Posted: 3/13/2013 11:06:37 AM EDT
| Quick question, my wife is a Newfie and her brother is coming in April to turkey hunt here in Indiana. Can he legally bring ammo back into Canada bought here in Indiana. Tks. |
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Quoted: Quick question, my wife is a Newfie and her brother is coming in April to turkey hunt here in Indiana. Can he legally bring ammo back into Canada bought here in Indiana. Tks. Last I checked he is allowed up to 5000 rounds per person. He probably should verify before he heads home though. |
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Quick question, my wife is a Newfie and her brother is coming in April to turkey hunt here in Indiana. Can he legally bring ammo back into Canada bought here in Indiana. Tks. Last I checked he is allowed up to 5000 rounds per person. He probably should verify before he heads home though. He is allowed by Canada, but not the U.S. You are not allowed to export ammo without a permit and if you try and get caught on the US side (and yes we check outbound) you could be subject to imprisonment up to 30 days, a heavy fine and possible confiscation of your vehicle etc. DO NOT CHANCE IT. Canadians have no rights to be in possession of a firearms/ammo in the U.S. |
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Quick question, my wife is a Newfie and her brother is coming in April to turkey hunt here in Indiana. Can he legally bring ammo back into Canada bought here in Indiana. Tks. Last I checked he is allowed up to 5000 rounds per person. He probably should verify before he heads home though. He is allowed by Canada, but not the U.S. You are not allowed to export ammo without a permit and if you try and get caught on the US side (and yes we check outbound) you could be subject to imprisonment up to 30 days, a heavy fine and possible confiscation of your vehicle etc. DO NOT CHANCE IT. Canadians have no rights to be in possession of a firearms/ammo in the U.S. Is this based on the Alien definition as aliens are not allowed to possess? Just asking as there was a recent ruling by ATF that re-defined alien. Canucks are no longer referred to as aliens while in USA. According to ATF, we can purchase and possess both ammo and guns. Export may be a different story. Mark |
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here is the link I found:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012-06-07/pdf/2012-13762.pdf Mark ETA, forgot the link was stickied at the top of the Canuck forum too. |
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They aren't allowed to export it, the ATF requires a license. roger that, it was regarding this: Canadians have no rights to be in possession of a firearms/ammo in the U.S. Mark Allow me to clarify: If you bring a gun and/or ammo from Canada without the proper ATF documentation your going to have a bad time. Also, ammo isn't supposed to be sold no non-residents without a valid hunting permit and then they are severely limited to the number/type of rounds they can purchase. I just don't want people to think you can come down from Canada and just buy all the guns/ammo you want and take it back, thats not the case, and people do get hemmed up for it. |
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If a Canadian legal gun owner wishes to possess a firearm and ammunition in The U.S., s/he must first obtain an ATT for the border crossings s/he intends to use. To enter the U.S., s/he must have a hunting license or a written invitation to a sanctioned gun competition. S/he must obtain a completed Form 6 NIA from the BATFE. I recommend avoiding the crossings in the Niagara Region and Sarnia. Certain CPB agents do not seem to grasp the legalities of the Form 6. Some Canadians are given a hard time. Some are turned around.
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If a Canadian legal gun owner wishes to possess a firearm and ammunition in The U.S., s/he must first obtain an ATT for the border crossings s/he intends to use. To enter the U.S., s/he must have a hunting license or a written invitation to a sanctioned gun competition. S/he must obtain a completed Form 6 NIA from the BATFE. I recommend avoiding the crossings in the Niagara Region and Sarnia. Certain CPB agents do not seem to grasp the legalities of the Form 6. Some Canadians are given a hard time. Some are turned around. They also have a hard time grasping American citizens returning home after a vacation... along with courtesy, manners, and a grasp of the basics of their job. |
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If a Canadian legal gun owner wishes to possess a firearm and ammunition in The U.S., s/he must first obtain an ATT for the border crossings s/he intends to use. To enter the U.S., s/he must have a hunting license or a written invitation to a sanctioned gun competition. S/he must obtain a completed Form 6 NIA from the BATFE. I recommend avoiding the crossings in the Niagara Region and Sarnia. Certain CPB agents do not seem to grasp the legalities of the Form 6. Some Canadians are given a hard time. Some are turned around. They also have a hard time grasping American citizens returning home after a vacation... along with courtesy, manners, and a grasp of the basics of their job. Thank you for adding so much to the conversation, clearly your a playwright and a scholar. |
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If a Canadian legal gun owner wishes to possess a firearm and ammunition in The U.S., s/he must first obtain an ATT for the border crossings s/he intends to use. To enter the U.S., s/he must have a hunting license or a written invitation to a sanctioned gun competition. S/he must obtain a completed Form 6 NIA from the BATFE. I recommend avoiding the crossings in the Niagara Region and Sarnia. Certain CPB agents do not seem to grasp the legalities of the Form 6. Some Canadians are given a hard time. Some are turned around. They also have a hard time grasping American citizens returning home after a vacation... along with courtesy, manners, and a grasp of the basics of their job. Thank you for adding so much to the conversation, clearly your a playwright and a scholar. It was a comment on the latter part of the post......have you ever used those crossings? |
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If a Canadian legal gun owner wishes to possess a firearm and ammunition in The U.S., s/he must first obtain an ATT for the border crossings s/he intends to use. To enter the U.S., s/he must have a hunting license or a written invitation to a sanctioned gun competition. S/he must obtain a completed Form 6 NIA from the BATFE. I recommend avoiding the crossings in the Niagara Region and Sarnia. Certain CPB agents do not seem to grasp the legalities of the Form 6. Some Canadians are given a hard time. Some are turned around. They also have a hard time grasping American citizens returning home after a vacation... along with courtesy, manners, and a grasp of the basics of their job. Thank you for adding so much to the conversation, clearly your a playwright and a scholar. It was a comment on the latter part of the post......have you ever used those crossings? Every day! Just answer yes/no to the questions and remain poilite. Learned early on just to let them do their thing and you can get out lickity split. |
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Quick question, my wife is a Newfie and her brother is coming in April to turkey hunt here in Indiana. Can he legally bring ammo back into Canada bought here in Indiana. Tks. Lot of guff in this thread but anyway, you cannot export ammunition from the US without a State Dept. export licence, or if it is shotgun ammunition, a Commerce Dept. export licence. ATF has nothing to do with exports. He can bring his firearm and ammunition in with him, provided he has an approved Form 6NIA from ATF, the hunting licence requirement to get one was dropped for Canadian visitors last year, but ATF hasn't updated the form yet. He can also buy ammunition in the US - but he cannot export it without an export licence. CBP do random checks on northbound lanes and also at the airport and you've got to declare it to them on the way out (which can be tricky at some land POEs) and show them the licence. Commerce Dept. licenses for shotgun ammo aren't that hard to get but the DSP-5 from the State Dept. is much harder. |
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If a Canadian legal gun owner wishes to possess a firearm and ammunition in The U.S., s/he must first obtain an ATT for the border crossings s/he intends to use. To enter the U.S., s/he must have a hunting license or a written invitation to a sanctioned gun competition. S/he must obtain a completed Form 6 NIA from the BATFE. I recommend avoiding the crossings in the Niagara Region and Sarnia. Certain CPB agents do not seem to grasp the legalities of the Form 6. Some Canadians are given a hard time. Some are turned around. You only need an ATT for restricted or prohibited firearms, which you wouldn't be using for turkey hunting and the hunting licence requirement for a Form 6NIA was scrapped last year. |
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Also, ammo isn't supposed to be sold no non-residents without a valid hunting permit and then they are severely limited to the number/type of rounds they can purchase. I just don't want people to think you can come down from Canada and just buy all the guns/ammo you want and take it back, thats not the case, and people do get hemmed up for it.
Washington State has a State law that requires visitors from Canada to be on a hunting trip or going to a competition, CBP enforce it at the border, so visitors to Washington are treated differently than at other POEs. You can buy any amount of ammunition as a Canadian, there is no restriction on it other than the usual Federal laws that apply to Americans. You used to have to have a hunting licence or a match invite but that was scrapped last year. And only a couple of times can I remember anyone actually asking to see it. However you cannot export it without an export licence. And you cannot import it into Canada over 5,000 rounds unless you have an import licence from DFAIT and the ammo is on the NRC approved list. Washington and Arizona though have State laws that require a hunting licence or match invite for non-immigrant aliens to acquire ammunition. |