Moving to Ottawa > Canada

Posted: 5/15/2011 7:53:07 AM EDT

So it looks like I'll probably be moving to Ottawa in the next few months and will be leaving most, if not all of my firearms with my in-laws back in the states.

From what I've read all rifle barrels need to be over 18.5 inches, which means that none of my AR's can come along since they all have 16 inch barrels. Having only 5 round magazines doesn't seem to make much sense for those anyway, along with all of the paperwork to get the restricted permit. I did notice while looking at Marstar Canada that they have a picture of a Norinco AR-15 with a 14.5 inch barrel. Is that allowed because it's a restricted class firearm?

http://www.marstar.ca/gf-norinco/images/CQ-a-L.jpg

I'll probably wait until I arrive in country to be buying anything, but in the meantime I would appreciate your input on what would be a good firearms choice for Canada. I would hate to miss an opportunity to buy a few new guns and be able to explain to the wife that I need them especially for this move.

I'll probably be up there for 2 to 5 years and would like some sort of home defense shotgun. Was thinking of maybe a cheap Mossberg 500 since I've already got a Remington 870 HD. My understanding is that I can't bring the Remington with me because of the magazine capacity, which I believe is 7 or 8. I'm assuming that the 5 round magazine rule doesn't apply to having one in the chamber? So any shotgun with a 5 round capacity should be ok. Please advise if I'm wrong.

I see that Garands magazine size aren't restricted and neither are Enfields, so maybe one of those would be fun too. Are there any good shooting ranges near Ottawa?

Thanks in advance!

Posted: 5/16/2011 8:10:26 PM EDT

[#1]

The "SBR" will be "restricted" meaning you can still own one, it just has a different process (read PRO-cess not PRAW-cess) than an unrestricted firearm.

RRA LAR pistol 10rd mags are GTG for your AR as far as I understand.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/restr-eng.htm

If you possess or wish to acquire a restricted firearm, here is some information you should know regarding legal requirements under the Firearms Act.

Definition of a Restricted Firearm

According to the Criminal Code, a restricted firearm is:

A handgun that is not a prohibited firearm;

A semi-automatic, centre-fire firearm with a barrel length less than 470 mm that is not a prohibited firearm;

A firearm that can fire after being reduced, by folding, telescoping or otherwise, to an overall length of less than 660 mm; and

Any firearm prescribed under the Criminal Code regulations to be restricted (including some long guns).

Summary of Key Requirements

You require a firearms licence that is valid for restricted firearms in order to possess or acquire a restricted firearm and to obtain ammunition.

You require a registration certificate issued under the Firearms Act for all firearms in your possession.

You require an Authorization to Transport, issued by your Chief Firearms Officer(CFO), in order to transport a restricted firearm from one location to another.

You must store, display and transport your firearms according to the regulations applying to restricted firearms.

Posted: 5/17/2011 7:35:17 AM EDT

[#2]

You can own short barrelled ARs in Canada. You don't need a Class 3 license to own an AR with a barrel length less than 16 inches as you do here. ARs are restricted so all you need is a Restricted license which is easy enough to get.

If you want to get a good defensive shotgun you need to speak to Dlask Arms out in Vancouver, BC, they make a very nice converted Remington 870 with an 8.5 inch barrel, other short barrel lengths are also available - again no Class 3 required.

https://www.dlaskarms.com//product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=15&osCsid=e25caddf591a7d45c23ff931b14d59e2

Posted: 5/17/2011 3:20:08 PM EDT

[#3]

That's incredible. Only 850 for that shotgun too. I might have to get one just because I can, along with a $400 norinco M1A.

I think bringing them back to the US at the end of the assignment would be a bit of a challenge, if not downright impossible.

As for the PRO-cess vs PRAW-cess, well that's going to take some getting used to...

I can live with 10 round mags, so I'll see about bringing up my existing AR's then once I get settled in and get the appropriate licenses. Hopefully the new government makes things a little easier.

Thanks for the information!

Posted: 5/17/2011 3:29:07 PM EDT

[#4]

While Canadians might not have the same social problems and crime that we have they do have a lot of bears! That short barrelled shotgun makes an ideal camp gun.

Posted: 5/18/2011 5:48:03 PM EDT

[#5]

When you get your lisence do not tell them it is for home defence.

Posted: 5/21/2011 12:27:50 PM EDT

[#6]

check out the 12" Norinco 870 clones from Canada Ammo. I bought one a couple of years ago and it's more fun then a shotgun should be allowed. No ftf issues what so ever.

They also carry the Tavor..it's not restricted. Don't ask why...

Posted: 5/22/2011 4:19:03 PM EDT

[#7]

Good call, I doubt that would go over very well! I'll make to sure that it's for hunting and bears and target practice.

Thanks for all of the great information. I was worried that moving to Canada would mean end up being some kind of firearms wasteland. Very glad that's not the case!

Posted: 5/22/2011 4:38:57 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:

Good call, I doubt that would go over very well! I'll make to sure that it's for hunting and bears and target practice.

Thanks for all of the great information. I was worried that moving to Canada would mean end up being some kind of firearms wasteland. Very glad that's not the case!

It isn't that bad..and with a conservative majority..it can only get better. You should really enjoy Ottawa..it's a great city with plenty to see and do. I highly recommend the military and aviation museums..Byward market.

Posted: 5/23/2011 7:19:27 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Good call, I doubt that would go over very well! I'll make to sure that it's for hunting and bears and target practice.

Thanks for all of the great information. I was worried that moving to Canada would mean end up being some kind of firearms wasteland. Very glad that's not the case!

There's a very vibrant shooting sports scene in Canada, a lot of people think it's a bit like Britain, but its far from it.

I hunt up in British Columbia every year and have my Canadian possession and acquisition gun license for restricted and unrestricted firearms. It might be worth you getting yours before you move up there.

Posted: 5/23/2011 4:46:43 PM EDT

[#10]

I was thinking about starting the process but saw that you had to take some classes first, which made me think that I would have to wait until I got up there.

Posted: 5/24/2011 2:10:58 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:

I was thinking about starting the process but saw that you had to take some classes first, which made me think that I would have to wait until I got up there.

For sure..don't miss out on the classes..

your lip and tongue will be bleeding by the end..

Posted: 6/2/2011 4:23:40 PM EDT

[#12]

Oh another thing, about rifle scopes. It looks like everything such as Aimpoints, Acogs, Eotechs and even Super Snipers have to stay in the States due to ITAR regulations.

Any silver lining on this cloud, such as really cheap Elcan scopes at the pawnshops? What do you guys do in the scope department? I see that Marstar has a swell lineup of Leapers...

Posted: 6/2/2011 5:59:04 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

Oh another thing, about rifle scopes. It looks like everything such as Aimpoints, Acogs, Eotechs and even Super Snipers have to stay in the States due to ITAR regulations.

Any silver lining on this cloud, such as really cheap Elcan scopes at the pawnshops? What do you guys do in the scope department? I see that Marstar has a swell lineup of Leapers...

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