Posted: 1/17/2010 7:12:44 AM EDT
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Anyone know anything about the Surefire G2?
Any reccomendations for other Torches? I'd like one that can be both used as a small but very powerful hand torch, but can be attached to a rail system for bunny hunting.... |
If you're going for a Surefire it has to be....
Surefire 
More seriously though I run an E1L, an M2 Centurion (LED), and M4 Devastator and they are hard as nails. Bang 'em, drop 'em, submerge them, they just keep going. Never handled a G2 but as always you'll get what you pay for. 
ETA - Larue do some nice light mounts....
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only way to go for the bunnys . clulite , had one for a few years now http://www.cluson.co.uk/?gclid=CIvvm8z0q58CFcpb4wodsnIscg john |
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Thank's UKjohn and DaddyPig, however I am tryinh to get away from the large and cumbersome lamping arrays I have used in the past.
The whole Surefire et al market looks promising, and they know how to charge, however I'm a bit perplexed as to which type to go for. Notrolon, LED etc,...... and what spec do you look for in terms of Lumens/range/beam focus, mountability??? I'm trying to get a powerful and focused beam that has decent battery life can be used as a hand torch and be mounted on a rifle rail. Is there some sort of spec that would considered suitable for bunny-bashing etc? |
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Quoted: Thank's UKjohn and DaddyPig, however I am tryinh to get away from the large and cumbersome lamping arrays I have used in the past. The whole Surefire et al market looks promising, and they know how to charge, however I'm a bit perplexed as to which type to go for. Notrolon, LED etc,...... and what spec do you look for in terms of Lumens/range/beam focus, mountability??? I'm trying to get a powerful and focused beam that has decent battery life can be used as a hand torch and be mounted on a rifle rail. Is there some sort of spec that would considered suitable for bunny-bashing etc? i dont think you would get much in the way of run time or a decent beam out to 50 yards , but i my be wrong . some of our American chums should know better . john |
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I've had my G2 6 years now and it works the same as the day I got it. I have the P21 lamp assembly in it which gives out 120 lumens. You can see at 100 yards with it, but for bunny hunting I would recommend the Z3 or any Surefire that takes 3 batteries and has an upgraded bulb to give an output of at least 200 lumens. I do agree though, why mount something to your gun that looks like it was used to spot planes in WW2 when you can have these compact ultra powerful torches?
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Something like the M3 Combat Light would be ideal but your 200 lumen requirement is going to cut your run time to about 20 minutes
Batteries for these things aren't cheap either... 
The other thing to think about with this is how are you going to mount & operate the lamp either tail switch, remote pressure switch etc. and how easily it reverts back to a hand torch. This might do you.... Surefire M962XM07 
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Thank's UKjohn and DaddyPig, however I am tryinh to get away from the large and cumbersome lamping arrays I have used in the past. The whole Surefire et al market looks promising, and they know how to charge, however I'm a bit perplexed as to which type to go for. Notrolon, LED etc,...... and what spec do you look for in terms of Lumens/range/beam focus, mountability??? I'm trying to get a powerful and focused beam that has decent battery life can be used as a hand torch and be mounted on a rifle rail. Is there some sort of spec that would considered suitable for bunny-bashing etc? i have a fenix tk11 twww.fenixtorch.co.uk his has about 230 lumens and can be used for bunies under 100yrd or if you want to use one for foxes or longer shots i use tiablo A10G this one has a deep lens led set up and gives about 240 lumens but gives a great spot.they also make one that is the same dimensions but is about 6-700 lumens. these lights are not cheap but not as pricey as surefire.they all have 1 inch bodies an i use a side mount on my picatinny rail but there are loads of mounts available www.inovatech.co.uk - these guys will talk you through their torches, very helpfull. i have gone down the led route because the lights are much smaller and easier to use especially when you are on your own.i scan the field with a fenix tk40 then use the gun mounted tiablo for shooting.no wires to get caught up except the pad switch. hope this helps |
| I have a Olight M20. Well built, nice tight 250 lumens beam, and runs for around 2 hours on 2 CR123 batteries. I use rechargeables so no worries carrying a few extra. It's a good torch, and available with a a pressure switch and coloured filters. |
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Something like the M3 Combat Light would be ideal but your 200 lumen requirement is going to cut your run time to about 20 minutes
Batteries for these things aren't cheap either...
The other thing to think about with this is how are you going to mount & operate the lamp either tail switch, remote pressure switch etc. and how easily it reverts back to a hand torch. This might do you.... Surefire M962XM07 http://www.surefire.com/surefire/content/images_inv/x/k/24218/M962_45L_2.png Just saw the price......
It's not funny. Well, it's a little bit funny |
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Thank's UKjohn and DaddyPig, however I am tryinh to get away from the large and cumbersome lamping arrays I have used in the past. The whole Surefire et al market looks promising, and they know how to charge, however I'm a bit perplexed as to which type to go for. Notrolon, LED etc,...... and what spec do you look for in terms of Lumens/range/beam focus, mountability??? I'm trying to get a powerful and focused beam that has decent battery life can be used as a hand torch and be mounted on a rifle rail. Is there some sort of spec that would considered suitable for bunny-bashing etc? i have a fenix tk11 twww.fenixtorch.co.uk his has about 230 lumens and can be used for bunies under 100yrd or if you want to use one for foxes or longer shots i use tiablo A10G this one has a deep lens led set up and gives about 240 lumens but gives a great spot.they also make one that is the same dimensions but is about 6-700 lumens. these lights are not cheap but not as pricey as surefire.they all have 1 inch bodies an i use a side mount on my picatinny rail but there are loads of mounts available www.inovatech.co.uk - these guys will talk you through their torches, very helpfull. i have gone down the led route because the lights are much smaller and easier to use especially when you are on your own.i scan the field with a fenix tk40 then use the gun mounted tiablo for shooting.no wires to get caught up except the pad switch. hope this helps I have seen a couple of Fenix torches, they look pretty good. heard some good things about them as well. Thanks for the link! |
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Yank butting in again. I have the 6P led flashlight, the metal cousin to the G2. It's great but I'd recommend going up one size for your application. And the LED is far superior. Also, they take amazing abuse. A friend of mine has one that spent a day in the tank of a fuel truck filled with Jet A and it works fine. |
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In my opinion none of these pocket sized lights have long enough beam to stretch to 100yds and dedicated gun mounted lights are far better. They don't all have to be big as some of the newer ones are quite compact ETA: FWIW, I have 1x D2 Defender, 3x Pentagon's and a Digilight. LED's will run a lot longer than the batteries have enough power to fire up the normal halogen type bulbs with. Does that make sense?? |
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In my opinion none of these pocket sized lights have long enough beam to stretch to 100yds and dedicated gun mounted lights are far better. They don't all have to be big as some of the newer ones are quite compact ETA: FWIW, I have 1x D2 Defender, 3x Pentagon's and a Digilight. LED's will run a lot longer than the batteries have enough power to fire up the normal halogen type bulbs with. Does that make sense?? the larger torches with perhaps 6 inches of length and 2 inch reflector with the correct led can easily extend beyond 100yrd and still be compact enough.with most lamped foxes being shot at less than 200yrd(i assume) they these will do it.i'm not saying they are as powerfull as a traditional lamp but they will do it. these led are getting brighter all the time,and know the hid technology is coming on strong.go to candlepower forums its has loads of info. |
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Quoted: Surefire Heavy Gun Weapon Light...... http://www.surefire.com/surefire/content/cat_heavygun_full.jpg  Now you're just being silly  After all, this thread was started by a stingy Northerner  |
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Surefire Heavy Gun Weapon Light......
http://www.surefire.com/surefire/content/cat_heavygun_full.jpg Ouch around 4 grand ish 
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Quoted: Quoted: Something like the M3 Combat Light would be ideal but your 200 lumen requirement is going to cut your run time to about 20 minutes Batteries for these things aren't cheap either... The other thing to think about with this is how are you going to mount & operate the lamp either tail switch, remote pressure switch etc. and how easily it reverts back to a hand torch. This might do you.... Surefire M962XM07 http://www.surefire.com/surefire/content/images_inv/x/k/24218/M962_45L_2.png Just saw the price...... It's not funny. Well, it's a little bit funny How about this: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.14742 |
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If the output is correct, that's decent money.... unsure about the Xenon bulb though, prefer the CREE type LEDs..
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I got shown this yesterday as well as the rest of the range. The one pictured is pretty impressive at 260 lumens and 3 1/2 hrs run time http://www.inovatech.co.uk/shop/product.php?productid=94&cat=28&page=1 The beam's good for over 100m |
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I got shown this yesterday as well as the rest of the range. The one pictured is pretty impressive at 260 lumens and 3 1/2 hrs run time http://www.inovatech.co.uk/shop/product.php?productid=94&cat=28&page=1 The beam's good for over 100m this is the one i use on my rifles.very tight spot(long throw)they have a brighter one as well |