for the all the feedback guys.. I appreciate it, and all of the support. :) I just still have not decided to try with this Ruger LCP I have, or to borrow the classroom's 9mm. I guess I get 2 or 3 attempts to pass, so I could try with the LCP and if I fail, use the 9mm. *shrug* I'm comfortable with my gun, but it is not as accurate as a longer-barreled 9mm, which I'd be uncomfortable with being I would have never shot it before, that's for sure. |
I'd shoot a gun you know already, but that's just me. You don't need a gun that shoots 1/4" at 25 yards to pass this test. The target is HUGE. They might as well take you outside and have you aim at a barn. |
