Posted: 12/22/2013 3:12:51 PM EDT
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All over America, formerly prosperous communities are being transformed into crime-infested wastelands of poverty and despair. Of course the most famous example of this is Detroit. At one time, Detroit was the greatest manufacturing city that the world had ever seen and it had the highest per capita income in the entire country. But now it has become a rotting, decaying hellhole that the rest of the planet laughs at. And of course Detroit is far from alone. There are hundreds of other U.S. cities that are suffering a similar fate. In this article, the focus is going to be on Camden, New Jersey, but the truth is that there are lots of other “Detroits” and “Camdens” all over the nation. Jobs and businesses are leaving our cities at a staggering rate, and what is being left behind is poverty, crime and extreme desperation.
Earlier this month, Rolling Stone published an article that took a hard look at the nightmare conditions that exist in Camden. A city that once made Campbell’s soup and some of this nation’s most famous warships is now a national disgrace. The following are six of the best quotes out of that article… -”In September, its last supermarket closed, and the city has been declared a “food desert” by the USDA. The place is literally dying, its population having plummeted from above 120,000 in the Fifties to less than 80,000 today.” -”Their home is a city with thousands of abandoned houses but no money to demolish them, leaving whole blocks full of Ninth Ward-style wreckage to gather waste and rats.” -”With legal business mostly gone, illegal business took hold. Those hundreds of industries have been replaced by about 175 open-air drug markets, through which some quarter of a billion dollars in dope moves every year.” http://www.thedailysheeple.com/camden-new-jersey-one-of-hundreds-of-u-s-cities-that-are-turning-into-rotting-decaying-hellholes_122013 |
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...and we all "wonder" (NOT!) why the City of Camden is a s*#t hole. I was born in Camden, raised in Camden till 1976, and was a part of the "white flight" when my parents (born and raised there) got the hell out so their 7 year old and 4 1/2 year old wouldn't have to grow up in a city falling apart. Camden used to be the model city when people had owned their property and took pride in their neighborhood. Once people were "given" a place to live (not earning it) they didn't bother to take care of the property and neighborhoods fell apart. Thank you Mom and Dad. RW3 |
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Cities and 1%ers are the problem 1% ers to me mean the wealthy. They are the ones doing the carjackings? http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf |
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1% ers to me mean the wealthy. They are the ones doing the carjackings? http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf Quoted:
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Cities and 1%ers are the problem 1% ers to me mean the wealthy. They are the ones doing the carjackings? http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf Nope Thinking more like the President of BOA, Bloomberg and their crew? How many people have they hurt? How many of us have financed their lifestyles with 29% CC rates? Higher prices? The relocating of factories is not all their fault, but a big part is. |
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As a child in the 70's I used to go to Ocean Grove on the weekends. Neptune and Asbury Park looked cold and desperate. Nothing changed in the 80's and 90's, going to the clubs we had to watch our backs. Supposedly 15 or so years ago investors began putting money into Asbury and things are changing. IDK, last time I was there (about 12 years) the Phoenix club was closed, The Hitching Rail was called something else and looked more like a gay bar than it ever did, Duggins pub and the strip across the street that had the adult theater and the Down the Street Pub were completely gone. And that gogo bar in the empress hotel was also gone. It looked like the ghost town of the 70's with less architecture.
When I was a teenager and young adult I used to hang out in the lower east side/alphabet city/bowery area of Manhattan. These were the Koch/Dinkins years and it looked like post war berlin. While it was the other side of the island the movie Fort Apache the Bronx really caught the landscape of the time. It was a dirty and dangerous place. Now? Well just ask fishpaw what he pays in rent. In the early 90s I had a job that took me to just about every slum in NJ,NY, and PA.  Clearing and closing up the Ronzoni factory in long island city was closest thing to combat I'll ever see. Bricks don't make noise as there being dropped form four stories.
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Alphabet city. now that brings back memories.
Did you know Geraldo Rivera lived there with his first wife, back then (early '70's) he was unknown. Too bad he didn't stay that way. In that same period of time Hoboken was a place to stay away from. I lived in Weehawken and would drive down to Hoboken for reasons which will go unmentioned. Then one day they did away with "rent control" and real estate prices shot through the sky, this was helped by very, very low finance interest rates from the Gov. By the mid '80's you could not touch the housing market. Funny how that works. |
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Alphabet city. now that brings back memories. Did you know Geraldo Rivera lived there with his first wife, back then (early '70's) he was unknown. Too bad he didn't stay that way. In that same period of time Hoboken was a place to stay away from. I lived in Weehawken and would drive down to Hoboken for reasons which will go unmentioned. Then one day they did away with "rent control" and real estate prices shot through the sky, this was helped by very, very low finance interest rates from the Gov. By the mid '80's you could not touch the housing market. Funny how that works. Sure, It was a very puerto rican area and before them the joos. Gerald could only have come from there 
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Alphabet city. now that brings back memories. Did you know Geraldo Rivera lived there with his first wife, back then (early '70's) he was unknown. Too bad he didn't stay that way. In that same period of time Hoboken was a place to stay away from. I lived in Weehawken and would drive down to Hoboken for reasons which will go unmentioned. Then one day they did away with "rent control" and real estate prices shot through the sky, this was helped by very, very low finance interest rates from the Gov. By the mid '80's you could not touch the housing market. Funny how that works. I lived in Hoboken from 71 to 75, it was a great place, but I lived on Castle Point and you did not come up there with out my approval.... and Hobokie was a shit hole. When I came back to my trees, I saw condemantion signs go up... My buddy stayed there and rented a shotgun apartment.. He said the poor were being kicked out and yuppies were moving in |
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Nope Thinking more like the President of BOA, Bloomberg and their crew? How many people have they hurt? How many of us have financed their lifestyles with 29% CC rates? Higher prices? The relocating of factories is not all their fault, but a big part is. Quoted:
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Cities and 1%ers are the problem 1% ers to me mean the wealthy. They are the ones doing the carjackings? http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf Nope Thinking more like the President of BOA, Bloomberg and their crew? How many people have they hurt? How many of us have financed their lifestyles with 29% CC rates? Higher prices? The relocating of factories is not all their fault, but a big part is.  WTF? Nobody put a gun to anyone's head and made them finance a lifestyle with 29% CC rates. Bloomberg is a gun grabbing, authoritarian, shit stain, but not because he earned money. BOA is a shitty bank, no doubt, but no one has to do business with them.
What business in their right mind would stay in this living, breathing tax burden? What factory would survive with all the unions and their BS? Many of those factories relocated to states with lower taxes, that haven't been totally fucked by unions, if they stayed in the US at all. The only reason NJ has any productive people left is because of the thriving economy provided by NYC and its evil 1%ers. |
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Gentification. <a href="http://s32.photobucket.com/user/totalabuse/media/jhhhhg_zpsc6464a47.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/totalabuse/jhhhhg_zpsc6464a47.jpg</a>
I hope that doesn't mean: Te amo. Naw man. "the party's over" Short story shorter.... Gentrification was the buzz word associated with the Tompkins square riot in 88. The party's over logo became the banner for the squatters and such. |
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Nope, like it 1% the wealthy few , many that are inherited the position. People with no grasp of the world. Let's see Jack Lewis, BOA, I get clobbered with fees because he runs a scam, he finally got caught. But you deposit comes in and they hold it up, take out the bills you pay the 2 days later and hit you with over draft fees, I got $200 of them one month. Yes I got them reversed and the Feds slapped his wrist. Then he sees an opportunity to make more money. He puts a loan officer in an investment house. People come and borrow against their house and savings, the investment house was a ponzi scam.
He borrows money from the Fed low and loans it at 29%, read the book Conspiculous Consumption, People have fallen into the trap and consume to consume, not because they need. How the marketers started after WW2 started to sell a dream. Christie is a privledged one, look into how his brother Todd got off his insider trading charges. I went to school with a lot of rich kids. It was parties, drugs and thrill stealing... No tuition worries, guaranteed job on graduation. Now the middle class is being attacked, those that climbed out are getting kicked back, by greed, don't get me started about Trump... |
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Yea, ...and we all "wonder" (NOT!) why the City of Camden is a s*#t hole. I was born in Camden, raised in Camden till 1976, and was a part of the "white flight" when my parents (born and raised there) got the hell out so their 7 year old and 4 1/2 year old wouldn't have to grow up in a city falling apart. Camden used to be the model city when people had owned their property and took pride in their neighborhood. Once people were "given" a place to live (not earning it) they didn't bother to take care of the property and neighborhoods fell apart. Thank you Mom and Dad. RW3 I was born in Camden as well (1959). Our Family lived on Clinton Street just off Broadway till the neighborhood started to decay which was late 1960. My Dad at the time took notice of all the friends and acquaintances that lived on Clinton (which was a close knit community) leaving one behind the other and heeded one's advice to get the hell out. What a shame, because I was told Camden was a great place to live. 
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| Bobby, they were AC was great, but then they became people mills. The factories left, the shipyards closed, now they do not produce. Where is campbells soup made? RCA Victor electronics. ALL ove we do not produce like we used too. SO cities have no reason to be other than living space, recreational and paper pushing |
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Bobby, they were AC was great, but then they became people mills. The factories left, the shipyards closed, now they do not produce. Where is campbells soup made? RCA Victor electronics. ALL ove we do not produce like we used too. SO cities have no reason to be other than living space, recreational and paper pushing Did you say Campbells? Healthy Communities Focusing on our commitment to reducing childhood obesity and hunger through our signature strategic initiative We recognize that childhood obesity is a major health problem in the U.S. Today, more than 30% of our children are overweight or obese, which can lead to future health problems and associated medical and societal costs. Since its inception, Campbell has focused on health in our workplace and healthy options in our product portfolio. Campbell Healthy Camden In assessing the needs of our communities and our unique strengths as a company, we set a destination goal to help improve the health of young people in our communities by reducing childhood obesity and hunger by 50% by 2020. In 2011, we formally launched our Campbell Healthy Communities program in our home of Camden, New Jersey. We announced a commitment of $10 million over 10 years in support of our goal and hired a Director of Healthy Communities to drive our efforts in Camden and other North American Campbell communities. Our initial efforts are focused at five pilot sites in Camden, a city of 78,000 residents, 23,000 children, one full-size grocery store, 160 bodegas and significantly higher levels of childhood obesity and hunger than the national average. Our strategy focuses on four areas: Access to nutritious and fresh foods; Access to safe places to play, exercise and walk; Nutrition education – prenatal to adult; and Building public will within the community to advance real solutions. As a food company with a healthy portfolio of products, we are uniquely positioned to participate in the creation of an accessible and equitable food system in our community. We are doing this by constantly leveraging our internal expertise, integrating nutrition education throughout our program strategies and engaging the community within all aspects of our work. Despite our expertise and resources, overall success will require a collective impact approach. We have assembled a group of representatives from different sectors that express a long-term commitment to our common agenda for solving the obesity and hunger issues facing our community, including: ––The Y of Burlington and Camden Counties ––Food Bank of South Jersey ––Camden Coalition of Healthcare Providers ––The Food Trust ––Camden Children's Garden ––Greensgrow Farms ––Delaware Valley Regional Planning Commission ––The Reinvestment Fund ––Center for Hunger Free Communities ––US Soccer Foundation Our goal is to serve as a catalyst by identifying opportunities for long-term systemic change in Camden by inviting participation from other institutional donors, as well as ownership by community partners, throughout the city. Some of the current elements of this program include: ––Promoting the introduction and uptake of healthy food choices in 25 corner stores throughout Camden; ––Providing child, family and adult cooking classes to teach menu planning, smart shopping, basic cooking skills and food safety; ––Implementing the Coordinated Approach to Child Health ("C.A.T.C.H.") "train the trainer" model to institute 30 minutes of daily physical activity four days a week during the school day; ––Implementing the Pregnancy, Parenting Partners program to promote prenatal/well child visits focused on nutrition education; ––Promoting organized urban gardening on vacant, city-owned lots to increase access to healthy produce; and ––Expanding availability of seasonal produce at reasonable prices produced by local farmers, while accepting WIC, SNAP and senior coupons via mobile markets. While the program has just completed its first year, the collective work is having impacts across Camden. Highlights from the first year include: ––Provided 6.5 million minutes of physical activity to 1,400 Camden youth; ––Decreased number of injuries and behavior incidents in participating schools; ––Created 28 new sites for healthy food access in Camden; ––Provided more than 12,700 residents access to healthy, affordable foods in their neighborhoods; ––Serviced 850 Camden residents through mobile farmer's markets; ––Provided 25,260 minutes of nutrition education to children in Camden; ––Provided cooking classes to 391 children and their families where 73% of participants continue to put their new knowledge into practice at home; and ––Leveraged an additional $1 million in funds invested into Camden as a result of the Healthy Communities program and its partners. In 2013, we expect to continue to advance the program in Camden, while building modules transferable to other Campbell communities. We also plan to have baseline BMI and food security outcome measures complete for Camden in 2013. EVIL1%? NOPE |
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So Campbells left NJ just like so many of us here on this forum would like to do?
But yet Campbells sponsors the program listed on the previous page. To me that does not seem like any type of evil, in fact they are one of very few who are willing to invest anything in Camden |
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THey are not evil, it is just that when the factories and producers left Camden it started on a downward spiral, same with the shipyards.... close down, city goes to shit. AC hotels went to crap after WW2, that is when the town started to die, now you have a half ass case of CPR with the casinos... the boardwalk area is rebuilding, the rest of the town is falling apart. That is the complaint here.. that and the corrupt gang member mayor they just finally voted out.
It is not one thing, it is a combination of factors, cities hasten it though |
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Interesting thought, "we" have been sold a bill of goods by teachers unions whose rank and file tell us education will set us free, however it has had the opposite effect.
While preaching education, as in higher education, and demonizing and take "shop" courses out of HS's our culture has made a steady move to less craft people of all type and their jobs with them. I call on a plumber here and none return a call, those who do are imports, middle easterners who need jobs, take these soil hands readily available jobs and do a good job of it. The cycle of "I won"t dirty my Hands" and unemployment continues. Debt for education continues to rise, no jobs for graduates continues, crime rises not necessarily among college grads though. |
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Sort of LD, Education will get you a better life, you do need fundemental skills, such as reading and math. As for the crafts, there is a high school starting now that is supposed to do that. Problem is that they need teachers that are in the real world. I went to an Engineering college, some of the A students had no idea about the real world. My Dad was a master machinist, he taught me about making things work in the real world. I remember one plan wanted an inside weld in a pipe, it could not be done. He was always redoing designs for Dupont. We need trades too. If it can't be made, it isn't real. Ideas don't do work
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As a child in the 70's I used to go to Ocean Grove on the weekends. Neptune and Asbury Park looked cold and desperate. Nothing changed in the 80's and 90's, going to the clubs we had to watch our backs. Supposedly 15 or so years ago investors began putting money into Asbury and things are changing. IDK, last time I was there (about 12 years) the Phoenix club was closed, The Hitching Rail was called something else and looked more like a gay bar than it ever did, Duggins pub and the strip across the street that had the adult theater and the Down the Street Pub were completely gone. And that gogo bar in the empress hotel was also gone. It looked like the ghost town of the 70's with less architecture. When I was a teenager and young adult I used to hang out in the lower east side/alphabet city/bowery area of Manhattan. These were the Koch/Dinkins years and it looked like post war berlin. While it was the other side of the island the movie Fort Apache the Bronx really caught the landscape of the time. It was a dirty and dangerous place. Now? Well just ask fishpaw what he pays in rent. In the early 90s I had a job that took me to just about every slum in NJ,NY, and PA. Clearing and closing up the Ronzoni factory in long island city was closest thing to combat I'll ever see. Bricks don't make noise as there being dropped form four stories.Back in the early 90's, it was a common practice in the Highrise Projects in Newark and Jersey City to try to drop spackle buckets filled with rubble on passing Radio Cars, Fire Engines, and even Ambulances. |