[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Weapon lights (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/30/2011 1:58:14 PM EDT
|
I hope I'm not starting a new tread for no reason, in other words I hope this shouldn't be in the gun pics forum, but I want to keep this thread about weapon lights and pics of weapon lights being used, and also talk to NMHTF people who have used this stuff. Which ones have you guys used, which ones have you messed with, and which ones do you guys recommend. Also, I think price is a consideration. Is there anything under a $100 thats worth a shit? I saw this for $89. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjfxVTBPzXA
I have a rail on the left side of my forearm. 
This was the set up I had, this flashlight with a quick disconnect scoop ring 
It is 16 LED outback light that put out about 90 lumens 
While this flashlight only cost 10 bucks and I had the scoop ring hanging around. This light was great for indoors, but outside was weak, because is a flood light. Also, I couldn't find a remote switch for it. I wanted something with more of a focus in the lens. |
I've been using a Streamlight PolyTac LED for about 2 years now and I have had no problems with it. It can be had for about $40, it has a very good battery life, plenty bright, and is pretty much too simple for anything to go wrong with it. I keep one on my rifle, one in my truck, and one on my war belt. I have it in a Gear Sector mount, which I am also very happy with.
|
|
G2 Nitrolon 30.00 65 lumen for 1 hour runs on two CR123a http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=surefire+g2+nitrolon&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7ACGW_enUS354US355&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=5781566084086758516&ei=GB5GTZCFOo2WsgPEw6nXCg&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CE4Q8wIwAw# Maco T Grip 56.00 http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=maco+t+grip&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=571014939109187197&ei=UR5GTf_7H4WcsQP-1KT9Cg&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CG8Q8wIwBw#  Pentagonlight MS2 with arms mount 70 lumens for 60 minutes runs on two CR123A They are no longer in business so you get them where and when you can 75.00- 150.00 is what I see them bring.  |
|
I like those pentagon lights, but your right they are getting hard to find. I found a review of the Primary arms UWL. The guy is kind of a spaz, but whattda gonna do? I didn't know anything about this light til frii said something about it. I'd like to here frii review more then this guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaHnQOLocwc |
|
Quoted: I like those pentagon lights, but your right they are getting hard to find. I found a review of the Primary arms UWL. The guy is kind of a spaz, but whattda gonna do? I didn't know anything about this light til frii said something about it. I'd like to here frii review more then this guys. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaHnQOLocwc That just it if Fri writes it he knows it better be true or hometown will feed it too him. |
|
Quoted: Quoted: I like those pentagon lights, but your right they are getting hard to find. I found a review of the Primary arms UWL. The guy is kind of a spaz, but whattda gonna do? I didn't know anything about this light til frii said something about it. I'd like to here frii review more then this guys. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaHnQOLocwc That just it if Fri writes it he knows it better be true or hometown will feed it too him. That plus nothing to lie about... I dont have a stake in any claims other than this is my name attached to the review. A past review has pissed of a local dealer here which is silly since he only sells the end product... Anyhow, yes once I run these pretty hard I will give more details but I dont know when.  |
| I love the G2's as well. I have one, but they are just not bright enough outside. I feel that anything under 150 lumens is worthless outside, unless its 20 feet in front of you. And if your shooting at something 20 feet in front of you, then you have bigger problems then light at that point. I am torn between the Primary arms and that veriforce light. The PA light uses the 123A batteries which are expensive as hell. And the veriforce light uses triple A batteries, which are much cheaper. And the veriforce light is 10 bucks cheaper I think. So, I may be buying the veriforce light and then I'll have to give a review here. |
|
I don't have one, but don't they sell high lumens output bulbs for the G2s? I think my brother bought a 240 lumens bulb off of ebay for ~$20. He said that the battery life is pretty crappy (only ~30min) but that it is VERY, VERY bright.
Quoted:
I love the G2's as well. I have one, but they are just not bright enough outside. I feel that anything under 150 lumens is worthless outside, unless its 20 feet in front of you. And if your shooting at something 20 feet in front of you, then you have bigger problems then light at that point. I am torn between the Primary arms and that veriforce light. The PA light uses the 123A batteries which are expensive as hell. And the veriforce light uses triple A batteries, which are much cheaper. And the veriforce light is 10 bucks cheaper I think. So, I may be buying the veriforce light and then I'll have to give a review here. |
|
They do make drop in's for the G2. By the time I buy a mount, remote switch, and drop in I'll be spending $50-$60 bucks. I figured I might as well buy a light that was intended to be a weapon light. That way I can at least keep the G2 in my chest rig.
Quoted:
I don't have one, but don't they sell high lumens output bulbs for the G2s? I think my brother bought a 240 lumens bulb off of ebay for ~$20. He said that the battery life is pretty crappy (only ~30min) but that it is VERY, VERY bright. Quoted:
I love the G2's as well. I have one, but they are just not bright enough outside. I feel that anything under 150 lumens is worthless outside, unless its 20 feet in front of you. And if your shooting at something 20 feet in front of you, then you have bigger problems then light at that point. I am torn between the Primary arms and that veriforce light. The PA light uses the 123A batteries which are expensive as hell. And the veriforce light uses triple A batteries, which are much cheaper. And the veriforce light is 10 bucks cheaper I think. So, I may be buying the veriforce light and then I'll have to give a review here. |
|
Quoted:
They do make drop in's for the G2. By the time I buy a mount, remote switch, and drop in I'll be spending $50-$60 bucks. I figured I might as well buy a light that was intended to be a weapon light. That way I can at least keep the G2 in my chest rig. Quoted:
I don't have one, but don't they sell high lumens output bulbs for the G2s? I think my brother bought a 240 lumens bulb off of ebay for ~$20. He said that the battery life is pretty crappy (only ~30min) but that it is VERY, VERY bright. Quoted:
I love the G2's as well. I have one, but they are just not bright enough outside. I feel that anything under 150 lumens is worthless outside, unless its 20 feet in front of you. And if your shooting at something 20 feet in front of you, then you have bigger problems then light at that point. I am torn between the Primary arms and that veriforce light. The PA light uses the 123A batteries which are expensive as hell. And the veriforce light uses triple A batteries, which are much cheaper. And the veriforce light is 10 bucks cheaper I think. So, I may be buying the veriforce light and then I'll have to give a review here. I bought several 295 lumen q5 leds and click switches on ebay. The store name is 'allteamgo'. An led and click switch will run you around $50 shipped, he gives discounts on multiple purchases. The 123a batts last around an hour with intermittant use. But, they get hot really fast, which tells me they aren't real q5's, but a chinese knockoff. The best source for 123a batts is Brightflashlights, check him out in the Industry forum. I have one on a CAR-15 which is my favorite coyote gun. You can see there eyes out to 100 yards. I prefer night vision over the light, tho. |
|
Night vision. I wish I could pay for even the cheap stuff. Ya, I've seen the LED drop in's on ebay, But, your right, anything that comes from hong kong is crap on there. It's getting bad, you can't count on anything to be authentic. That's why I figured I'd buy the veriforce or the PA UWL for $70-$80 bucks and was made to be a weapons light. That way I could keep the G2 in my chest rig.
Quoted:
Quoted:
They do make drop in's for the G2. By the time I buy a mount, remote switch, and drop in I'll be spending $50-$60 bucks. I figured I might as well buy a light that was intended to be a weapon light. That way I can at least keep the G2 in my chest rig. Quoted:
I don't have one, but don't they sell high lumens output bulbs for the G2s? I think my brother bought a 240 lumens bulb off of ebay for ~$20. He said that the battery life is pretty crappy (only ~30min) but that it is VERY, VERY bright. Quoted:
I love the G2's as well. I have one, but they are just not bright enough outside. I feel that anything under 150 lumens is worthless outside, unless its 20 feet in front of you. And if your shooting at something 20 feet in front of you, then you have bigger problems then light at that point. I am torn between the Primary arms and that veriforce light. The PA light uses the 123A batteries which are expensive as hell. And the veriforce light uses triple A batteries, which are much cheaper. And the veriforce light is 10 bucks cheaper I think. So, I may be buying the veriforce light and then I'll have to give a review here. I bought several 295 lumen q5 leds and click switches on ebay. The store name is 'allteamgo'. An led and click switch will run you around $50 shipped, he gives discounts on multiple purchases. The 123a batts last around an hour with intermittant use. But, they get hot really fast, which tells me they aren't real q5's, but a chinese knockoff. The best source for 123a batts is Brightflashlights, check him out in the Industry forum. I have one on a CAR-15 which is my favorite coyote gun. You can see there eyes out to 100 yards. I prefer night vision over the light, tho. |
| SsevenN, Where ya been man? Your LED lenser counts, I had a cheap little outback light that I bought for 10 bucks at CVS pharmacy on mine. It worked great inside, but outside was weak. So, I got rid of it and was asking what people here were using. Frii turned me on to the Primary Arms Ultimate Weapon Light. That thing looks pretty cool. |
|
Quoted: SsevenN, Where ya been man? Your LED lenser counts, I had a cheap little outback light that I bought for 10 bucks at CVS pharmacy on mine. It worked great inside, but outside was weak. So, I got rid of it and was asking what people here were using. Frii turned me on to the Primary Arms Ultimate Weapon Light. That thing looks pretty cool. Sorry I havent gotten pictures to you sooner!   The light comes with the mount and can be removed from the mount to add quick detach capabilities (Like larue). I need to get some of those tactical rubber bands to hold my light switches in place..  |
|
Quoted: SsevenN, Where ya been man? Your LED lenser counts, I had a cheap little outback light that I bought for 10 bucks at CVS pharmacy on mine. It worked great inside, but outside was weak. So, I got rid of it and was asking what people here were using. Frii turned me on to the Primary Arms Ultimate Weapon Light. That thing looks pretty cool. Hey ben! Been busy at work and home lately, not so much free time to peruse arfcom.  Eventually I'd like to mount a high lumens light to my STG, but at the moment I'm going to stick with handhelds.  |
Ya, I hear that buddy. I've got a wife and 3 kids myself. And never enough time in the day. I hear ya about the light as well. I think I'm gonna buy the UWL for primary arms. Thats a maybe. I've been checkin out your videos on youtube. Way cool dude. I've always just sat or knelled to shoot. But I guess reality would be different. I am going to start shooting like that. I hope to be as fast as you.  Thank you for those pics frii, I really like that light. How you like it though???
Quoted:
Quoted:
SsevenN, Where ya been man? Your LED lenser counts, I had a cheap little outback light that I bought for 10 bucks at CVS pharmacy on mine. It worked great inside, but outside was weak. So, I got rid of it and was asking what people here were using. Frii turned me on to the Primary Arms Ultimate Weapon Light. That thing looks pretty cool. Hey ben! Been busy at work and home lately, not so much free time to peruse arfcom.
Eventually I'd like to mount a high lumens light to my STG, but at the moment I'm going to stick with handhelds.
|
|
Quoted:
Where from Allen????? Quoted:
Ordered a G2X Tactical today for $55.00. Included 6 free batteries. 200 lumen. I'll believe it when I see it. HERE No shipping costs. There may be coupon codes that will work if you look. Did not try any codes when I ordered. |
|
Veriforce weapon light .VS. Primary Arms Ultimate Weapons Light (UWL)
The only reason I'm using these 2 lights are price. They are dedicated weapons lights, although they can be used in hand. I'm not saying they are even close to a surefire or streamlight. I can't afford a surefire or streamlight. I don't think they are reasonable priced for the average person. Currently my life does not depend on my weapon light, so I think spending $80-$90 bucks on a weaponlight is reasonable. Both lights come with a coiled remote switch, and click on/off end cap. 1st off is the most important category, how bright is the light? Lumens––––––VFWL-300 PAUWL-380 Next, is the 2nd most important category––––Price. Price––––––––-VFWL––-$89.99 PAUWL––$79.99 I think the 3rd most important category is batteries. What kind do they use and how much? VFWL––––––––3 triple A batteries. about $7 bucks for 4 energizer lithiums. Energizer charger W/4 rechargeable batteries about $40 bucks PAUWL––––––3 CR123A batteries. A pack of 12 can run $19-$21 bucks. Generic charger and rechargeable batteries on ebay $12-$25 bucks Next up is size––How big is the light? VFWL––––––––Not listed, looks to be about 4 inches long PAUWL––––––7 3/4 inches Attachement system, How does the light attach to your gun? VFWL––––––Locking/release lever PAUWL––––-2 screws Participation at AR15.com VF––––-They have a page with only 4 topics since 2008 (in their defense someone did say they answered emails to their website) PA––––-Everyday posts from Marsh1 who works at Primary Arms |
|
Quoted:
Veriforce weapon light .VS. Primary Arms Ultimate Weapons Light (UWL) The only reason I'm using these 2 lights are price. They are dedicated weapons lights, although they can be used in hand. I'm not saying they are even close to a surefire or streamlight. I can't afford a surefire or streamlight. I don't think they are reasonable priced for the average person. Currently my life does not depend on my weapon light, so I think spending $80-$90 bucks on a weaponlight is reasonable. Both lights come with a coiled remote switch, and click on/off end cap. 1st off is the most important category, how bright is the light? Lumens––––––VFWL-300 PAUWL-380 Next, is the 2nd most important category––––Price. Price––––––––-VFWL––-$89.99 PAUWL––$79.99 I think the 3rd most important category is batteries. What kind do they use and how much? VFWL––––––––3 triple A batteries. about $7 bucks for 4 energizer lithiums. Energizer charger W/4 rechargeable batteries about $40 bucks PAUWL––––––3 CR123A batteries. A pack of 12 can run $19-$21 bucks. Generic charger and rechargeable batteries on ebay $12-$25 bucks Next up is size––How big is the light? VFWL––––––––Not listed, looks to be about 4 inches long PAUWL––––––7 3/4 inches Attachement system, How does the light attach to your gun? VFWL––––––Locking/release lever PAUWL––––-2 screws Participation at AR15.com VF––––-They have a page with only 4 topics since 2008 (in their defense someone did say they answered emails to their website) PA––––-Everyday posts from Marsh1 who works at Primary Arms Yep, the only thing the PA has against it in my opinion is size and weight. Brett with PA really took care of me when the first package was lost. That package later showed up and I had Brett charge me for it. He ended up giving me a huge discount for my troubles. I will buy PA anytime just for this reason. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
|
I placed my first order with PA on Monday (Nikon M-223 1-4x scope). I had a specific question for them and had a return email from Marshall within a couple hours of placing the order. I also got a tracking number the next day. Great customer service from Marshall (the owner) in my opinion!!
Quoted:
Veriforce weapon light .VS. Primary Arms Ultimate Weapons Light (UWL) The only reason I'm using these 2 lights are price. They are dedicated weapons lights, although they can be used in hand. I'm not saying they are even close to a surefire or streamlight. I can't afford a surefire or streamlight. I don't think they are reasonable priced for the average person. Currently my life does not depend on my weapon light, so I think spending $80-$90 bucks on a weaponlight is reasonable. Both lights come with a coiled remote switch, and click on/off end cap. 1st off is the most important category, how bright is the light? Lumens––––––VFWL-300 PAUWL-380 Next, is the 2nd most important category––––Price. Price––––––––-VFWL––-$89.99 PAUWL––$79.99 I think the 3rd most important category is batteries. What kind do they use and how much? VFWL––––––––3 triple A batteries. about $7 bucks for 4 energizer lithiums. Energizer charger W/4 rechargeable batteries about $40 bucks PAUWL––––––3 CR123A batteries. A pack of 12 can run $19-$21 bucks. Generic charger and rechargeable batteries on ebay $12-$25 bucks Next up is size––How big is the light? VFWL––––––––Not listed, looks to be about 4 inches long PAUWL––––––7 3/4 inches Attachement system, How does the light attach to your gun? VFWL––––––Locking/release lever PAUWL––––-2 screws Participation at AR15.com VF––––-They have a page with only 4 topics since 2008 (in their defense someone did say they answered emails to their website) PA––––-Everyday posts from Marsh1 who works at Primary Arms |
|
DAMN!  |
|
|
|
Holy shit! That PA's is freakin' bright! Nice pics brother!
Quoted:
Finally got a chance to run. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/Friiguy/100_0366.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/Friiguy/100_0367.jpg Primary Arms Weapon Light. First at about 60 yards, second at about 25 yards. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/Friiguy/100_0379.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/Friiguy/100_0383.jpg Surefire fore end light on my 870. Same distances as above. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/Friiguy/100_0373.jpg I like them all and am amazed at the brightness of the Primary Arms light. |
|
Quoted:
Holy shit! That PA's is freakin' bright! Nice pics brother! Quoted:
Finally got a chance to run. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/Friiguy/100_0366.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/Friiguy/100_0367.jpg Primary Arms Weapon Light. First at about 60 yards, second at about 25 yards. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/Friiguy/100_0379.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/Friiguy/100_0383.jpg Surefire fore end light on my 870. Same distances as above. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/Friiguy/100_0373.jpg I like them all and am amazed at the brightness of the Primary Arms light. Yeah it is! Trust me, it will DESTROY your night vision if you accidentally flash yourself. The rain added a nice effect to the testing too.
The pics really suck honestly. I even used my "good" camera. |
|
If you think about it, your trying to get a picture of a narrow beam of light in pitch black. Not bad pictures bro, bad conditions!
Edit: your pictures actually tell a story my friend. Quoted:
Quoted:
Holy shit! That PA's is freakin' bright! Nice pics brother! Quoted:
Finally got a chance to run. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/Friiguy/100_0366.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/Friiguy/100_0367.jpg Primary Arms Weapon Light. First at about 60 yards, second at about 25 yards. Edit: Your pictures actually tell a story! http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/Friiguy/100_0379.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/Friiguy/100_0383.jpg Surefire fore end light on my 870. Same distances as above. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/Friiguy/100_0373.jpg I like them all and am amazed at the brightness of the Primary Arms light. Yeah it is! Trust me, it will DESTROY your night vision if you accidentally flash yourself. The rain added a nice effect to the testing too.
The pics really suck honestly. I even used my "good" camera. |
|
I've read on the PA forum that the surefire LED heads won't fit on the PA UWL. I can't remember the exact name and numbers of the LED replacement head from surefire.
Edit: The surefire M951 LED replacement head. That's the one. Sorry, I should have looked that up before I posted up. Quoted:
Frii, you could probably convert that Surefire forend light to a much brighter and efficient LED. I've converted all of my SFs that I could. |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Frii, you could probably convert that Surefire forend light to a much brighter and efficient LED. I've converted all of my SFs that I could. Shit, more money into the money pit?
Malkoff Devices are the best but I've had good results with Dereelight drop-in LED modules... |
OK boys, (and girls, if there is any in the NMHTF) Switching gears from mags to flashlights for a moment. I was at Lowes today, and I saw this. I know what some of you are gonna say, that's not a gun light, it's a tool light. I thought at worst I have a new light to throw in my truck with a lifetime hassle-free guarnetee. At best a new gun light. I will put this in a light mount and test it out on my AR as soon as I decide which mount to use and get a report back here. stay tuned!!!
500 hundred lumens, 3 HI LED's, comes with 4 energizer cr123 batteries, lifetime hassle-free guarantee, high low switch, strike bezel on both ends, Water resistant, and 4 hours run time. 
1st impression after opening package, feels heavy, not bad heavy, like a quality piece. The end cap was smooth to take off and fit perfect. No rattle to the batteries, once in. The cap push is firm, and quick. no give or play in it at all. Feels smooth to the touch, the grip bites ever so slightly, more bite the harder the grip. Balance feels as you would think, heavier in the front but not as bad as you would think. It has an all aluminum body and overall feels sturdy. I'll take some pics of the light it puts out aginsnt some of the other flashlight I have, so you guys can get a feel for the amount of light it is putting out. So far this thing is amazingly bright. Edit: I forgot to put price, $69.95. With taxes it came to $74.40 I think. |
|
Ah, that Bill Murray! Hollywood royalty! He had this idea when I was a baby.
I plan on taking some pics of different lights and how they do compared to this 500 lumen kobalt light. I have a surefire G2, a 16 LED outback, a Black & Decker rechargeable spot light rated at 150 lumens. I will compare all 3 against the Kobalt. I can tell you now that this kobalt light is very close to 500 lumens. It blows away all these lights, even in low mode. I think I'm gonna put it in a Viking Tactics light mount. Quoted:
Sweet light. I'd use it in a setup something like this..... http://www.carlspackler.com/archive/cs_140.jpg Don't forget the essential supplies.. http://www.carlspackler.com/archive/cs_139.jpg |
|
Quoted: Ah, that Bill Murray! Hollywood royalty! He had this idea when I was a baby. I plan on taking some pics of different lights and how they do compared to this 500 lumen kobalt light. I have a surefire G2, a 16 LED outback, a Black & Decker rechargeable spot light rated at 150 lumens. I will compare all 3 against the Kobalt. I can tell you now that this kobalt light is very close to 500 lumens. It blows away all these lights, even in low mode. I think I'm gonna put it in a Viking Tactics light mount. Quoted: Sweet light. I'd use it in a setup something like this..... http://www.carlspackler.com/archive/cs_140.jpg Don't forget the essential supplies.. http://www.carlspackler.com/archive/cs_139.jpg This is PACKED with WIN! 
|
|
You don't mount that light to the gun. You mount the gun to that light!
Quoted:
I just picked this badboy up...now I have to figure out how the hell I am going to mount it!!
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd245/trevoramestoy/misc/IMG_3348.jpg |
In New Mexico Light mounts You Quoted: You don't mount that light to the gun. You mount the gun to that light! Quoted: I just picked this badboy up...now I have to figure out how the hell I am going to mount it!! http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd245/trevoramestoy/misc/IMG_3348.jpg |