Posted: 10/18/2006 1:55:19 PM EDT
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So, I got "244" with my Springfield USGI 1911-A1 45.... second highest in the class by one point (he got 245, while nobody else was over 239). Should I be proud, or hang my head with a room full of losers? What's the best one can score? I know I got several shots into holes I punched previously. Any chance the scorers missed those? ETA: Really, I'm not all that competitive! The fact I regularly hit a man-sized target is really good enough for me. |
250 is the top possible score. 5 points for each of 50 rounds. in the 7 ring 4 points, and outside of the 7, but on the silhouette is 3 points. 244 is not bad. now find yourself a real shooting class to get into and see what happens to your shots when you get under pressure and have to present from a holster, etc. Good job and best of luck. |
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good score ... When i took the class we has some lady that had to shoot it over... How ? Hell I have no idea how you could fail at that course. 3, 7 , 15 yds ...... its doable with your eyes closed but some how she failed and on the second time only passed by a few points. Invisiblesoul |
| I shot a 250, but what was most satisfying to me was that it was my first trip to the range with a new set of XS 24/7 Sights (regular size, not Big Dots). I hadn't planned on taking the class for a few weeks, but a friend notified me of a class coming up, so I took it. I had the new sights put on my Wilson 1911 just a few days before. |
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I have taken it three times, with a Glock 19. Shot a "250" score all three times. On the last one I shot... I decided I would do nothing but head shots. (before the targets changed, so I hear). Still got a 250.  The 15 yard line was a little scarier - I kept thinking I was gonna drop one.In COM - if you shoot much at all you should be scoring 246 or higher. Everyone might drop one or two. 244 is still respectable, tho. I would have been devastated. 
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I shot a 248 the first time and 249 on the second and third renewal. We had one guy shoot a 250 in my last class and the instructors were giving people helll about it. They were really pushing the advanced training classes. I would love to but you know the drill......time and money.
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He said he'd never fired a semi-auto before... I'm guessing the ammo was fine. P.S. I am sure I would have done better had I not been under "performance pressure". I know I've done better when I'm just shooting at my own pace. The whole "2 shots - whistle - bang bang ---------- whistle" thing really gets the pressure on. I was firing with both eyes open, except on the longest range. Also, I do better with an old-skool "stand sideways, left hand on hip, right arm fully extended" stance.... but they required two-handed stance. |
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My wife shot a 237 with her Glock 19 and very little experience. Then she went to a basic defensive handgun class, so I'm sure she'd do even better now. I shot two-forty-something on my first one, and 250 for my renewal. I took the renewal class with Sader762 and our targets were almost identical, except his flinch was a little outside the line and mine was a little inside. If its any consolation he routinely takes me to town when we shoot matches together. 
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I don't know about routinely....... The pulled shot I had was because I had a malfunction. The guy running the thing told us to not worry about malfunctions, we could stop clear it and then finish the string. Well, I'm so ingrained now on defensive shooting that I immediately racked and tapped and hurried to finish out the string and pulled it......  This was at the 15 yard line. The other 49 bullet holes covered the heart and are about the size of my fist .Next time either all head shots or eyes closed..... 
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With all due respect....the malfunction did not cause you to pull the shot. Your shooting faster than you are able or train to caused you to pull the shot. |
Good point -- but we're really splitting hairs at this point. The malfunction -- and his training -- caused him to be down a point. The instructors said that if anyone's weapon malfunctioned to stop shooting, let them clear the malfunction, then give the gun back to continue the string. If Sader762 had done this I doubt he would have pulled the shot, and would have ended up with a perfect 250. Instead, when the gun malfunctioned he instinctively cleared the jam and finished the string within the time limit (3 or 5 seconds, I can't remember). The last shot was hurried, so less time was taken to line up and squeeze. As a result it landed about 1/2" outside the middle circle, but still a solid hit in the -1 zone. This was at the 15 yard stage. IIRC he was shooting his 3" 1911 that day. More training might have kept him from pulling that shot, but I still call that very respectable shooting. |
Agreed. Just don't blame the malfunction. ;) |
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I shot a 250 in my class with a Glock 19. The scores are calculated as follows: each shot is given a score from 3 to 5 if I recall. You shoot 50 rounds, so 5 times 50 makes 250 a perfect score. Funny store. My shooting partner that I hooked up with at the course had broken his thumb on his shooting hand about 6 months before the course. He said his hand was still tender and that he had not shot a weapon in months. He should up with a 1911 and was shooting .45 cal 230-grain FMJ rounds. After about 10 rounds, he was really hurting. I offered to let him shoot my Glock, but he toughed it out. At the end, he still shot a 225. BTW--you need to shoot a 175 to pass. |
Ok, gee thanks, so when can I take your next training class .I don't give a crap about scoring a 250 to be honest. The whole point of my posts was a "complaint" that the shooting portion of the CHL is so easy that people who can't pass it should be mandated to take an actual training class where they put hundreds of rounds down range. And YES, my shooting faster did cause me to pull the shot. I went from slow (2/3 sec. splits) shots to clearing a jam and moving into "combat" mode where all I care about is center of mass shooting (1/3 sec. or faster splits). You see it works like this. You can shoot fast and accurate OR you can shoot extremely fast and less accurate. Here is a website that has good shooting tips .... Matt Burkett or Brian Enos Enjoy. No offense, I know you originally said "With all due respect" but then you slammed me for my shooting when you don't know crap about how well or fast I shoot. It got under my skin somewhat I guess..... I'm not the world's best or fastest shooter but I think I do alright  .
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A driving test that is comparable to our CHL proficiency exam would be like.... ok - Can you start the car? Check. Can you put it in drive? Check. Pull forward 10 feet please. Check. Okay! All done! |
That, plus a refresher course (classroom time) is still a FAR CRY from what is done now. I see an awful lot of drivers whom I bet would still fail your test. :) The POINT I was REALLY trying to make (I realize I wasn't nearly clueful enuff on) was this: The Right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed by our Constitution. As such, it should not be something that is licensed (entailing fees, training, etc). However, there is no constitutional right to operate a motor vehicle on roads built by public funds, so licensing that is acceptable. I believe that it is "wrong" that drivers licenses have lower requirements than CHLs (which really shouldnt exist anyway). CHL licensing/training (and its higher standards than DLs) isnt about public safety at all, which is proven by the fact that motor vehicles operated by licensed drivers pose a greater threat of harm to the public than even UNLICENSED (and technically illegal) concealed "bearing" of arms. If it WERE about safety, which license should be harder to get? |
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I need to renew.... Hopefully, this time, I won't have Baby Eagle flying brass landing on my collar and sticking to my chest. By the time I was done I had a blister about and inch square on my chest. So, my score was like 238 or something. I was proud of my bride as she had only begun shooting at the end of September and shot a 223 in November...not bad... |
Just so long as you don't blame it on a pencil malfunction. If you spent more time drinking, you could have answered those questions correctly. 
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a few people in my class got a 250. |
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