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6/24/2010 5:19:11 AM EDT
Unlike Arnie, he'll not be back

6/24/2010 5:20:06 AM EDT
[#1]
thats a bit harsh

6/24/2010 5:21:44 AM EDT
[#2]
Yes, it appears that at lease one 4 wheeler is still butt hurt and crying

6/24/2010 6:39:59 AM EDT
[#3]
I dont think Vito will be defeated that easily.

6/24/2010 6:40:20 AM EDT
[#4]
Don't you have the opportunity to overrule them, maybe some kind of vote that will block their action? Oh, that's right, no more veto
6/24/2010 6:42:04 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
I dont think Vito will be defeated that easily.



Is he the kind of person who would flick a two-fingered "v"-to the board admins?
6/24/2010 6:46:14 AM EDT
[#6]
Well, its not unheard of on other forums for a banned member to return having been "rebranded".

I managed to do it a few times on Airgun BBS before I grew weary of it.
6/24/2010 8:21:26 AM EDT
[#7]
that's not good
now I need to change my title line
6/24/2010 8:32:29 AM EDT
[#8]


6/24/2010 10:56:01 AM EDT
[#9]
I missed the thread, what did he do, say it like it is...
6/24/2010 10:58:20 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I missed the thread, what did he do, say it like it is...


Saying it like it is is what led to his ban I believe.

6/24/2010 12:15:25 PM EDT
[#11]
Well that's unfortunate, Smart Fellow...
6/25/2010 11:38:08 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Yes, it appears that at lease one 4 wheeler is still butt hurt and crying


FWIW, the git Vito layed into deserved it...... he made very innapropriate comments just as the Cumbrian shootings were unfolding and was gloating......... Vito bit back.   It now seems that when a 4 wheeler decides to have ago we have to sit there and take it because it's OK for them to call us Anti-semitic, limeys or Euro-fags or other derogatory comments if we disagree with them,  but when you refer to one of them as a "yid(?) troll" while being badly provoked that is considered unacceptable

For what it's worth I looked up some definitions of "Yid" (I wasn't that sure what it meant myself since I never use it, but I do hear it from a guy at work who refers to the Spurs Yid Army (he's a Spurs Supporter))

Here they are:

An Eastern European Jew. The term is often interpreted as offensive, which is a major misconception. The word Yiddish is not offensive, so neither is Yid. The word Yid is used to differentiate between an Eastern European, Yiddish-speaking Jew and an Israeli, Hebrew-speaking Jew.

and

1) Person of Yiddish descent 2)Jewish person 3) Tottenham Hotspur Football Club supporter (originated due to the large yiddish community in that area of London)

There's a shop in Prestwich that sells yiddish food and other such things..... I thought it was a sect of judaism.  I don't get why it's offensive.   It's only like calling an Englishman a Scotsman...... not exactly offensive and certainly nothing to get all butthurt and whiney over.

I'm very surprised that site staff have taken the decision they have though..... normally the quality of moderation on ARFCOM is exceptional, but I think that unless bot Vito and his portagonist have both received comparable punishments then the ruling seems to be very harsh, but that's just my opinion and is not meant as a call out.  Hopefully the dust will settle, the 4 wheeler will man the fuck up and the Mods will be able to unlock Vito and we can put it all behind us.

Dunno if it will help the mods but maybe these things could be considered if they decide to look again at Vito's situation.  Maybe the context of the word is different over here?..... I don't really know.

6/25/2010 12:14:44 PM EDT
[#13]
So basically - some idiot was making ridiculous comments over a mass shooting and then got all hurty feelings when Vito made him look stupid?

Was his mommy not available to dry his tears and read him a nice bedtime story? Was his teddy bear not close enough to hand to soothe his little tantrum.

If you can't take it then you probably shouldn't try and dish it out.

Did he perchance submit one of these?

6/25/2010 12:27:47 PM EDT
[#14]
Brit bash Sunday just aint gonna be the same




6/25/2010 1:17:25 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Brit bash Sunday just aint gonna be the same
http://imagebank.ipcmedia.com/imageBank/s/SpitfireTribute_Shoreham_Sep07.jpg


Brit bash sunday is OK......    it's not the shabbat
6/25/2010 1:33:29 PM EDT
[#16]
Let's not make this a religion thing the bloke would be a cry baby whatever flavor he was!

anyway he is probably out of school this  week for the summer maybe he'll grow a pair during his vacation.

I doubt or friend Vito is all that devastated though.

6/25/2010 2:18:07 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Let's not make this a religion thing the bloke would be a cry baby whatever flavor he was!

anyway he is probably out of school this  week for the summer maybe he'll grow a pair during his vacation.

I doubt or friend Vito is all that devastated though.




Fact is that Vito is one of us.   We all see and enjoy the brit bash threads and we've all been called "Euro-pussies", "Fags", "limeys" etc and not one of us has ever taken offence or reported anyone for it......

I just can't get my head around the fact that someone would get into a tizz to such an extent of such a trivial issue and cause another member to be banned over it.

I don't know which I'd be more offended by..... the troll bit, or the yid bit........ come to think of it,....... neither would offend me enough to do anything more than post a

Whatever happened to "if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen"

6/25/2010 3:53:10 PM EDT
[#18]
yid   # 4 perhaps

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yid
6/27/2010 11:01:15 AM EDT
[#19]
Did the the thread get nukes?

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6/28/2010 11:11:23 AM EDT
[#20]
Sucks.

I did not always agree with everything he posted but he was one of the board's most knowledgeable posters, and very likable guy.  This place will not be the same without him.  

Can't say I am surprised though.  The board's Al Sharptons have been trying it for a while.

6/28/2010 11:25:55 AM EDT
[#21]
Does he actually want  to return ?

Because it seems to me he could, one way or another,  if he really wanted to.

6/28/2010 11:26:47 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Sucks.

I did not always agree with everything he posted but he was one of the board's most knowledgeable posters, and very likable guy.  This place will not be the same without him.  

Can't say I am surprised though.  The board's Al Sharptons have been trying it for a while.



Yep.... Its those goons that will be the demise of ARFCOM.   People come here because they think its relatively easy going and you can speak your mind because everyone is man enough to not get all bent out of shape and take it for what it is, which is the internet....that's all.

Unfortunately they get here and they get the one thing that is worse than a butt hurt liberal tosser, and that's a butt hurt right wing bible thumping tosser - I think you analogy to Sharpton was spot on.
6/28/2010 11:27:15 AM EDT
[#23]



Quoted:


Does he actually want to return ?


That's irrelevant really as there's no way back for him



 
6/28/2010 11:29:31 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Does he actually want to return ?

That's irrelevant really as there's no way back for him
 


So I take it this site has security levels that surpass other sites ( bbs for instance ) where banned members come back under a new alias ?
6/28/2010 12:21:14 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sucks.

I did not always agree with everything he posted but he was one of the board's most knowledgeable posters, and very likable guy.  This place will not be the same without him.  

Can't say I am surprised though.  The board's Al Sharptons have been trying it for a while.



Yep.... Its those goons that will be the demise of ARFCOM.   People come here because they think its relatively easy going and you can speak your mind because everyone is man enough to not get all bent out of shape and take it for what it is, which is the internet....that's all.

Unfortunately they get here and they get the one thing that is worse than a butt hurt liberal tosser, and that's a butt hurt right wing bible thumping tosser - I think you analogy to Sharpton was spot on.


Ex. Support America (your own country) before Israel (not your own country) makes you an anti-semite.  

Anyone who did not show blind, unquestioning loyalty to another nation was decried as a heretic/racist.  Independent thought and everything.......  

In the old days there was a word (begins with a "T") for those who felt another nations interests should take precedence over the interests of their own nation.  

The inquisition finally managed to burn/ban ANdy.
6/28/2010 3:26:41 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sucks.

I did not always agree with everything he posted but he was one of the board's most knowledgeable posters, and very likable guy.  This place will not be the same without him.  

Can't say I am surprised though.  The board's Al Sharptons have been trying it for a while.



Yep.... Its those goons that will be the demise of ARFCOM.   People come here because they think its relatively easy going and you can speak your mind because everyone is man enough to not get all bent out of shape and take it for what it is, which is the internet....that's all.

Unfortunately they get here and they get the one thing that is worse than a butt hurt liberal tosser, and that's a butt hurt right wing bible thumping tosser - I think you analogy to Sharpton was spot on.


Ex. Support America (your own country) before Israel (not your own country) makes you an anti-semite.  

Anyone who did not show blind, unquestioning loyalty to another nation was decried as a heretic/racist.  Independent thought and everything.......  

In the old days there was a word (begins with a "T") for those who felt another nations interests should take precedence over the interests of their own nation.  

The inquisition finally managed to burn/ban ANdy.


If it has, then it's a sad day for ARFCOM, and the value of free speech........ you see that's the thing with free speech, it's not always popular.  If you can't handle it, then don't step into the ring.

If being a nay-sayer about the way that Israel sometimes reacts make you a jew-hater or anti-semitic or whatever these opposing opinions say, then so be it. Whichever way you cut it Israel is a young nstion and sometimes they fuck up, as do all nations.

Free speech and open debate has long been the characteristic of ARFCOM.  Andy has overstepped the mark on several occasions, of that there is no doubt and he will admit it........ but that just indicates passion, and than that is why we keep coming back.

This is a site free of political censorship...... and I trust the Mods to do the right thing........... anything else will be a betrayal of what ARFCOM Is about.  

7/5/2010 8:15:12 PM EDT
[#27]
wow...I just now found this thread......

let me say this.. I have had members of this site hack my photobucket and post pics of my family and friends, some of whom were veterns, in a pit thread. There were no bans, I didnt whine, I could care less about "punishing" some faceless scumbag out there in internetland.

For about a week there at the end Vito posted some pretty immflamatory shit.....I vehemently disagreed with him about almost every bit of it. but you could tell he atleast could argue his point of view. I want Vito back. we dont need to coddle all the butt hurt folks around here. If they cant handle a little verbal back and forth, then they should be the ones to STFU and GTFO.
7/6/2010 2:36:39 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
wow...I just now found this thread......

let me say this.. I have had members of this site hack my photobucket and post pics of my family and friends, some of whom were veterns, in a pit thread. There were no bans, I didnt whine, I could care less about "punishing" some faceless scumbag out there in internetland.

For about a week there at the end Vito posted some pretty immflamatory shit.....I vehemently disagreed with him about almost every bit of it. but you could tell he atleast could argue his point of view. I want Vito back. we dont need to coddle all the butt hurt folks around here. If they cant handle a little verbal back and forth, then they should be the ones to STFU and GTFO.


I have to agree.  The literary jousting and discourse that goes in on some of these threads is both interesting and educational.  If people can't take that then they should stay away and post elsewhere. It's the internet FFS, not a matter of life and death..... people need to get things in perspective.

I didn't see a lot of what he posted in other thread towards the end, but I do know that the inflammatory stuff was being said by both sides....with one side enjoying the prolific use of the report button.  Had a chat with Vito the other day and it seems that there have been hundereds of reports against him in a concentrated effort to get him banned.  I just think that's spiteful and bloody pathetic.

I've read a lot of the threads where this stupidity tends to lurk. The thing with Vito is that he has spent a lot of time in that part of the world and knows the history and the politics behind it.  That meant that those Israel-Firsters who engaged with Vito in discussion without an open mind usually got their assess handed to them.  Naturally, because they believe they can do no wrong, the only way to win back the argument was to report Vito for some minor infringment and get the thread locked.  

I hope this isn't a sign of things to come or ARFCOM will lose most of the colourful characters that make this such an interesting forum, and anyone else will leave.   It's going to get to a point where the only people left will be pro-Israeli, bible thumping intollerant right wing religious extremists and anyone who doesn't accept their totallitatian views will be labelled, an "anti-semite", "terrorist sympathiser".   The neutering of opinion and free speech is not what I thought ARFCOM was about.
7/6/2010 7:10:40 AM EDT
[#29]
Well said Funky. I didn,t always agree with Vito, but admired the man for his forthright , and always, well put opinions. This place is poorer for his abscence.
7/13/2010 6:09:32 AM EDT
[#30]
Thread in GD about the demise of Vito.

Lots of mixed responses - no surprise there.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1064821&page=5�