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9/24/2011 9:27:14 AM EDT
Has anybody had any experience with the Steyr AUG SP? are they worth considering as an alternative
to AR (probably not the right place to ask!)
9/24/2011 9:41:55 AM EDT
[#1]
I have nothing productive to bring to the discussion, but I've heard tell of a man who might know the answer to all your questions...




9/24/2011 10:04:43 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Has anybody had any experience with the Steyr AUG SP? are they worth considering as an alternative
to AR (probably not the right place to ask!)


They are great piece of kit.....HOWEVER they are not certainly an alternative to 'Bradley Arms AR'

AR's are custom built to your spec, designed for 'straight pull' operation, competition equipment..
STEYR AUG is factory kit, it is what it is with lots of fun factor...

my two pence worth
9/24/2011 11:18:28 AM EDT
[#3]
From what i read, heavy and long trigger pull is the order of the day with an AUG.
Don't have an AR as yet (want two actually; .22lr and .223), but i would be tempted to carry on saving for an AR.

E.
9/24/2011 1:41:09 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Has anybody had any experience with the Steyr AUG SP? are they worth considering as an alternative
to AR (probably not the right place to ask!)


Yes, it has been extremely reliable and very accurate. The main downsides to them are the left-hand cocking, difficulty/expense in fitting a bipod, and the factory trigger is also poor. I also found it didn't extract milsurp particularly well, but I reload almost all my ammunition these days.

Maybe, although not as a competitive rifle for shooting competitions. You could remedy a fair few issues with them and have something which should work fairly well, but the cost of such an endeavour would mean the price added up a fair bit. If you were planning on hunting with it, I'd choose the AUG instead.

In terms of what to alter on them, I'd say:

New trigger unit
Extended cocking-handle
AUG Z Sporthandschutz (to fit accessories in place of the VFG)

Apparently it might be possible to alter them to R/H cocking. It would probably be a fiddly project, but I have seen it done with other straight-pull designs.

They are one of the best bullpup designs in their class. The bullpup configuration itself is proving to be very popularly internationally.

I should have one at the next CSR shoot at Bisley. As said, they aren't ideal for that sort of shooting, but time and money means my other rifle isn't properly equipped for it yet. You're welcome to test it, provided you have all the paperwork and there is time to get up the zero range or something.
9/24/2011 9:29:50 PM EDT
[#5]
As already said it is what it is, a factory SP.









I have the trigger tamer and the railed handguard in place of the vertical grip, also have the quick change barrel mechanism in place. Mine has no issues with surp ammunition, so how  does it compare to my BAR223? it doesn't and was never intended to, but it's a lot of fun


 
9/24/2011 11:42:17 PM EDT
[#6]
Shot a semi AUG Z a couple of years ago at a shootout we had at Jægerspris camp, precise, well made kit. The "Sproinnnnng!!" sound from the stock is very much louder than with an AR, a bit unnerving....

Oh, darn! You don't shoot semis, so it won't bother anyhow...











Soren
9/25/2011 4:43:23 AM EDT
[#7]
It's not really like for like comparison. There is so much aftermarket stuff available to trick up your AR, they aren't that representative of the factory item. Also, AR's lend themselves far more readily to what we have to do with them, ie straight-pull conversion.



If you take a factory AUG 3 and a factory M16 A2, both in their intended semi/full auto configuration, I'd take the AUG every time, imho.
9/25/2011 8:33:25 AM EDT
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It's not really like for like comparison. There is so much aftermarket stuff available to trick up your AR, they aren't that representative of the factory item. Also, AR's lend themselves far more readily to what we have to do with them, ie straight-pull conversion.

If you take a factory AUG 3 and a factory M16 A2, both in their intended semi/full auto configuration, I'd take the AUG every time, imho.


That's sums it up very well, although one day, unless the market advances to new technology and calibres, I think there will be a resonable amount of aftermarket components. Another very important factor is whether or not production restarts for the American market.

9/25/2011 9:03:52 AM EDT
[#9]
This AUG is a lucky one...

Soren
9/25/2011 9:03:58 AM EDT
[#10]
Love mine to bits, just fitted a neu-trigger to it, much smoother.

Make sure if you buy one you get a cocking handle mod fitted, saves a lot of skin.
9/25/2011 9:14:48 AM EDT
[#11]
Old bob has started to do a RH cocking conversion for the AUG

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9/25/2011 9:45:31 AM EDT
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Old bob has started to do a RH cocking conversion for the AUG

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You wouldn't happen to know the cost? Thanks.

9/26/2011 10:22:33 AM EDT
[#13]
Thanks guys. great info. Just out of curiosity what are the real world benefits/drawbacks of a shorter rifle?
9/26/2011 2:39:11 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Thanks guys. great info. Just out of curiosity what are the real world benefits/drawbacks of a shorter rifle?


In terms of sport, many find that a full length firearm in standard rifle configuration, and with a fair bit of weight behind it, provides a steadier platform. I was taught to shoot with a 14.1/2lbs, 44" inch long rifle, and shooting that for a couple of hours, unsupported, was not especially comfortable. Personally I prefer my arms to not begin tiring whilst sorting out my shooting position, breathing, and sight alignment.

So, basically, the short, light rifles are not necessarily as steady or balanced. It depends what works for you. I suppose the idea of a bullpup design is that it gives a short OAL without sacrificing barrel length, no folding or telescopic stocks to fiddle with, etc.

Ergonomically, Steyr did quite a good job with the AUG. The balance isn't horrible, they shoulder well, and the controls are decent. The magazine release can be unpopular, but my tip would be to operate it with the back of another magazine, allowing the fitted to mag to just drop free.