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Posted: 6/26/2003 6:21:13 AM EDT
My boss and I were having a discussion on CHL, he also has his. He thinks you have to show your chl to a cop everytime, even if your not carrying. I disagree.
Anyone know where in the law this is covered.
A link would be especially appreciated.

Thanks

TXL
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 6:46:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/26/2003 10:42:45 AM EDT by maggiethecat]
you are correct. you only need to give the chl card when you have a weapon on you. but it is courtesy to do so all the time. the will see you have one if they run your DL # so why not offer? I included a link below from the dps website. scroll down to section 411.205. i also did a cut and paste

411.205. Displaying License; Penalty

(a) If a license holder IS CARRYING A HANDGUN ON OR ABOUT THE LICENSE HOLDER'S PERSON when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license. A person who fails or refuses to display the license and identification as required by this subsection is subject to suspension of the person's license as provided by Section 411.187.

(b) A person commits an offense if the person fails or refuses to display the license and identification as required by Subsection (a) after previously having had the person's license suspended for a violation of that subsection. An offense under this subsection is a Class B misdemeanor.
Added by Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 165, § 10.01(a), eff. Sept. 1, 1997.
Amended by Acts 1999, 76th Leg., ch. 62, § 9.17(a), eff. Sept. 1, 1999.

www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/go/go0041100.html#go167.411.171
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 8:31:02 AM EDT
Only if you are carrying, and only if he asks for ID.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 12:02:00 PM EDT
your paperz pleaze
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 12:09:37 PM EDT
when the cops approach you just yell out "I got a gun"! you won't need to show ID as he will find it himself during the pat down.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 2:06:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 308wood:
when the cops approach you just yell out "I got a gun"! you won't need to show ID as he will find it himself during the pat down.



Of course durring the pat down you will be face down after being shot.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 2:13:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Slumlord:

Originally Posted By 308wood:
when the cops approach you just yell out "I got a gun"! you won't need to show ID as he will find it himself during the pat down.



Of course durring the pat down you will be face down after being shot.



naw, they won't shoot you just for saying it.
maybe showing it but not just saying it.

but do expect to taste asphalt, blood and maybe pepper spray.
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 5:40:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By maggiethecat:
you are correct. you only need to give the chl card when you have a weapon on you. but it is courtesy to do so all the time. the will see you have one if they run your DL # so why not offer? I included a link below from the dps website. scroll down to section 411.205. i also did a cut and paste

411.205. Displaying License; Penalty

(a) If a license holder IS CARRYING A HANDGUN ON OR ABOUT THE LICENSE HOLDER'S PERSON when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license. A person who fails or refuses to display the license and identification as required by this subsection is subject to suspension of the person's license as provided by Section 411.187.

(b) A person commits an offense if the person fails or refuses to display the license and identification as required by Subsection (a) after previously having had the person's license suspended for a violation of that subsection. An offense under this subsection is a Class B misdemeanor.
Added by Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 165, § 10.01(a), eff. Sept. 1, 1997.
Amended by Acts 1999, 76th Leg., ch. 62, § 9.17(a), eff. Sept. 1, 1999.

www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/go/go0041100.html#go167.411.171



However, if he goes and checks your TDL, it will come back saying you have a CHL...at which point he'll come back and ask you if you're carrying...why not show it to him and say you don't have the weapon....? Saves any questioning bullshit....

of course, that's just my opinion...I could be wrong
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 6:19:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By COZ_45:

Originally Posted By maggiethecat:
you are correct. you only need to give the chl card when you have a weapon on you. but it is courtesy to do so all the time. THEY WILL SEE YOU HAVE ONE IF THEY RUN YOUR DL# so why not offer? I included a link below from the dps website. scroll down to section 411.205. i also did a cut and paste

411.205. Displaying License; Penalty

(a) If a license holder IS CARRYING A HANDGUN ON OR ABOUT THE LICENSE HOLDER'S PERSON when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license. A person who fails or refuses to display the license and identification as required by this subsection is subject to suspension of the person's license as provided by Section 411.187.

(b) A person commits an offense if the person fails or refuses to display the license and identification as required by Subsection (a) after previously having had the person's license suspended for a violation of that subsection. An offense under this subsection is a Class B misdemeanor.
Added by Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 165, § 10.01(a), eff. Sept. 1, 1997.
Amended by Acts 1999, 76th Leg., ch. 62, § 9.17(a), eff. Sept. 1, 1999.

www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/go/go0041100.html#go167.411.171



However, if he goes and checks your TDL, it will come back saying you have a CHL...at which point he'll come back and ask you if you're carrying...why not show it to him and say you don't have the weapon....? Saves any questioning bullshit....

of course, that's just my opinion...I could be wrong




THATS WHAT I SAID
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 7:54:42 AM EDT
Yep give him the CHL so you wont have to answer that "May I search your vehicle" question."
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 10:04:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 308wood:
when the cops approach you just yell out "I got a gun"! you won't need to show ID as he will find it himself during the pat down.



I prefer to let them see me reaching for it before I yell I have a gun... :)
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 11:06:15 PM EDT
As of a couple of years ago, you only have to present your chl if you're carrying. the law was changed. When CHL became law, and up until prior to the law change, you had to show chl when asked for id regardless of whether or not you were carrying.

That's the scoop.
Link Posted: 6/29/2003 6:22:31 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 8:39:31 AM EDT
because it's illegal to carry at the lodge!

TXL
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 3:19:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TxLewis:
because it's illegal to carry at the lodge!

TXL



It's only illegal when you get caught.

"Why yes, as a matter of fact, that is a gun in my pocket!"

TRG
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 7:32:23 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 7:59:55 AM EDT
mmm... the Lodge... will be there tonight!
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