[ARCHIVED THREAD] - CSR's back (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 9/10/2010 1:21:54 AM EDT
 Sat 9th Oct First match of the new CSR league, also part of the HRA Nationals, also a round of the PR league Be there  |
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Yah! Looking forward to the CSR season, have missed standing in the rain and running through puddles. Should be a great weekend.
Did you mean to write........ 'have Missus standing in the rain and running through puddles !' She'll love coming to CSR.... I bet we meet her........................once 
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9th?..............  9th? 
If it's separate am & pm comps could do am only, but then that's a 250 mile round trip for a morning's shoot 
They are separate but....if it's for the HRA club champs it's all one match If it's for the CSR league, it's two If it's for the PR league it's either one or two, but that depends on the league organisers. We're just trying to be helpful 
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Quoted: Quoted: Sorry if its a question with an obvious answer.. where can I get a list of all the CSR dates/ locations? The 9th Oct is the only published date so far for this season. They are all held at Bisley. 9/10 7/11 5/12 No dates yet for Jan onwards as the range bids haven't been collated yet but plan on the following 9/01 5/02 6/03 9/04 Imperial, 1st week July |
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What's with the During all movement, safety catches are to be applied with an empty case in the chamber. bolloxs?
So the firearm is neither made safe, unloaded or loaded. That would be impossible with a self ejecting unicorn. 
And why would you want to use a unicorn for csr 
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What's with the During all movement, safety catches are to be applied with an empty case in the chamber. bolloxs?
So the firearm is neither made safe, unloaded or loaded. I'm guessing if the mag is applied it'd be classed as loaded. But with a case (empty or not) in the chamber, it's not 'made safe'. |
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I'm guessing That's the point, it's not a recognised condition and how does the RCO confirm that a empty case is in the chamber without having the shooter remove the empty case and put it back in. We all couldn't agree more, so hopefully it's all being dealt with |
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If my AR isn't cocked I can't put the safety on? Thus it's impossible for me to comply with "During all movement, safety catches are to be applied with an empty
case in the chamber." without... 1) Locking the bolt back 2) Taking the mag out 3) Charging the mag with a spent cartridge 4) Applying the mag 5) Dropping the bolt 6) Hopeing it feeds 7) Then finally applying the safety... That's a little messed up... Thanks goes out to those dealing with it! |
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Quoted: If my AR isn't cocked I can't put the safety on? Thus it's impossible for me to comply with "During all movement, safety catches are to be applied with an empty case in the chamber." without... 1) Locking the bolt back 2) Taking the mag out 3) Charging the mag with a spent cartridge 4) Applying the mag 5) Dropping the bolt 6) Hopeing it feeds 7) Then finally applying the safety... That's a little messed up... Thanks goes out to those dealing with it! Yeah, we get the idea, thanks....... |
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I'm guessing That's the point, it's not a recognised condition and how does the RCO confirm that a empty case is in the chamber without having the shooter remove the empty case and put it back in. If the mag is applied the rifle is 'loaded' doesn't matter what's in the chamber. 'Made safe' is empty chamber and then magazine applied, ie 'unload' followed by a 'load' or the application of a magazine. Either way it's an RCO's nightmare so hopefully it'll be dealt with and common sense will prevail. |
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I'm guessing That's the point, it's not a recognised condition and how does the RCO confirm that a empty case is in the chamber without having the shooter remove the empty case and put it back in. If the mag is applied the rifle is 'loaded' doesn't matter what's in the chamber. 'Made safe' is empty chamber and then magazine applied, ie 'unload' followed by a 'load' or the application of a magazine. Either way it's an RCO's nightmare so hopefully it'll be dealt with and common sense will prevail. Yes I know that, its the NRA that don't seem to understand. Mind you my RCO course was two weeks not just a leisurely weekend. |
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I'm guessing That's the point, it's not a recognised condition and how does the RCO confirm that a empty case is in the chamber without having the shooter remove the empty case and put it back in. If the mag is applied the rifle is 'loaded' doesn't matter what's in the chamber. 'Made safe' is empty chamber and then magazine applied, ie 'unload' followed by a 'load' or the application of a magazine. Either way it's an RCO's nightmare so hopefully it'll be dealt with and common sense will prevail. Yes I know that, its the NRA that don't seem to understand. Mind you my RCO course was two weeks not just a leisurely weekend. Well, your instructors probably had to talk a bit s-l-o-w-e-r than ours.... 
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I'm guessing That's the point, it's not a recognised condition and how does the RCO confirm that a empty case is in the chamber without having the shooter remove the empty case and put it back in. If the mag is applied the rifle is 'loaded' doesn't matter what's in the chamber. 'Made safe' is empty chamber and then magazine applied, ie 'unload' followed by a 'load' or the application of a magazine. Either way it's an RCO's nightmare so hopefully it'll be dealt with and common sense will prevail. Yes I know that, its the NRA that don't seem to understand. Mind you my RCO course was two weeks not just a leisurely weekend. From where within the NRA did this requirement originate ? ETA - Page 2 is mine 
Proposed COF: Saturday Morning ARA Match 8 (Methuen cup match shot as individual) 52 rounds required, course of fire as follows. Practise 1 Harassing fire Distance 300 yards Position Prone No. of shots Two sighting shots and ten to count Target Fig.12 Scoring 5 & 4 Procedure 1. After the two sighting shots have been fired and signalled, firers will be ordered to apply safety catches, stand up and adopt the standing ready alert position. 2. On the appearance of the targets for 60 seconds, they will adopt the prone position and fire ten rounds. 3. Scores will be communicated to the firing point and spotting discs shown for 25 seconds. Practise 2 300-100 Rundown Distance 300 to 100 yards Position At 300, prone. At 200, sitting. At 100, standing. No. of shots Ten to count Target Fig.12 Scoring 5 & 4 Procedure 1. At 300 yards, firers are to be in the standing ready alert position, with rifle loaded, made ready and safety catches applied. 2. When the targets appear for 15 seconds, firers are to adopt the prone position and fire two rounds. 3. After firing the second round, bolts are not to be operated. 3. There will be a 1 second exposure of a Fig.12 which will be the signal to advance to the next firing point. Firers will have 30 seconds to run to the next firing point. 4. At 200 yards, firers will adopt the sitting position. There will be two 6- second exposures of the Fig.12. Two rounds are to be fired per exposure. 5. There will be a 1 second exposure of a Fig.12, which will be the signal to advance to the next firing point. Firers will have 30 seconds to run to the next firing point. 6. At 100 yards, there will be two 6-second exposures of the Fig.12. Firers are to engage the target with two rounds from the standing position. 7. During all movement, safety catches are to be applied with an empty case in the chamber. 8. Scores will be communicated to the firing point and spotting discs shown for 25 seconds. Practise 3 100 CQB Snap Distance 100 yards Position Standing followed by kneeling or squatting. No. of shots Ten to count Target One Fig.12c Scoring 5 & 4 Procedure 1. Competitors are to be in the standing alert position with rifles loaded. 2. The target will make five double exposures of 3 seconds up, 2 seconds down and 3 seconds up, at irregular intervals over a period of 2 minutes. 3. The first shot in each double exposure must be fired from the standing position, and the second from either the kneeling or squatting position. Firers must return to the standing alert position after each double exposure. 4. Scores will be communicated to the firing point and spotting discs shown for 25 seconds. Practise 4 200 Rapid Distance 200 yards Position Sitting No. of shots Ten to count Targets Two Fig.11 Time Limit 40 seconds Scoring 5 & 4 Procedure 1. Competitors are to be in the standing alert position with rifles loaded 2. On appearance of the targets, competitors are to adopt the sitting position and open fire. 3. No more than five hits will count on each target. 4. Scores will be communicated to the firing point and spotting discs shown for 25 seconds. Practise 5 (Non) Judgemental Snap Distance 300 yards Position Prone No. of shots Ten to count Target Fig.12 Scoring 5 & 4 Procedure 1. On completion of sighting shots, rifles will be made ready with ten rounds. 2. The targets will make ten appearances of three seconds at different places over a frontage of 6ft at irregular intervals varying between 5 and 20 seconds. 3. One shot only to be fired at each appearance. 4. Scores will be communicated to the firing point and spotting discs shown for 25 seconds. Saturday Afternoon Modified John C Garand Match 40 Rounds per firer, 1 x Fig12 at each distance. Practise 1 Standing deliberate Distance 200 yards Position Standing Time Limit 5 minutes No. of shots Ten to count Target Fig.12 Scoring 5 & 4 Procedure: 1. Start in the standing position with an empty magazine applied, bolt to the rear. 2. On the command “Watch and Shoot” the competitor will load and fire one round at a time. SLINGS MUST NOT BE USED. 3. Scores will be communicated to the firing point and spotting discs shown for 25 seconds. Practise 2 Rapid Sitting Distance 200 yards Position Standing to sitting No. of shots Ten to count Targets One fig 12 Time Limit 60 seconds Scoring 5 & 4 Procedure 1. Competitors are to be in the standing alert position with rifles loaded with a magazine of 2 or 5 rounds 2. On appearance of the targets, competitors are to adopt the sitting position and open fire. Slings may be used. 3. A compulsory magazine change must be made 4. Scores will be communicated to the firing point and spotting discs shown for 25 seconds. Practise 3 Rapid Prone Distance 300 yards Position Standing to Prone No. of shots Ten to count Targets One fig 12 Time Limit 70 seconds Scoring 5 & 4 Procedure 1. Competitors are to be in the standing alert position with rifles loaded with a magazine of 2 or 5 rounds 2. On appearance of the target, competitors are to adopt the prone position and open fire. 3. A compulsory magazine change must be made. 4. Scores will be communicated to the firing point and spotting discs shown for 25 seconds. Practise 4 Fallen Comrades (Amended) Distance 200 yards Position Prone No. of shots Ten to count Targets 10 x 9" plates Time Limit 90 seconds Scoring 5 pts per hit Procedure 1. At 300 yards, firers are to be in the standing position with rifle unloaded and carried at trail position with 2 five round magazines carried inside "first aid kit". 2. When the targets appear, firers are to advance to the 200 yard firing point carrying all equipment whilst negotiating the obstacles on the course. 3. At 200 yards, firers will adopt the prone position, retrieve their ammunition and open fire. 4. 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..... 2. When the targets appear for 15 seconds, firers are to adopt the prone position and fire two rounds. 3. After firing the second round, bolts are not to be operated. ...... You're thinking "did he fire two shots or only one?" Now to tell you the truth I forgot myself in all this excitement... you've gotta ask yourself a question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk? comes to mind. |
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We're trying to deal with this as already said. If anyone else feels they can do better, please feel free to ring 01483-797777 EXT 160. Of course this should only be relevant to those that can be arsed to actually turn up to these events and not continually find other excuses... |
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Just a quick question for the uninitiated (me  ). Do you need to be a member of the NRA or have any other licences/paperwork to take part in these competitions?No you just need that fullbore box ticked on your daft safe shooter thingy So, in other words - yes
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I have been advised of the following
Chamber flags are mandatory at Bisley. When shooting is complete, all rifles mist have a chamber flag/block fitted, and be returned to the gun bag asap. The rules committee has deemed vertical and angled foregrips and hand stops to be unacceptable in Service class. If you have these and do not wish to remove them, be aware that you will be classified in the Practical class |
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Unfortunately I can't make it to this weekend's CSR shoot, but will get to some of the others.
Given that we are at the beginning of the CSR season is there any chance of arranging at least one loooong range event? Those of us with big, heavy long guns need to play to our strengths you know and as there's unlikely to be a 'drink lots and see who falls over first' match then proper Iong range will do - mind you judging from one of the other threads, I reckon mousegunner Dave would probably beat me hands down in a falling over drunk contest... Seriously Mark, how about at least one long range match? |
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Unfortunately I can't make it to this weekend's CSR shoot, but will get to some of the others. Given that we are at the beginning of the CSR season is there any chance of arranging at least one loooong range event? Those of us with big, heavy long guns need to play to our strengths you know and as there's unlikely to be a 'drink lots and see who falls over first' match then proper Iong range will do - mind you judging from one of the other threads, I reckon mousegunner Dave would probably beat me hands down in a falling over drunk contest... Seriously Mark, how about at least one long range match? So, 1st post, unidentifiable screen name, no real name.....who the f**k are you then?
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Unfortunately I can't make it to this weekend's CSR shoot, but will get to some of the others. Given that we are at the beginning of the CSR season is there any chance of arranging at least one loooong range event? Those of us with big, heavy long guns need to play to our strengths you know and as there's unlikely to be a 'drink lots and see who falls over first' match then proper Iong range will do - mind you judging from one of the other threads, I reckon mousegunner Dave would probably beat me hands down in a falling over drunk contest... Seriously Mark, how about at least one long range match? So, 1st post, unidentifiable screen name, no real name.....who the f**k are you then? Aliens fan.....
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Unfortunately I can't make it to this weekend's CSR shoot, but will get to some of the others. Given that we are at the beginning of the CSR season is there any chance of arranging at least one loooong range event? Those of us with big, heavy long guns need to play to our strengths you know and as there's unlikely to be a 'drink lots and see who falls over first' match then proper Iong range will do - mind you judging from one of the other threads, I reckon mousegunner Dave would probably beat me hands down in a falling over drunk contest... Seriously Mark, how about at least one long range match? So, 1st post, unidentifiable screen name, no real name.....who the f**k are you then? Aliens fan..... Eh? 
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Unfortunately I can't make it to this weekend's CSR shoot, but will get to some of the others. Given that we are at the beginning of the CSR season is there any chance of arranging at least one loooong range event? Those of us with big, heavy long guns need to play to our strengths you know and as there's unlikely to be a 'drink lots and see who falls over first' match then proper Iong range will do - mind you judging from one of the other threads, I reckon mousegunner Dave would probably beat me hands down in a falling over drunk contest... Seriously Mark, how about at least one long range match? So, 1st post, unidentifiable screen name, no real name.....who the f**k are you then? Aliens fan..... Eh? http://www.freewebs.com/derbian/lv-426/index.htm
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Unfortunately I can't make it to this weekend's CSR shoot, but will get to some of the others. Given that we are at the beginning of the CSR season is there any chance of arranging at least one loooong range event? Those of us with big, heavy long guns need to play to our strengths you know and as there's unlikely to be a 'drink lots and see who falls over first' match then proper Iong range will do - mind you judging from one of the other threads, I reckon mousegunner Dave would probably beat me hands down in a falling over drunk contest... Seriously Mark, how about at least one long range match? So, 1st post, unidentifiable screen name, no real name.....who the f**k are you then? Aliens fan..... Eh? (cough)
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