Posted: 5/5/2011 12:47:26 PM EDT
| I am planning to go to a range in Jersey with a friend and want to bring a Glock with a threaded barrel, just wanted to make sure it is legal over there. Thanks in advance! |
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Can anyone give me a link to the law? I would not mind carrying a copy with me just in case I know more than the people around me  .What law? The law that says a threaded pistol barrel is legal? Doesn't exist... The only thing you can reference is a 15-year-old Attorney General guideline on what constitutes an "assault pistol":http://www.state.nj.us/lps/dcj/agguide/assltf.htm The part you're interested in is section B, which reads: B. a semi-automatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following: an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer; a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned; manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and a semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm; and, Since your pistol would only have 1 of the listed features, that being a threaded barrel, it doesn't meet the definition of an assault pistol, and is therefore legal. |
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Quoted:Since your pistol would only have 1 of the listed features, that being a threaded barrel, it doesn't meet the definition of an assault pistol, and is therefore legal.
I'm not a Glock fanboy, so I'm not familiar with all the models, but aren't there full-auto glocks? In which case he would have two evil features and thus be illegal in NJ. Maybe I'm assuming too much, but better to be safe than sorry. Adios, Pizza Bob |
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Quoted:Since your pistol would only have 1 of the listed features, that being a threaded barrel, it doesn't meet the definition of an assault pistol, and is therefore legal.
I'm not a Glock fanboy, so I'm not familiar with all the models, but aren't there full-auto glocks? In which case he would have two evil features and thus be illegal in NJ. Maybe I'm assuming too much, but better to be safe than sorry. Adios, Pizza Bob  So how would he legally obtain a full auto Glock here in the Peoples Republik of NJ????
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Quoted:Since your pistol would only have 1 of the listed features, that being a threaded barrel, it doesn't meet the definition of an assault pistol, and is therefore legal.
I'm not a Glock fanboy, so I'm not familiar with all the models, but aren't there full-auto glocks? In which case he would have two evil features and thus be illegal in NJ. Maybe I'm assuming too much, but better to be safe than sorry. Adios, Pizza Bob So how would he legally obtain a full auto Glock here in the Peoples Republik of NJ????Doesn't say that it has to be obtainable, just that there be one - which, I believe, there is. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted:Since your pistol would only have 1 of the listed features, that being a threaded barrel, it doesn't meet the definition of an assault pistol, and is therefore legal. I'm not a Glock fanboy, so I'm not familiar with all the models, but aren't there full-auto glocks? In which case he would have two evil features and thus be illegal in NJ. Maybe I'm assuming too much, but better to be safe than sorry. Adios, Pizza Bob So how would he legally obtain a full auto Glock here in the Peoples Republik of NJ????Doesn't say that it has to be obtainable, just that there be one - which, I believe, there is. The description states a "semi-automatic version of an automatic" firearm. Glocks were originally designed as semi-automatic handguns. There is a fully automatic version of the Glock 18 (18c I believe), but that is an automatic version of a semi-automatic firearm. I think what they're referring to is semi-automatic versions of some machine pistols like the TMP. Granted...I'm no lawyer. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted:Since your pistol would only have 1 of the listed features, that being a threaded barrel, it doesn't meet the definition of an assault pistol, and is therefore legal. I'm not a Glock fanboy, so I'm not familiar with all the models, but aren't there full-auto glocks? In which case he would have two evil features and thus be illegal in NJ. Maybe I'm assuming too much, but better to be safe than sorry. Adios, Pizza Bob So how would he legally obtain a full auto Glock here in the Peoples Republik of NJ????Doesn't say that it has to be obtainable, just that there be one - which, I believe, there is. The description states a "semi-automatic version of an automatic" firearm. Glocks were originally designed as semi-automatic handguns. There is a fully automatic version of the Glock 18 (18c I believe), but that is an automatic version of a semi-automatic firearm. I think what they're referring to is semi-automatic versions of some machine pistols like the TMP. Granted...I'm no lawyer. |
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You want to play semantic games with NJ law, be my guest. Most LEO's would have apoplexy if they saw a threaded barrel, regardless of what the law says, or how you want to interpret it. Me? I'd err on the side of caution - I enjoy my freedom too much, but you do as you see fit, I just wanted to point out the possible probable pitfalls.
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Quoted: Quoted:Since your pistol would only have 1 of the listed features, that being a threaded barrel, it doesn't meet the definition of an assault pistol, and is therefore legal. I'm not a Glock fanboy, so I'm not familiar with all the models, but aren't there full-auto glocks? In which case he would have two evil features and thus be illegal in NJ. Maybe I'm assuming too much, but better to be safe than sorry. Adios, Pizza Bob These laws don't apply NFA stuff. The "assault pistol" legislation in new jersey refers to semi automatic firearms such as MAC-10 style semi automatic pistols, TEC-9s, and AR pistols. Good luck getting a class 3 firearm in NJ, last I checked it is actually possible here, but like getting a CCW, its impossible |
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You want to play semantic games with NJ law, be my guest. Most LEO's would have apoplexy if they saw a threaded barrel, regardless of what the law says, or how you want to interpret it. Me? I'd err on the side of caution - I enjoy my freedom too much, but you do as you see fit, I just wanted to point out the possible probable pitfalls. Adios, Pizza Bob 
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Quoted: You want to play semantic games with NJ law, be my guest. Most LEO's would have apoplexy if they saw a threaded barrel, regardless of what the law says, or how you want to interpret it. Me? I'd err on the side of caution - I enjoy my freedom too much, but you do as you see fit, I just wanted to point out the possible probable pitfalls. Adios, Pizza Bob The point of it? I am unsure. |
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These laws don't apply NFA stuff. The "assault pistol" legislation in new jersey refers to semi automatic firearms such as MAC-10 style semi automatic pistols, TEC-9s, and AR pistols. Good luck getting a class 3 firearm in NJ, last I checked it is actually possible here, but like getting a CCW, its impossible No one's talking about acquiring Title II firearms.... you mis-read. |
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Quoted: Quoted: These laws don't apply NFA stuff. The "assault pistol" legislation in new jersey refers to semi automatic firearms such as MAC-10 style semi automatic pistols, TEC-9s, and AR pistols. Good luck getting a class 3 firearm in NJ, last I checked it is actually possible here, but like getting a CCW, its impossible No one's talking about acquiring Title II firearms.... you mis-read. I didn't misread.. if you scan through the whole thread you will see that pizzabob posted a comment asking if the glock in question is fully automatic... and does it being fully automatic count as one of the "evil features" I was just explaining the fact that if it were fully auto, the "evil features" would not even apply |
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Quoted: I didn't misread.. if you scan through the whole thread you will see that pizzabob posted a comment asking if the glock in question is fully automatic... and does it being fully automatic count as one of the "evil features"
I was just explaining the fact that if it were fully auto, the "evil features" would not even applyYes, you did. I asked a general question as to whether full-auto versions of Glocks exist. The law simply says that if that is the case it counts as an evil feature. Neither the law, nor I, have anything to say about the weapon in question. My interpretation is that it meets the definition of an assault pistol by virtue of having two of the delineated evil features: 1) The threaded barrel; and, 2) The fact that full-auto Glocks exist. Others see it differently, thus it comes down to semantics. Clear? Adios, Pizza Bob |
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I didn't misread.. if you scan through the whole thread you will see that pizzabob posted a comment asking if the glock in question is fully automatic... and does it being fully automatic count as one of the "evil features" I was just explaining the fact that if it were fully auto, the "evil features" would not even apply
I respectfully disagree.... he was asking could a semi-auto Glock be considered "a semi-automatic version of an automatic weapon", since the Glock18 is a FA firearm. Therefore, the semi-auto Glock would be "a semi-auto version of an automatic weapon" (strike 1), and have a threaded barrel (strike 2). |
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Quoted: Quoted: I didn't misread.. if you scan through the whole thread you will see that pizzabob posted a comment asking if the glock in question is fully automatic... and does it being fully automatic count as one of the "evil features" I was just explaining the fact that if it were fully auto, the "evil features" would not even applyYes, you did. I asked a general question as to whether full-auto versions of Glocks exist. The law simply says that if that is the case it counts as an evil feature. Neither the law, nor I, have anything to say about the weapon in question. My interpretation is that it meets the definition of an assault pistol by virtue of having two of the delineated evil features: 1) The threaded barrel; and, 2) The fact that full-auto Glocks exist. Others see it differently, thus it comes down to semantics. Clear? Adios, Pizza Bob clear |
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You want to play semantic games with NJ law, be my guest. Most LEO's would have apoplexy if they saw a threaded barrel, regardless of what the law says, or how you want to interpret it. Me? I'd err on the side of caution - I enjoy my freedom too much, but you do as you see fit, I just wanted to point out the possible probable pitfalls. Adios, Pizza Bob No, they wont..but hey if you're that afraid of a pergectly legal firearm,....dont buy one. |
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Most LEO's would have apoplexy if they saw a threaded barrel, regardless of what the law says Pizza Bob No, they wont..but hey if you're that afraid of a pergectly legal firearm,....dont buy one. I must agree, as I was shooting a Glock with a threaded barrel at two classes two weeks ago, and some of the students were LE, and no one had any problem with it at all. By the way, for any of you that know me, and what my legal opinion is worth, I am completely comfortable with a threaded pistol barrel
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Most LEO's would have apoplexy if they saw a threaded barrel, regardless of what the law says Pizza Bob No, they wont..but hey if you're that afraid of a pergectly legal firearm,....dont buy one. I must agree, as I was shooting a Glock with a threaded barrel at two classes two weeks ago, and some of the students were LE, and no one had any problem with it at all. By the way, for any of you that know me, and what my legal opinion is worth, I am completely comfortable with a threaded pistol barrel I'm newish so I don't but is that a good thing or a bad thing? Would you have been painting my fingertips black or standing next to me in front of his honor? |
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I'm newish so I don't but is that a good thing or a bad thing? Would you have been painting my fingertips black or standing next to me in front of his honor? I am guy who used to stand next to people in front of his honor, but hate to admit it considering the public's justifiably bad opinion of attorneys 
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