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AR15.COM
8/11/2008 11:26:48 AM EDT
Yet another petition for the goverment to ignore but please sign it!

i want my right to bear arms back and i hope you guys do too!


petitions.pm.gov.uk/leagliseguns/
8/11/2008 11:49:25 AM EDT
[#1]
I just read the petition's details and will not be signing it, I wish all of those who sign it luck.


More details from petition creator

Every year many people are victims of crimes, when they need not be. If they were allowed to have a gun, then they would not have been mugged, raped, burgled, killed, etc.

If the government respects and trusts it's people, then it should trust them to keep and bear arms. It is a symbol of a free state.

People in the UK should be allowed to keep and carry firearms, in order, to protect thier freedoms, the freedoms of other, to defent themselfs and the state.

The UK should make a law simular to the US Second Amendment "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."


Tony
8/11/2008 11:55:12 AM EDT
[#2]
Naah,


We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to give the people of the UK the right to keep and bare firearms


Streetfighter will  not be signing this stupid petition on the basis that the originator has very little grasp of his own language!


The signatories
   * paul nurse
   * Richard Hambridge
   * A Goss
   * Alphonse Capone
   * Colin D Wiseman
   * Michael O'Flaherty
   * DJBREED
   * TNTaylor
   * Andrew Hart (Don't use the US version, the second ammendment is stupid and badly worded)
   * Chris Howard
   * Anne Kasica
   * Chris
   * A very stupid petition from someone with no knowledge or undertanding of firearms

   * Uwe Schwarz
   * Paul Fisher
   * Benjamin Lowery
   * Bruce Wright
   * ric scott
   * M.Huddlestone
   * Ian Munn
   * WILLIAM EVES
   * sanjeev masson
   * Mr A Hoskins
   * S Bell
   * M.Napthen
   * Neil Fox
   * kirk farndale
   * S. Andrews - research shows this reduces crime by 95%
   * Lawrence Hendry
   * Adam Casey
   * miles overton

Milo is that you?

8/12/2008 3:32:52 AM EDT
[#3]
Yea that’s me, porter is my mothers maiden name and I like to use it as well because I was close to my granddad and its my middle name.

I see this guy has spelling issues and I also do being heavily dyslexic my self. I also see that some twit has boycotted the signing by writing something counter productive but I would have thought people here where pro second amendment? I have seen similar things here posted in the past including a civilian marksman petition.

Interested in responses not for arguments but just to learn more about your attitudes towards this.

All the best guys.

Milo
8/12/2008 4:06:16 AM EDT
[#4]
I wonder how many of the current signatories are actually current FAC holders.....

and SF, you missed one I think, Paul Nurse, i.e P.Nurse, and undoubtably his brother Alan will sign sometime soon..
8/12/2008 4:21:04 AM EDT
[#5]
the US second amendment will never be part of UK law and I wouldn't  want it to be I'll settle for being able to lawfully being able to pursue my chosen sporting pass time.

Any campaign to get a right to "keep and bear arms" is counter productive and will spur on all the anti's who already think all fire arms owners are lunatics thus driving an even bigger wedge between shooting sportsmen and the undecided majority of the public.

Nick
8/12/2008 5:01:26 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
the US second amendment will never be part of UK law and I wouldn't  want it to be I'll settle for being able to lawfully being able to pursue my chosen sporting pass time.

Any campaign to get a right to "keep and bear arms" is counter productive and will spur on all the anti's who already think all fire arms owners are lunatics thus driving an even bigger wedge between shooting sportsmen and the undecided majority of the public.

Nick


A big +1

Tony
8/12/2008 5:25:35 AM EDT
[#7]
yea good point, but there is also a strong argument around the world that if target shooters and firearms where supported by their government law abiding target shooters would not have to hid in fear of another media smear campaign as the general public would be informed and supportive instead or misinformed and manipulated through fear mongering.

I’m not saying that all uk citizens should have the right to an SLR or AK but was the country really that bad 40 years ago when many citizens kept a double barrel shotty under the stairs for reasons other than target shooting.

anyway I guess this issue has been raised a lot on here, looking at this petition I still believe in its cause (i personally prefer a Swiss style system) however its credibility is shot to crap because of reasons stated above which I did not initially see.
all the best guys  

Milo
8/12/2008 5:44:26 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
yea good point, but there is also a strong argument around the world that if target shooters and firearms where supported by their government law abiding target shooters would not have to hid in fear of another media smear campaign as the general public would be informed and supportive instead or misinformed and manipulated through fear mongering.

I’m not saying that all uk citizens should have the right to an SLR or AK but was the country really that bad 40 years ago when many citizens kept a double barrel shotty under the stairs for reasons other than target shooting.

anyway I guess this issue has been raised a lot on here, looking at this petition I still believe in its cause (i personally prefer a Swiss style system) however its credibility is shot to crap because of reasons stated above which I did not initially see.
all the best guys  

Milo



Speak for yourself!


Much better than any Yale lock…


8/12/2008 8:08:25 AM EDT
[#9]
i guess that would do the job, lol

i prefer the old, reliable shotgun because if granddad felt the need to fire it, 1000m down the road i don’t have to worry about a round coming through my kitchen window.

I personally think this governments attitude to self defence and firearm ownership is a joke and whilst i respect peoples views to not be involved in trying to change the system because they fear loosing all sporting rights i quite simply can say i will be campaigning for the right to defence and the right to bear arms until the day i die.

I often look at this man for inspration!