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10/31/2011 1:30:17 PM EDT
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LOWER RECEIVER ASSEMBLY SPEC


SGC 9mm MK6 7075-T6 ALLOY LOWER RECEIVER HARD ANOD TO MIL STD


CAA CARBINE MULTI POSITION BUTTSTOCK M4 STYLE WITH BATT STORAGE


SGC 9mm LOWER RECEIVER PARTS SGC 9mm FIRING PIN


SGC 9mm TRIGGER


SGC A2 PISTOL GRIP


SGC SAFE / FIRE SELECTOR


SGC STANDARD MAG RELEASE


SGC/GLOCK 9mm MAGAZINE 17 ROUND CAPACITY 33 ROUND OPTIONAL


INTEGRAL MACHINED TRIGGER GUARD
UPPER RECEIVER ASSEMBLY SPEC


SGC 9Mmm 7075-T6 ALLOY FLAT-TOP UPPER RECEIVER HARD ANOD TO MIL STD


SGC 9mm ONE PIECE BOLT/CARRIER


SGC 9mm FIRING PIN


BARREL 1 IN 19 TWIST OR 1 IN 10 TWIST 12" OR 18" OPTIONAL THREADING


BARREL FEATURES NITROTEC SURFACING


BIRMINGHAM PROOF HOUSE TESTED


CALIBRE 9mm x 19mm NATO


STANDARD FREEFLOAT FOREND


OPTIONAL AMBI MAG RELEASE @ £98.00 EXTRA


OPTIONAL SGC QUICK RELEASE 4 RAIL FOREND @ £172.80 EXTRA


OPTIONAL LEFT HAND VERSION ( RIGHT HANDED LEVER RELEASE LOCATION) PLUS £102.13


OPTIONAL 33 ROUND MAGS @ £49.50


OPTIONAL KNS BIPOD @ £220.00
GENERAL


WEIGHT 3.0 KG AS SHOWN NO AMMUNITION


STANDARD RIFLE PRICE £1350.00 INCL VAT @ 20%





PHOTO SHOWS LOWER RECEIVER IN THE 'WHITE' PRIOR TO HC ANODISING



 
10/31/2011 1:41:04 PM EDT
[#1]
What is this about?
10/31/2011 1:47:49 PM EDT
[#2]
It's about a new model of gun available. This is a gun site you know, and some people like them.....
10/31/2011 2:09:21 PM EDT
[#3]
Intresting, I own the old verion. That looks good but im not buying another unless he does them in .45 acp
10/31/2011 2:12:03 PM EDT
[#4]
Glock magazines are a good idea. The aesthetics (yes, I understand the lower is unfinished) look like typical SGC! Hope they produce one in 10mm Auto at some point, if it's possible.

10/31/2011 2:13:39 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Intresting, I own the old verion. That looks good but im not buying another unless he does them in .45 acp


[drool] 45ACP [/drool] - esp. if it used grease gun mags = full of win!!

ETA:

Just seen the pics, thought it was a standard carbine mag lower = even more WIN if they use Glock 45 mags!!
10/31/2011 2:18:54 PM EDT
[#6]
Looks like Bob's had let some 6th former Design Tech work experience student have a go on Solidworx .. that is fugly  
10/31/2011 2:19:37 PM EDT
[#7]
Or even a .223 version.

If blowback self ejecting is ok, then gas self ejecting should be too.



10/31/2011 2:30:03 PM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:


Or even a .223 version.



If blowback self ejecting is ok, then gas self ejecting should be too.









..and them someone decides that it isn't and then decides that actually maybe all 'millitary looking' rifles are a bad idea in general (not helped by the rise of the 22LR plastic-fantastic Walts for that matter) ..... Not that I have a qualified opinion, but it seems to me that  Bob has been lucky not to have had things go the other way.. that would be a step even further along that path I think.
10/31/2011 2:45:31 PM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:





Quoted:

Or even a .223 version.



If blowback self ejecting is ok, then gas self ejecting should be too.









..and them someone decides that it isn't and then decides that actually maybe all 'millitary looking' rifles are a bad idea in general (not helped by the rise of the 22LR plastic-fantastic Walts for that matter) ..... Not that I have a qualified opinion, but it seems to me that  Bob has been lucky not to have had things go the other way.. that would be a step even further along that path I think.
Yes he was lucky. On the other hand it could be construed as a positive indication that the final ACPO decision, endorsed by the Home Office, was that the Lever Release is acceptable...



Personally I have no desire for one in a pistol calibre, but do not decry those that find them desirable..





 
10/31/2011 2:52:58 PM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:





Quoted:




Quoted:

Or even a .223 version.



If blowback self ejecting is ok, then gas self ejecting should be too.









..and them someone decides that it isn't and then decides that actually maybe all 'millitary looking' rifles are a bad idea in general (not helped by the rise of the 22LR plastic-fantastic Walts for that matter) ..... Not that I have a qualified opinion, but it seems to me that  Bob has been lucky not to have had things go the other way.. that would be a step even further along that path I think.
Yes he was lucky. On the other hand it could be construed as a positive indication that the final ACPO decision, endorsed by the Home Office, was that the Lever Release is acceptable...



Personally I have no desire for one in a pistol calibre, but do not decry those that find them desirable..



 
Agreed, but the way of things means I bet it would get very quickly reversed if someone found it politically expedient to do so.. I'm all for progress too and where rules are ill defined then its good that they are tested...  Its a matter of good judgement though when to walk away from the table and bank your winnings for another day.



 





10/31/2011 2:58:49 PM EDT
[#11]
The thing is, according to GD, 10mm could be even more devastating than .17HMR



I'd like something in 10mm simply to say that I have something in 10mm. I have no idea why. I think it's just the name.



I don't think I've ever come across something 10mm in the UK (as Section 1), is there actually anything?



Or, for Spinal Tap fans, something in 11mm
10/31/2011 3:14:38 PM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:


The thing is, according to GD, 10mm could be even more devastating than .17HMR



I'd like something in 10mm simply to say that I have something in 10mm. I have no idea why. I think it's just the name.



I don't think I've ever come across something 10mm in the UK (as Section 1), is there actually anything?



Or, for Spinal Tap fans, something in 11mm


http://bbgunsuk.co.uk/splatmatic-1000-.40-calibre-paintballs-for-blowguns.html

 





10/31/2011 3:23:10 PM EDT
[#13]
If he could design one in a centrefire calibre, I wouldn't be concerned about it provoking restrictions on currently legal firearms. It might well be prohibited from ever being sold, simply because of the potential reaction stemming from existing laws on CF self-loaders. In the past, numerous companies and individuals have sold firearms which hit legal trouble, and it generally ended with a block on further sales, sometimes even the supplier being prosecuted, but not often additional bans.

The 9X19mm versions have been subject to a lot of attention from the law, remained legal, and continue being sold. They will probably be quite a common sight within several years (already are on some ranges), and I'm constantly coming across people interested in purchasing one, or in the process of doing so.

If we end up in the situation where a more anti-gun government is elected (I think the current lot has acted quite reasonably, considering past events), then there are plenty of targets for them if looking to enact vote winning rubbish. Although it sounds morbid, I would be far more concerned about what the media decided to latch-on in the event of another mass shooting. SLRs and pistols both went in large part due to such events, air-cartridge due to low-level criminal usage and murders.

Anyway, I thought Bob had ruled out producing them in calibres such as .223/5.56?

Quoted:
I don't think I've ever come across something 10mm in the UK (as Section 1), is there actually anything?


Armalon offered/offers their carbines in 10mm, even .50AE, I think. Occasionally reloading components are available at the Phoenix.
10/31/2011 10:30:27 PM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:


It's about a new model of gun available. This is a gun site you know, and some people like them.....


Looks like I obviously didn't pay much attention to your post

 



Couldn't figure out where it came from
11/1/2011 12:07:48 AM EDT
[#15]
But if you bought one you would have to get one of these too:
Tired thumb
11/1/2011 1:01:16 AM EDT
[#16]
I'd imagine one of these chambered for .30 carbine would be rather nice. With the case shape being the way it is, I'd imagine that the blowback system would still be able to work as it does currently?

Am I correct or have I got it arse-on-it's-head-backwards?
11/1/2011 10:33:37 AM EDT
[#17]
This nunicorn is probably down to the fact bob is having issues getting uzi mags
well thats what he told me anyway!
Its nasty looking
11/1/2011 11:48:22 AM EDT
[#18]
No need for uzi mags - get 100rnd beta drum , works a dream ;)
11/1/2011 12:39:04 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
No need for uzi mags - get 100rnd beta drum , works a dream ;)


your not using that in the comp saturday
11/1/2011 12:46:50 PM EDT
[#20]



Quoted:





Quoted:

It's about a new model of gun available. This is a gun site you know, and some people like them.....


Looks like I obviously didn't pay much attention to your post  



Couldn't figure out where it came from


I have the same affect on women....................

 
11/1/2011 12:59:01 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
No need for uzi mags - get 100rnd beta drum , works a dream ;)


your not using that in the comp saturday


Well looks whos back and decided to pop on by and see whats going on.
I suspect we will be rained off Saturday but if not i may decide to unleash the beta - such happy days
11/1/2011 1:10:32 PM EDT
[#22]
the rain can't be any worse than in spain. it pissed down
11/1/2011 2:20:59 PM EDT
[#23]








Hey now, .40 is the girls' version




Edited to add: maybe I should ring them up and ask if they do a version in 10mm





 
11/10/2011 7:19:29 AM EDT
[#24]
Price has shot up (pardon the pun) now £1524 and very bling

11/10/2011 7:25:09 AM EDT
[#25]
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Price has shot up (pardon the pun) now £1524 and very bling

http://www.southern-gun.co.uk/file/images/SGC%20LR9G%20P1000339%20SHORT.jpg


These are shown 'in the white', so when they are finished the silver bit will look more black.

You could always ask for it to be annodised with a gold finish
11/10/2011 8:23:47 AM EDT
[#26]
I tried squinting a bit, then a lot.........but I still see an AR eating a Glock........each to their own..



Reloads should be fast though and you can use your pistol mag pouches...
11/15/2011 12:02:09 PM EDT
[#27]


Not a new idea
11/15/2011 12:11:59 PM EDT
[#28]


No, but if it means for him getting easily available mags from Europe rather than the ITAR restricted US, then maybe not a bad one
11/15/2011 12:19:30 PM EDT
[#29]


Mmm, .40 cal

11/15/2011 12:21:11 PM EDT
[#30]


Mmm, .40 cal



^ what he said  
11/17/2011 1:42:05 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
This nunicorn is probably down to the fact bob is having issues getting uzi mags
well thats what he told me anyway!
Its nasty looking


Helston's have crates of 9mm Uzi mags and they are only 40 miles from Bob, would have been easier than re-designing a rifle.
11/17/2011 2:25:58 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
This nunicorn is probably down to the fact bob is having issues getting uzi mags
well thats what he told me anyway!
Its nasty looking


Helston's have crates of 9mm Uzi mags and they are only 40 miles from Bob, would have been easier than re-designing a rifle.


I think even Bob has more sense than to deal with Helston's, who judging by past experiences have probably self-classified those mags as S5
11/17/2011 2:29:31 AM EDT
[#33]
If Bob can design and manufacture the lever release function, why can't he manufacture his own magazines? Is there a legal restriction on mag making?
11/17/2011 2:44:38 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
If Bob can design and manufacture the lever release function, why can't he manufacture his own magazines? Is there a legal restriction on mag making?


nope, just a skill restriction!
11/17/2011 3:18:34 AM EDT
[#35]
He does make his own mags for the v22 and .30 carbine ...Cnc jobs that are Also very heavy....I'd rather have a glock or Uzi mag

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11/17/2011 3:31:33 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
He does make his own mags for the v22 and .30 carbine ...Cnc jobs that are Also very heavy....I'd rather have a glock or Uzi mag

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I personally can't see what the problem is.
If Uzi mags were as readily available as Glock ones he would probably continue fo use those, but as I don know his reasons, I'm only assuming this to be the case.
Both aren't that aesthetically appealing so what does that matter?
UZiholds 32rds, Glock holds 33. No difference there.

I think the main reason here is that given the choice between a donkeys years old Uzi mag and a nice new polymer offering from Glock is the fact that the word Uzi gives some people a chubby
11/17/2011 3:37:37 AM EDT
[#37]



Quoted:



Quoted:

If Bob can design and manufacture the lever release function, why can't he manufacture his own magazines? Is there a legal restriction on mag making?




nope, just a skill restriction!


I've occasionally wondered (not knowing anything about sheet metal forming) how difficult mags are to do.. tolerances and characteristics of the stock (like feed lips) are presumably the difficult thing?

 
11/17/2011 4:26:55 AM EDT
[#38]
it depends on the cartridge and the form of the lips, sinlge or double stack etc,

polymer is easier to work with,

11/17/2011 4:48:20 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
it depends on the cartridge and the form of the lips, sinlge or double stack etc,

polymer is easier to work with,



Many a platform has suffered from shite mags over the years.
11/17/2011 6:23:42 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Quoted:
it depends on the cartridge and the form of the lips, sinlge or double stack etc,

polymer is easier to work with,



Many a platform has suffered from shite mags over the years.


Bren10