Posted: 9/12/2007 12:31:53 AM EDT
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I know its the Daily Farmer forced to kill massive wild boar after animal rights protestors released his herd Copy of the picture, 
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He is apparently a farmer of the beasts so he probably didn't have too hard a job getting it as it would presumably be used for humane despatch. Not only that but all you can see is the handle. It could easily have all but two cylinders welded which shouldn't be too hard to get. Sussex are notoriously 'strict' with regard to application grants but a chap at my club has been granted a .38spl two shot on his ticket for deer destruction whilst stalking. |
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Waidmannsheil. Now that is a big boar, I'm off again this weekend trying my luck near Nuremberg. I don't know why but every time I go Boar hunting and approach the high seat the saying from 'We were Soldier's once', 'Prepare to defend yourselves Gentlemen' always springs to mind. The Boar obviously don't like my humor as they always steer clear of my AO, darn. We also do driven hunts through the forests, I either use a O/U shotgun with slug's or a .308win repeater with a red dot sight. BTW, my pig gun is a converted K98 ammo is the Gecco 8x57IS I always have about 30 or so rounds, and I carry a Colt Python with two speed loaders, loaded with gecco FMJ TC, for the penetration and just in case I have to defend myself  , and always remember to save the last round for myself........ As I still have to bag my first, it's all a bit of trail and error, and I'll adjust my kit according to my experience and wallet, what I'd really like is a H&K SLB 2000 in 9,3x62 and a couple or three 10 round mags. Tony |
Your FLO doesn't have to agree. If it has been granted in another force area (Wales and UK only), then it is taken as precedent. Some forces have disagreed with applicants on other matters of precedent and got their fingers burned.. |
I'll give you my FLO's number and you can take it up with her....  Lots of hurdles dropped in the way when I went down the "humane dispatch" route... Trying to find the letter, but it went into Deer Staling Certificates, land where I hunted etc etc.... I realise that they are available, but the heels were well and trully dug in on that one.... 
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If I were a deerstalker or boar hunter I would apply for a S.5 handgun for humane destruction/self defense on the basis that I'm not going to get a second rifle shot off at a charging boar. However, they are unlikely to agree that said handgun can be used to shoot IPSC style competitions as practice for such events. |
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I was going to apply for a handgun, then they said that all my force was giving was 2 shot revolvers, or some 2 shot-2 barrelled thing (not a Derringer, the barrels have to be rotated) that a local RFD was making. I thought "what's the point" and forgot about it |
Pretty much where I got to.... The Bond Arms Derringers haven't even made it to these shores yet IIRC
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And they won't |
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Do Ya reckon if an IPSC series was organised and then we approached the Home Office for a Section 5 Pistol permit they may give it consideration? ........After all, I don't recall Pistols being banned outright, just moved into a different Section of the Act which is administered by an alternative Agency. I would guess that the HO have justifiable grounds to dismiss an application because there are no organised events in which to participate and therefore no cause for posessing a pistol, and lets face it, there's very few of us will ever be in a position to have to shoot a boar with one. Maybe trying to work with the regulator to find a solution is going to achive more. We can all have a tongue in cheek dig at the powers that be, but if you really want to achieve something then both parties need to leave the table with credibility and dignity intact. |
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The 60cm thing isn't a pistol, its cumbersome and more akin to a rifle and would not be any good for Olympic disciplines. I have shot one and I'm really not that impressed. In fact I would have thought that wielding something that cumbersome in many disciplines would be disadvantageous. By calling it a pistol and buying these things we are reinforcing the argument that IcarusY625 has made. The regulator and all of us know that the "Pistol Ban" was not effective and well targeted. If we approach this positively, in an organised and well reasoned manner then maybe the Govt will take the chance to redress the balance. We are more than 10 years on now and the figures speak for themselves. Even the media have called the ban a failure. A well reasoned approach to justifiable possession of pistols may offer a chance for all to save face and preserve the sport for future shooters. If we keep saying "it'll never happen in a million years" .... it never will. We need to step over the resentment and adopt a terminally positive and optimistic approach. |
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Well the 60cm thing technically is a rifle, and of course it's unsuitable for Olympic disciplines. It's not really suitable for IPSC but we have no other choice, and I don't think they are accepted in other countries. You go for it AF. I would be overjoyed to be proved wrong, as would probably everybody on here. Many people have tried the reasoned arguments and got nowhere. There simply isn't the support in political circles, there aren't enough members of the public supporting it and it's not a vote-winner. I think everybody on here has signed up to the 'bring pistols back' petition if only to make their feelings known... |
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My "Never in a million years" response was aimed at your suggestion of Sec5 licences being handed out to UK IPSC shooters... I'm pretty sure that theres been a petition or two already regarding pistols...plus the efforts of the Sportsman Association ? The 2012 Olympics has probably given us the best opportunity to try and reverse the situation....and it ain't looking good to be honest....even the range where the shooting events are to be held are temporary and will be demolished after the Olympics are over. |