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11/28/2006 3:35:44 AM EDT
Probably a hotly contested issue but as a relative newbie and non-AR owner what is the general consensus on the most efficient system?  My uneducated view tells me that side cocking, preferably both sides are the best option for multi-positional shooting?
11/28/2006 4:29:01 AM EDT
[#1]
I agree with your view, having tried "T" handle cocking on my carbine for a while!  

A nice chap on here modified my bolt and receiver and I haven't looked back since...........
11/28/2006 4:31:49 AM EDT
[#2]
We should be cocking with gas…

ANdy
11/28/2006 5:02:16 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
We should be coocking with gas…

ANdy



I agree! At least we can in .22rf and shotties...

11/28/2006 7:12:08 AM EDT
[#4]
Sooooo..... what options do I have in the UK for production/factory side cockers other than SGC and Cactus? I would be looking at both sides cocking.
11/28/2006 8:23:40 AM EDT
[#5]
IM Inbound
11/28/2006 8:27:55 AM EDT
[#6]
I would add that I have 2 ARs with left and right hand cocking - but only use the right hand. Some people use the left one off a bipod, but I find it faster to use the right one still. Adding the left hand cocking adds a reasonable chunk to the cost of the rifle, so I'd look closely at your requirement to see if you really need it....

Edited because I don't know my left from my right yet...
11/28/2006 8:32:20 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
I would add that I have 2 ARs with left and right hand cocking - but only use the left hand. Some people use the right one off a bipod, but I find it faster to use the left one still. Adding the right hand cocking adds a reasonable chunk to the cost of the rifle, so I'd look closely at your requirement to see if you really need it....


+1
11/28/2006 9:30:21 AM EDT
[#8]
The left hand folding levers dont seem like they would take too much abuse, i may be wrong but they dont look designed for repeated use as does the right side.
11/28/2006 9:37:44 AM EDT
[#9]
Thanks for the input. When I shoot prone off a bipod or rest I tend to put my left arm across under the butt, left hand on right bicep or thereabouts. That would preclude or at least hinder left-handed cocking. Perhaps a change of technique would be in order.

I'll have to have a practice with my V22
11/28/2006 10:12:44 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Thanks for the input. When I shoot prone off a bipod or rest I tend to put my left arm across under the butt, left hand on right bicep or thereabouts. That would preclude or at least hinder left-handed cocking. Perhaps a change of technique would be in order.

I'll have to have a practice with my V22


Thats similar to what I do (I support the rear of the butt with my left hand) - hence I don't use the left-hand cocking lever. With the right hand cocking mod being much faster than the left hand one anyway (its positioned much better) I wouldn't change your technique.
11/28/2006 10:13:53 AM EDT
[#11]
Depends what you want to do with it.

T handle cocking ( with a big  handle attached)  is perfectly useable for everything.

It's a bit slower than a dropped back and downward tilted cocking handle attached to the bolt carrier on the right hand side, purely for ergonomic reasons. ( you don't have to move your hand so far or lift your head away from the sights when cocking)
A handle attached to the bolt carrier can also double as a forward assist. ( if you suspect a round may not have fully chambered) which can be a lifesaver if you shoot in timed competitions.
The left hand cocking comes into it's own when shooting off a bipod. You can keep your hand on the left hand cocking lever and fire very quickly ( and accurately!) like this.
Left hand cocking is also the best option if you're left handed, unless you can find a left handed upper. ( apparently they do exist but I suspect they'd be rather expensive.)
11/28/2006 1:13:51 PM EDT
[#12]
I don't find any of that ambi-dextrous stuff necessary

I have a couple of ambi receivers but have only used the left side handle rarely
11/28/2006 1:43:30 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I don't find any of that ambi-dextrous stuff necessary

I have a couple of ambi receivers but have only used the left side handle rarely


Got any pictures?

Have to be a  lefty here…

ANdy
11/28/2006 1:58:32 PM EDT
[#14]
I always use the right hand side lever, it just feels right. I guess it's from using bolt action rifles for so long it's just natural to use the right side lever. To be honest I've never used the left hand one and very rarely the t handle.
11/28/2006 2:13:57 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I don't find any of that ambi-dextrous stuff necessary

I have a couple of ambi receivers but have only used the left side handle rarely


Got any pictures?

Have to be a  lefty here…

ANdy


This is the left side handle on a SGC/DPMS receiver

It's a little too far forward.

This is the type I usually fight to the right hand side, although I have slotted and fitted these to the left before.


I now powder coat these black so they're more unobtrusive.

They work really well
11/28/2006 2:22:22 PM EDT
[#16]
I like the look of that left hand handle… neat and workmanlike…

That and leave the right hand side alone would do for me.

ANdy
11/28/2006 2:22:42 PM EDT
[#17]
Decisions......decisions........


..but thanks again for all the input
11/28/2006 2:27:58 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Decisions......decisions........


Get Both!
11/29/2006 12:48:46 AM EDT
[#19]
I have an ambi-cocking upper. I tend to use the LH cocking handle when off a bipod, and the RH handle when shooting unsupported (standing/sitting/kneeling). I don't use the T handle.