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6/28/2011 2:46:08 AM EDT
Ok Newbie question follows



If I am zero'd at 100 whats the best form:

- adjust sights at 75/50/25?  

- aim off?

- or just go for it and aim centre mass?



from a 100 yd zero, my bollixistal calculator says there is only about 0.5-1.5 inch difference at 50/25 does that sound about right?



How do the cool kids do it?



Thanks in advance for your wisdom


6/28/2011 2:55:09 AM EDT
[#1]
I find that at 25 yds I use a 300 zero, at 100 I use a 100 zero and in between various aim offs.
6/28/2011 3:34:47 AM EDT
[#2]
Depends how high your scope is above the barrel
There's bugger all difference at 75
for me it's 2-3 inches off at 50 and 4-5 at 25.( aim progressively higher.....)
6/28/2011 4:26:39 AM EDT
[#3]
The same as the others said.

Also, by the time you're at 50 or 25 yds you can see where your shots fall and make an allowance anyway.
6/28/2011 5:05:41 AM EDT
[#4]
Thanks Guys! much appreciated.



me rifle is zero'd at 300.



so the plan is:



at 100 and 75 use my 100 yd sight setting - aim centre

at 50 aim 2-3 inch high

at 25 return sights to zero - aim centre.




6/28/2011 5:09:46 AM EDT
[#5]
A more scientific approach...


6/28/2011 5:27:42 AM EDT
[#6]


Just carry your laptop/ipad and hope you get enough time to adjust between exposures.

For a quick settings
Use a 100 zero for 100 and 75,
use 200 for 50
and set 300 for 25.

Or better still use an ACOG.

6/28/2011 5:42:07 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:


Just carry your laptop/ipad and hope you get enough time to adjust between exposures.

For a quick settings
Use a 100 zero for 100 and 75,
use 200 for 50
and set 300 for 25.

Or better still use an ACOG.



Or even better still turn up and shoot it, rather than talking about shooting it

6/28/2011 5:51:22 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:


Just carry your laptop/ipad and hope you get enough time to adjust between exposures.

For a quick settings
Use a 100 zero for 100 and 75,
use 200 for 50
and set 300 for 25.

Or better still use an ACOG.



Or even better still turn up and shoot it, rather than talking about shooting it



But it's raining.....
6/28/2011 7:13:38 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Just carry your laptop/ipad and hope you get enough time to adjust between exposures.

For a quick settings
Use a 100 zero for 100 and 75,
use 200 for 50
and set 300 for 25.

Or better still use an ACOG.



Or even better still turn up and shoot it, rather than talking about shooting it



But it's raining.....


It's always raining somewhere.......
6/28/2011 9:04:31 AM EDT
[#10]
With a 300 zero, aim off for me are:

100- 90mm underneath centre( bottom ring of fig 11)
75- 70mm underneath centre ( blue ring fig 11)
50- straight in
25- 25mm above centre( brim of helmet on fig 14)

7/9/2011 3:28:51 AM EDT
[#11]
Sooooo having watched you lot having fun I have a stupid question.

Could I shoot that along side you big boy calibres with a .22 semi, obviously scoring isn't important, just for the shooting experience?

Andy.
7/9/2011 3:50:12 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Sooooo having watched you lot having fun I have a stupid question.

Could I shoot that along side you big boy calibres with a .22 semi, obviously scoring isn't important, just for the shooting experience?

Andy.


Probably, but the Fibua is only shot once a year at the moment I believe and you've just missed it
7/9/2011 5:51:49 AM EDT
[#13]





Quoted:





Quoted:


Sooooo having watched you lot having fun I have a stupid question.





Could I shoot that along side you big boy calibres with a .22 semi, obviously scoring isn't important, just for the shooting experience?





Andy.






Probably, but the Fibua is only shot once a year at the moment I believe and you've just missed it



I raised this a few years back, because of the scoring zones being relatively large for the relevant ranges, I think you could shoot this quite well with a semi-auto .22, unless there were really strong winds.and it would be a lot of fun, I was politely ignored.....


 
7/9/2011 5:59:31 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Sooooo having watched you lot having fun I have a stupid question.

Could I shoot that along side you big boy calibres with a .22 semi, obviously scoring isn't important, just for the shooting experience?

Andy.


Probably, but the Fibua is only shot once a year at the moment I believe and you've just missed it

I raised this a few years back, because of the scoring zones being relatively large for the relevant ranges, I think you could shoot this quite well with a semi-auto .22, unless there were really strong winds.and it would be a lot of fun, I was politely ignored.....  


Shame. I can't see me getting a .223 any time soon.

Andy.
7/9/2011 6:08:50 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
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Quoted:
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Sooooo having watched you lot having fun I have a stupid question.

Could I shoot that along side you big boy calibres with a .22 semi, obviously scoring isn't important, just for the shooting experience?

Andy.


Probably, but the Fibua is only shot once a year at the moment I believe and you've just missed it

I raised this a few years back, because of the scoring zones being relatively large for the relevant ranges, I think you could shoot this quite well with a semi-auto .22, unless there were really strong winds.and it would be a lot of fun, I was politely ignored.....  


Shame. I can't see me getting a .223 any time soon.

Andy.


Borrow...
7/9/2011 6:15:34 AM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:




Quoted:


Quoted:

Sooooo having watched you lot having fun I have a stupid question.



Could I shoot that along side you big boy calibres with a .22 semi, obviously scoring isn't important, just for the shooting experience?



Andy.




Probably, but the Fibua is only shot once a year at the moment I believe and you've just missed it


I raised this a few years back, because of the scoring zones being relatively large for the relevant ranges, I think you could shoot this quite well with a semi-auto .22, unless there were really strong winds.and it would be a lot of fun, I was politely ignored.....  




Shame. I can't see me getting a .223 any time soon.



Andy.




Borrow...

That's it, just get a slot for one for the time being. You're welcome to borrow mine if I ever get to a match.





 
7/9/2011 12:54:40 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Sooooo having watched you lot having fun I have a stupid question.

Could I shoot that along side you big boy calibres with a .22 semi, obviously scoring isn't important, just for the shooting experience?

Andy.


Yes, but only if there is room on a detail
7/9/2011 12:55:01 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sooooo having watched you lot having fun I have a stupid question.

Could I shoot that along side you big boy calibres with a .22 semi, obviously scoring isn't important, just for the shooting experience?

Andy.


Probably, but the Fibua is only shot once a year at the moment I believe and you've just missed it


That may change
7/9/2011 12:57:28 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sooooo having watched you lot having fun I have a stupid question.

Could I shoot that along side you big boy calibres with a .22 semi, obviously scoring isn't important, just for the shooting experience?

Andy.


Probably, but the Fibua is only shot once a year at the moment I believe and you've just missed it


That may change


I was hoping you might say that
7/9/2011 1:07:41 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sooooo having watched you lot having fun I have a stupid question.

Could I shoot that along side you big boy calibres with a .22 semi, obviously scoring isn't important, just for the shooting experience?

Andy.


Probably, but the Fibua is only shot once a year at the moment I believe and you've just missed it


That may change


I was hoping you might say that


Yes, well FIBUA, MOUT, Urban Contact, or my favourite acronym FISH is proving to be extremely popular, and rightly so.....coz it's bloody good fun
7/9/2011 1:19:43 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sooooo having watched you lot having fun I have a stupid question.

Could I shoot that along side you big boy calibres with a .22 semi, obviously scoring isn't important, just for the shooting experience?

Andy.


Probably, but the Fibua is only shot once a year at the moment I believe and you've just missed it


That may change


I was hoping you might say that


Yes, well FIBUA, MOUT, Urban Contact, or my favourite acronym FISH is proving to be extremely popular, and rightly so.....coz it's bloody good fun


"Fighting in Built Up Areas" I get, but what is FISH? "Fighting In Silly Hats"?!?
7/9/2011 1:22:05 PM EDT
[#22]
Fighting In Someone's House
7/9/2011 1:22:50 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Fighting In Someone's House


Yup
7/9/2011 1:26:55 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Fighting In Someone's House


Not sure a shoothouse will fit in a sub...

linkage
7/9/2011 1:36:52 PM EDT
[#25]
Cheers, all sounding good.

Andy.
7/9/2011 1:45:35 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Fighting In Someone's House


Yup


FISH and CHIPS........
7/9/2011 2:39:03 PM EDT
[#27]
When we shot the match on Nelson range, Pirbright a couple of years ago it was awesome

Nelson has 20 or 25 lanes (can't quite remember) and everyone blazed through it with big grins

Because we had so many lanes, we were done in a couple of details with loads of time to spare, so...when we asked if anyone fancied a reshoot as the range was still ours.......all you could see was people heading back to their bags and the sweet joyful sound of mags being re-stuffed

It was great, unfortunately Nelson is pretty unique anywhere, and thus in high demand from the Military.....which is a shame for us civvies

Still, the NSC do us proud with the range they build us on Running Deer, although as it's so popular on weekends, there aren't any weekend bookings available for us to hire it...
7/9/2011 9:44:37 PM EDT
[#28]
Can any one post a picture of the range build used ?

Were you allowed fire & movement ?

Thanks a lot
7/9/2011 11:03:49 PM EDT
[#29]
The current Civ CoF doesn't need FM. However the current Mil CoF does. The reason the current CoF isn't fired is that it requires 2x20 Rnd magazines; and not all can play at that for the Imperial. Future (non-Imperial) matches may well use the current CoF as it falls within the remit granted to Civ SR by the NRA.

7/9/2011 11:37:56 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
When we shot the match on Nelson range, Pirbright a couple of years ago it was awesome

Nelson has 20 or 25 lanes (can't quite remember) and everyone blazed through it with big grins

Because we had so many lanes, we were done in a couple of details with loads of time to spare, so...when we asked if anyone fancied a reshoot as the range was still ours.......all you could see was people heading back to their bags and the sweet joyful sound of mags being re-stuffed

It was great, unfortunately Nelson is pretty unique anywhere, and thus in high demand from the Military.....which is a shame for us civvies

Still, the NSC do us proud with the range they build us on Running Deer, although as it's so popular on weekends, there aren't any weekend bookings available for us to hire it...


Yeah that was great fun
7/9/2011 11:42:17 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Quoted:
When we shot the match on Nelson range, Pirbright a couple of years ago it was awesome

Nelson has 20 or 25 lanes (can't quite remember) and everyone blazed through it with big grins

Because we had so many lanes, we were done in a couple of details with loads of time to spare, so...when we asked if anyone fancied a reshoot as the range was still ours.......all you could see was people heading back to their bags and the sweet joyful sound of mags being re-stuffed

It was great, unfortunately Nelson is pretty unique anywhere, and thus in high demand from the Military.....which is a shame for us civvies

Still, the NSC do us proud with the range they build us on Running Deer, although as it's so popular on weekends, there aren't any weekend bookings available for us to hire it...


Yeah that was great fun


Youtube 1

Youtube 2

Youtube 3

Youtube 4


Vids courtesy of LoneSniper (There's loads more videos on his channel too)
7/10/2011 3:26:22 AM EDT
[#32]
Watching video 4..
Despite repeated persuasion from his pal George, Strangely Brown blithely continues to shoot from the wrong lane



Also found this link,


Best falling plates final Evarrr  



7/10/2011 1:34:04 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
When we shot the match on Nelson range, Pirbright a couple of years ago it was awesome

Nelson has 20 or 25 lanes (can't quite remember) and everyone blazed through it with big grins

Because we had so many lanes, we were done in a couple of details with loads of time to spare, so...when we asked if anyone fancied a reshoot as the range was still ours.......all you could see was people heading back to their bags and the sweet joyful sound of mags being re-stuffed

It was great, unfortunately Nelson is pretty unique anywhere, and thus in high demand from the Military.....which is a shame for us civvies

Still, the NSC do us proud with the range they build us on Running Deer, although as it's so popular on weekends, there aren't any weekend bookings available for us to hire it...



That day on Nelson was also the hottest day of the year, the temperature was in the 90's and after at least 3 more reshoots my rifle was steaming, even the float tube was hot !

7/10/2011 3:23:33 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Watching video 4..Despite repeated persuasion from his pal George, Strangely Brown blithely continues to shoot from the wrong lane


You do me a disservice Bradders; the bloke in the wrong lane who George is trying to point out his mistake to is Neil B****, I wondered why he didn't shoot last year or this.......



7/10/2011 3:41:28 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Watching video 4..Despite repeated persuasion from his pal George, Strangely Brown blithely continues to shoot from the wrong lane


You do me a disservice Bradders; the bloke in the wrong lane who George is trying to point out his mistake to is Neil B****, I wondered why he didn't shoot last year or this.......





Neil B****, if it's the same one has never shot the CSR champs, besides he shoots a scoped Remington
I still say it's you
7/10/2011 3:55:04 PM EDT
[#36]
Check your IM.
7/10/2011 3:55:48 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Check your IM.


Cheers, wrong Neil
I stand corrected, can you believe that?
7/10/2011 3:57:23 PM EDT
[#38]
I find that difficult to believe!

Did you tell me you won the Nationals one year?