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10/31/2009 4:18:01 PM EDT
Let it be known that I no longer trust a .380 acp for self defense.  I was at the farm today do some lookin around for deer sign, when I walked right up on a family of raccoons. These raccoons are destructive to feeders and needed to be regulated. I had the Ruger LCP on me loaded with Hornady Critical Defense. From 6 feet I shot one of them 3 times and it ran towards me to about 3 feet, never saw me. I could see it was covered in blood. I fired and hit at 3 feet so to dispatch it. It took off!!!! So I went back to the truck hoping it would die while I went to retain more armament. Returning with a 9mm carbine I jumped said raccoon and it ran about 50 yards. So I waited about 10 mins, then proceeded tracking. I saw a vine wiggling from a tree and the closer I got I saw the raccoon attempting to climb the tree. At which point I finished him off. Had this been a motivated attacker, I would have had an issue.

Ruger LCP .380 is on its way out. That is all.

10/31/2009 4:49:30 PM EDT
[#1]
maybe he was high on dope...lol
10/31/2009 5:09:47 PM EDT
[#2]
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maybe he was high on dope...lol


That's kinda what I was afraid of.
10/31/2009 5:35:20 PM EDT
[#3]
Possibly not good hits.  I for one used to not want to trust my life to the .380 ACP but more recent ammo is supposed to help some.  Of course you had what is supposed to be one of the best.  I'm kinda surprised it kept coming after being hit even once.
10/31/2009 5:58:16 PM EDT
[#4]
Plenty of blood. It stood up on its back feet and the whole under side was covered in blood. I couldnt believe it.The ammo did what it was suppose to do I guess. But just didnt do it very quick. The little gun is very accurate and I think I made good shots based on the blood I saw. However in a self defense situation good shots under stress may not be guaranteed either,(by me). It was enough for me to justify carrying the extra weight of a bigger caliber. Mobility vs Firepower. The sole purpose of the concealed carry (for me) is to have a tool that I hope never to have to use. But in the instance I did need to employ said tool, I need to know that is going to stop someone rather quickly. I think for many instances the little gun would be fine, but for a motivated attacker, or someone who maybe on dope the .380 is not what I want.

10/31/2009 6:29:50 PM EDT
[#5]
hmm....looks like i'll be getting a J-frame for speedo carry, then...

10/31/2009 6:43:54 PM EDT
[#6]
While I havn't killed anything with it yet, I still feel plenty confident in my Glock 30 carrying (11) .45 +P's and my spare 14 rnd mag on my weak side.

I'm glad you got to check out the .380 first hand in a "less" stressful situation

Any chance you can find the coon and see the shot placement? I guess if you left it for dead, it's prob drug off an ate by now tho
10/31/2009 6:44:33 PM EDT
[#7]
double tap
10/31/2009 6:49:50 PM EDT
[#8]
God I wont that FN pistol 4.7x28 I think it is
10/31/2009 7:35:10 PM EDT
[#9]
I will look for it tomorrow, but you are probably right something is bound to get it.  I am debating what gun to get for CCW.  Got a Glock 19, but may add something new
10/31/2009 7:37:14 PM EDT
[#10]





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God I wont that FN pistol 4.7x28 I think it is



5.7x28
fragments like a sonofabitch


ETA:  i'll just keep carrying my .45 every day.





 
10/31/2009 8:22:28 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
hmm....looks like i'll be getting a J-frame for speedo carry, then...


Speedo & Jungle Boots FTW!!!
10/31/2009 8:27:24 PM EDT
[#12]
you should do a statue for fathers day
10/31/2009 8:31:38 PM EDT
[#13]



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Speedo & Jungle Boots FTW!!!


nah, i think i'll leave that to yer old man.  my pasty white ass couldn't pull that off




 
10/31/2009 8:35:07 PM EDT
[#14]
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you should do a statue for fathers day


hmmmm......Ken doll with GIJoe jungle boots and a bikini bottom borrowed from Barbie?  
10/31/2009 8:36:46 PM EDT
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you should do a statue for fathers day




hmmmm......Ken doll with GIJoe jungle boots and a bikini bottom borrowed from Barbie?  


i just puked a little in my mouth.....




 
10/31/2009 8:36:52 PM EDT
[#16]
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Speedo & Jungle Boots FTW!!!

nah, i think i'll leave that to yer old man.  my pasty white ass couldn't pull that off
 



Yea.... I sure the hell couldnt pull it off either.

You have to know how to PIMP that sh!t, and my Pimpology isnt all that good.
10/31/2009 8:36:52 PM EDT
[#17]
well sure i was thinking 6 foot tall marble but whatever works for you
10/31/2009 10:42:42 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
hmm....looks like i'll be getting a J-frame for speedo carry, then...


11/1/2009 4:56:16 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
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hmm....looks like i'll be getting a J-frame for speedo carry, then...


Speedo & Jungle Boots FTW!!!


really...I wouldn't wear the Speedo...but I do have my old UDT shorts.....

11/1/2009 7:02:23 AM EDT
[#20]
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hmm....looks like i'll be getting a J-frame for speedo carry, then...


Speedo & Jungle Boots FTW!!!


really...I wouldn't wear the Speedo...but I do have my old UDT shorts.....



We'll let you pass with your UDT shorts. Ha

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11/1/2009 2:23:29 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:

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God I wont that FN pistol 4.7x28 I think it is

5.7x28


fragments like a sonofabitch




ETA:  i'll just keep carrying my .45 every day.
 

It was the 4.6x30mm I wont not the 5.7
11/1/2009 5:03:20 PM EDT
[#22]



Quoted:



Quoted:




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God I wont that FN pistol 4.7x28 I think it is


5.7x28





fragments like a sonofabitch

ETA:  i'll just keep carrying my .45 every day.

 


It was the 4.6x30mm I wont not the 5.7



sounds.......cute...




 
11/1/2009 5:47:25 PM EDT
[#23]
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...I wont not the 5.7



WTF!  Where did you go to school?  Arkansas!  

11/2/2009 6:47:53 AM EDT
[#24]




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...I wont not the 5.7







WTF! Where did you go to school? Arkansas!












11/2/2009 8:11:22 AM EDT
[#25]
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Let it be known that I no longer trust a .380 acp for self defense.  I was at the farm today do some lookin around for deer sign, when I walked right up on a family of raccoons. These raccoons are destructive to feeders and needed to be regulated. I had the Ruger LCP on me loaded with Hornady Critical Defense. From 6 feet I shot one of them 3 times and it ran towards me to about 3 feet, never saw me. I could see it was covered in blood. I fired and hit at 3 feet so to dispatch it. It took off!!!! So I went back to the truck hoping it would die while I went to retain more armament. Returning with a 9mm carbine I jumped said raccoon and it ran about 50 yards. So I waited about 10 mins, then proceeded tracking. I saw a vine wiggling from a tree and the closer I got I saw the raccoon attempting to climb the tree. At which point I finished him off. Had this been a motivated attacker, I would have had an issue.

Ruger LCP .380 is on its way out. That is all.





Come on man, raccoons =/= people.  They are tough little critters, and please, if you are going to be killing them, take head shots or use more gun.  Be humane.

.380 is fine for a backup gun.  If you think ANY pistol is going to drop an attacker instantly without CNS hits, you are in for a rude awakening.

11/2/2009 8:12:21 AM EDT
[#26]
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I will look for it tomorrow, but you are probably right something is bound to get it.  I am debating what gun to get for CCW.  Got a Glock 19, but may add something new


If you already have a G-19, I would skip getting another gun and use that money for ammo and training.
11/2/2009 9:19:14 AM EDT
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Quoted:



Quoted:

Let it be known that I no longer trust a .380 acp for self defense. I was at the farm today do some lookin around for deer sign, when I walked right up on a family of raccoons. These raccoons are destructive to feeders and needed to be regulated. I had the Ruger LCP on me loaded with Hornady Critical Defense. From 6 feet I shot one of them 3 times and it ran towards me to about 3 feet, never saw me. I could see it was covered in blood. I fired and hit at 3 feet so to dispatch it. It took off!!!! So I went back to the truck hoping it would die while I went to retain more armament. Returning with a 9mm carbine I jumped said raccoon and it ran about 50 yards. So I waited about 10 mins, then proceeded tracking. I saw a vine wiggling from a tree and the closer I got I saw the raccoon attempting to climb the tree. At which point I finished him off. Had this been a motivated attacker, I would have had an issue.



Ruger LCP .380 is on its way out. That is all.












Come on man, raccoons =/= people. They are tough little critters, and please, if you are going to be killing them, take head shots or use more gun. Be humane.



.380 is fine for a backup gun. If you think ANY pistol is going to drop an attacker instantly without CNS hits, you are in for a rude awakening.







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