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8/5/2010 1:07:11 AM EDT
Alright you guys.  The Primary Election is a couple of weeks away.  If you are in Anchorage today, 8/5/10, the Republican Party picnic will be out at Kincaid Park from 5pm till 8pm.  Get out and meet the candidates.  

If you're a Democrat, your election will be held on 4/1/11.  

If you already have locked down your vote for the Governor's race, who's it going to be and why?

For me...

Sean Parnell couldn't get a handle on running the State.  Heck, I even work with a guy that knows him personally and we still couldn't get a damn thing done.  He is in over his head and needs to GTFO.  IMO of course...

Ralph Samuels...Hmmm.  After meeting him and listening to him debate I really like what he has to say on most things.  Politically speaking I probably agree with his statements on State Government more than the other candidates.  But his ideas for the gasline push me away this election cycle.  You are not going to build a "Bullet Line" down the freakin Parks Highway.  Aint gunna happen.  He personally told me that going to Valdez is "silly".  Well Ralph, before I freeze to death I think I'll catch up with ya down the road after we build a gasline.

So it's Bill Walker for me this time.  The guy has been involved with gasline issues for 30 years.  He knows the game.  Period.  And when the Mayor of Anchorage tells me to prepare for rolling blackouts because we don't have enough deliverable natural gas, I get kinda pissed off.  They have been meeting with FEMA and many other emergency organizations to come up with plans on how to deal with us running out of gas in the middle of winter.  We will not run out in the summer folks, it will be when it is at the very coldest, 20 or 30 below for weeks.  That's when we are pulling on the system the hardest.    

If we do pull the system down like that, many of the wells will lose their siphon and can't be restarted.  There simply isn't enough pressure to restart the well.  Then what?  Anchorage freezes, that's what.  If Anchorage and the surrounding areas that are on natural gas freeze, how does the rest of Alaska that depends on Anchorage function?  Can you say...Hello FEMA, I know you're from the government and you're here to help.  

I know it's a worst case scenario, but it almost happened the winter before last.

What about you?  





8/5/2010 10:16:37 AM EDT
[#1]
I'm a Walker guy too.  Many say he is a single issue candidate but getting the gas flowing is the most important issue affecting Alaska's future.  The current folks in power want to play the oil industry game of waiting until they feel the time is right.  That is 20 or more years out.   Walker is right on that we need this now and he has some pretty good ideas how to make it happen in the next few years rather than in two or three decades.  He's involved in the permit process already and knows the gas line issues better than anybody else.  Like Obi-Wan Kenobi, he's our only hope .
8/5/2010 10:52:12 AM EDT
[#2]
Imagine if you guys actually had to pay the "fair market value" as the majoirty of the state does

Truth be told we will not have a gas line until Anchorage is out of gas and has to pay to get it shipped in.  Then and only then will out servants in Juneau decide that its an issue and start pushing things through.
8/5/2010 11:38:15 AM EDT
[#3]
What's the fair market value on fuel oil?  We don't have natural gas where I live unless it's in the form of propane.  I pay $3.47 per gallon for fuel oil.  I wasn't aware I was getting any discount.
8/17/2010 2:27:49 PM EDT
[#4]
One week to go...

Walker and Samuels will be on Mike Porcaro's show on 650 AM from 4 to 6pm today 8/17/10.

http://www.650keni.com/main.html  

Parnell is still in hiding.  



8/17/2010 4:18:59 PM EDT
[#5]
I am voting for Walker.
8/17/2010 6:41:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Walker for me, various reasons not just gas line stuff. If it comes down to Parnell V. Berkowitz....that's tough. With Parnell he can't seem to find his ass with both hands, and having a Republican house/senate they have been rubber stamping Republican spending (So who is exactly supposed to be the fiscally conservative party anyway!!?!). At least with Berkowitz the Republicans might get their balls back and attempt to control his fiscal side assuming they have control of the house/senate, much like has happened here under previous democrat governors. I dunno....
8/18/2010 4:46:08 AM EDT
[#7]
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What's the fair market value on fuel oil?  We don't have natural gas where I live unless it's in the form of propane.  I pay $3.47 per gallon for fuel oil.  I wasn't aware I was getting any discount.


Not sure where you're at, but Bill and the gasline guy's I know are keenly aware of the high energy costs such as diesel in rural Alaska.  Have you been to ANGDA's website to see what they have been up to?  You should check out what they are trying to do for propane distribution.  I would strongly encourage you or anyone else to contact Harold or Scott down there if you have any questions.  After all, this is the agency we voted to create in 2002.  

uafgrad...

I hear ya.  Like I said though; winter before last when we had one compressor down over in Beluga, we just about ran out in the middle of January down here.  I've seen the graphs down at ANGDA's office for Cook Inlet and we are about to fall off a cliff for deliverable natural gas.  We already lost the Agrium plant.  I know Enstar and some boys plan to build some storage tanks down there to help, but I think I can already feel their hand in my back pocket taking the money to fund it.  Why not build a freaking gas line, back feed and pressurize it up until we tie in with gas from the slope?

That's Harold Heinze's idea.  The ROW is already in place for the spur line from Palmer to Glennallen.  They want to get started building that section and use it for a storage tank.  Then, when the big line comes by on the way to Valdez they just tie in and reverse the flow back towards Palmer.  Simple.  

That's how we get affordable energy.  They way they have explained it to me is basically they want the "Instate" gas to be able to hitchhike a ride down a large pipeline to Valdez.  That is the best way to keep our price low.  Then ship to places on the world market such as Asia that are paying 2 to 3 times what the Henry Hub price is in the States.  Then we get 5 or more take off points along a big pipe to gas up Fairbanks etc...And build plants for propane along the way too so we can ship it out to the villages in a container exchange type of program.  Several large petrochemical plants are very excited about what we could do up here.  They want to build some plants up here but they need a steady stream of gas to run their facilities.  That will create a ton of long term jobs if we can do that.  On and on it goes...  

6 days left.  I think I'm going to stroke out before this is over!  

 

 


8/18/2010 1:21:02 PM EDT
[#8]
Bill Walker will push hard for state's rights.  When he talked about taking action and worrying about the federal response later I was sold.  His comment along the lines of "they'll know where to find me" made a very clear statement about taking action.

Matt
8/18/2010 6:27:45 PM EDT
[#9]
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Bill Walker will push hard for state's rights.  When he talked about taking action and worrying about the federal response later I was sold.  His comment along the lines of "they'll know where to find me" made a very clear statement about taking action.

Matt


Yep, referencing Bobby Jindal and his building of sand berms in the gulf after the feds said no. I like it!
8/18/2010 7:52:04 PM EDT
[#10]
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What's the fair market value on fuel oil?  We don't have natural gas where I live unless it's in the form of propane.  I pay $3.47 per gallon for fuel oil.  I wasn't aware I was getting any discount.


Not sure where you're at, but Bill and the gasline guy's I know are keenly aware of the high energy costs such as diesel in rural Alaska.  Have you been to ANGDA's website to see what they have been up to?  You should check out what they are trying to do for propane distribution.  I would strongly encourage you or anyone else to contact Harold or Scott down there if you have any questions.  After all, this is the agency we voted to create in 2002.  

uafgrad...

I hear ya.  Like I said though; winter before last when we had one compressor down over in Beluga, we just about ran out in the middle of January down here.  I've seen the graphs down at ANGDA's office for Cook Inlet and we are about to fall off a cliff for deliverable natural gas.  We already lost the Agrium plant.  I know Enstar and some boys plan to build some storage tanks down there to help, but I think I can already feel their hand in my back pocket taking the money to fund it.  Why not build a freaking gas line, back feed and pressurize it up until we tie in with gas from the slope?

That's Harold Heinze's idea.  The ROW is already in place for the spur line from Palmer to Glennallen.  They want to get started building that section and use it for a storage tank.  Then, when the big line comes by on the way to Valdez they just tie in and reverse the flow back towards Palmer.  Simple.  

That's how we get affordable energy.  They way they have explained it to me is basically they want the "Instate" gas to be able to hitchhike a ride down a large pipeline to Valdez.  That is the best way to keep our price low.  Then ship to places on the world market such as Asia that are paying 2 to 3 times what the Henry Hub price is in the States.  Then we get 5 or more take off points along a big pipe to gas up Fairbanks etc...And build plants for propane along the way too so we can ship it out to the villages in a container exchange type of program.  Several large petrochemical plants are very excited about what we could do up here.  They want to build some plants up here but they need a steady stream of gas to run their facilities.  That will create a ton of long term jobs if we can do that.  On and on it goes...  

6 days left.  I think I'm going to stroke out before this is over!  

 





I saw where they are going to send 80% of ALL propane produced to Valdez.  Valdez will have more than they can burn just to burn.  It make absoutely no fucking sense what they are doing with the trucking propane plan that they are putting in place right now
8/19/2010 11:58:15 AM EDT
[#11]
On second thought, I can't support Parnell after his asinine proposal for the state to pay for the college education of anyone who graduates high school.

8/20/2010 9:11:06 AM EDT
[#12]
That's how we get affordable energy.  They way they have explained it to me is basically they want the "Instate" gas to be able to hitchhike a ride down a large pipeline to Valdez.  That is the best way to keep our price low.  Then ship to places on the world market such as Asia that are paying 2 to 3 times what the Henry Hub price is in the States.  Then we get 5 or more take off points along a big pipe to gas up Fairbanks etc...And build plants for propane along the way too so we can ship it out to the villages in a container exchange type of program.  Several large petrochemical plants are very excited about what we could do up here.  They want to build some plants up here but they need a steady stream of gas to run their facilities.  That will create a ton of long term jobs if we can do that.  On and on it goes...  

6 days left.  I think I'm going to stroke out before this is over!  


 

Alaska will never have much in the way of industry until we have some form of affordable energy.

Therefore BILL WALKER HAS MY VOTE!!

Until that day,
Darkop


 




8/21/2010 7:32:58 AM EDT
[#13]
walker for me as well
8/21/2010 9:42:47 AM EDT
[#14]
Hey guys... is there a place you can get a look at your ballot a head of time?  I'm going to be out of town next week and have to send my wife to the polls in my stead.  She doesn't stay up on the issues, as much as I've been out of town this summer neither have I.  She's usually my second vote... hey, at least I'm not voting for my dead Grandfather!  

Anyway, I want to pack her with info so she can make my "educated" vote!  
8/21/2010 10:35:14 AM EDT
[#15]
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Hey guys... is there a place you can get a look at your ballot a head of time?  I'm going to be out of town next week and have to send my wife to the polls in my stead.  She doesn't stay up on the issues, as much as I've been out of town this summer neither have I.  She's usually my second vote... hey, at least I'm not voting for my dead Grandfather!  

Anyway, I want to pack her with info so she can make my "educated" vote!  


http://www.elections.alaska.gov/ei_primary.php

State of Alaska Division of Elections, and this link should get ya to the page about the Primary.  

Then you can look at the 2 ballot measures by clicking the related link.  Then you can click the link "Who are my candidates", then you can click on  2010 District Search.  You should be able to see all of the races and candidates from there by following the directions on the top of that page.  

Hope I didn't screw that up too bad...

BTW...Looks like you guys got the army helicopter off of Knik and back to Ft. Rich last night.  You guys borrowed my lowboy to haul it yesterday.  Wish I could have come out to help.  
8/21/2010 10:48:30 AM EDT
[#16]
so who is everyone voting for in the other races LT Gov, Senate, House

I am voting for Treadwell, Fisher and Miller.
8/21/2010 12:43:19 PM EDT
[#17]
Thanks Blademan, that helps a lot!
8/22/2010 12:05:16 AM EDT
[#18]



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so who is everyone voting for in the other races LT Gov, Senate, House



I am voting for Treadwell, Fisher and Miller.
Joe Miller....





 
8/22/2010 1:09:11 AM EDT
[#19]
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Thanks Blademan, that helps a lot!


Glad I could help.  

8/22/2010 2:10:32 AM EDT
[#20]
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so who is everyone voting for in the other races LT Gov, Senate, House

I am voting for Treadwell, Fisher and Miller.


Governor = Bill Walker  

LT. Governor = Mead Treadwell...Don't like or trust Ramras.

Senate = Joe Miller...Every vote counts and Lisa needs to go.  We can't take 6 more years of her.

Congress = Don Young...Tough one for me.  But my best friend knows and worked with Sheldon Fisher and said the guy is a complete P.O.S.  
Also, if the Republicans do take the House back this fall he does actually have some seniority.  He'll start running for reelection again a year from now anyway LOL!  2 year term.



I know some people are still confused with all the static floating around about the gasline too.  uafgrad, I know you mentioned the gasline and propane.  All I can tell you guy's is to please talk to the guy's down at ANGDA.  They really have done a crap load of work and can explain it in great detail.  All it takes is to stop by their office, or just ring them up and I'm sure someone would love to chat with you and answer some questions that might be bugging you.

This was a pretty cool video they had done a year or two ago.  Some politics in it regarding the big line going to Canada and Chicago, but they were trying to play nice with Sarah at the time so she wouldn't get pissed.  It's about 15 minutes and is well worth it...

http://www.ourgas.us/  

8/22/2010 9:16:13 AM EDT
[#21]
Walker, Treadwell, Miller, Young.
8/23/2010 7:00:30 PM EDT
[#22]
All I know is that I'm voting against "Jay Ramitupyourass". He's only in it for one reason and one reason only only...HIMSELF! Wife knew him years ago and he's still the jerkoff she knew then...
8/23/2010 7:26:17 PM EDT
[#23]
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All I know is that I'm voting against "Jay Ramitupyourass". He's only in it for one reason and one reason only only...HIMSELF! Wife knew him years ago and he's still the jerkoff she knew then...


Yeah, he's a douche. He has a sense of self-worth that is far beyond him, and needs a good shit-kicking.
8/23/2010 8:38:27 PM EDT
[#24]
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All I know is that I'm voting against "Jay Ramitupyourass". He's only in it for one reason and one reason only only...HIMSELF! Wife knew him years ago and he's still the jerkoff she knew then...


Yeah, he's a douche. He has a sense of self-worth that is far beyond him, and needs a good shit-kicking.


3rd here...

I have a friend that is still trying to get the political knife out of his back from this POS.  

Same goes for Lisa.  I don't know Joe Miller, but he is saying all the right things.  Sarah Palin said all the right things too, but that didn't pan out very well.  So if anything, I'm voting against Lisa.

Her vote supporting Eric Holder disqualifies her from holding any elected office in the United States IMO.  

8/23/2010 11:33:06 PM EDT
[#25]
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Walker, Treadwell, Miller, Young.


Same here
Dont know how I will vote on prop 1 yet
Definte yes vote on prop 2
8/24/2010 12:15:10 AM EDT
[#26]
yes on prop 1, yes on prop 2
JOE MILLER! hence the 4x8' sign hanging from the balcony
Parnell
Treadwell
any others not sure yet, might be a last minute whim decision
8/24/2010 12:39:41 AM EDT
[#27]
Am I the only one voting no on 2? lol

8/24/2010 12:47:47 PM EDT
[#28]
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Am I the only one voting no on 2? lol



Are you a fan of allowing tween-age old girls to have abortions without any parent knowing? Something about my child having a major medical procedure without my knowledge turns me off....regardless of your thoughts on abortion itself.
8/24/2010 1:34:15 PM EDT
[#29]
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Am I the only one voting no on 2? lol



Are you a fan of allowing tween-age old girls to have abortions without any parent knowing? Something about my child having a major medical procedure without my knowledge turns me off....regardless of your thoughts on abortion itself.


Some parents should not know, as they will beat the shit out of their kid. My daughter's 5, I'm sure the day will come where we're gonna have the "talk" about this sorta thing, but not every child gets that privilidge.
8/24/2010 1:51:36 PM EDT
[#30]
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Am I the only one voting no on 2? lol



Are you a fan of allowing tween-age old girls to have abortions without any parent knowing? Something about my child having a major medical procedure without my knowledge turns me off....regardless of your thoughts on abortion itself.


Some parents should not know, as they will beat the shit out of their kid. My daughter's 5, I'm sure the day will come where we're gonna have the "talk" about this sorta thing, but not every child gets that privilidge.


Wow, I only have boys and I know for a fact if I had a daughter that went and had an abortion at 13 and died on the table I would severly punish the doctor that performed said operation. (CMA statement : I do not have a daughter therefore this is purely hypothetical) There are exemptions in the bill for abusive situations. I myself am not pro-life nor pro-choice, however doctors, school, and liberals encouraging childeren to get abortions without telling their parents is fucked up with a capital F. I would feel the same way if someone tried to give one of my sons a vasectomy at 13 without my knowledge as well.
8/24/2010 2:02:30 PM EDT
[#31]
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Am I the only one voting no on 2? lol



Are you a fan of allowing tween-age old girls to have abortions without any parent knowing? Something about my child having a major medical procedure without my knowledge turns me off....regardless of your thoughts on abortion itself.


Some parents should not know, as they will beat the shit out of their kid. My daughter's 5, I'm sure the day will come where we're gonna have the "talk" about this sorta thing, but not every child gets that privilidge.


Wow, I only have boys and I know for a fact if I had a daughter that went and had an abortion at 13 and died on the table I would severly punish the doctor that performed said operation. (CMA statement : I do not have a daughter therefore this is purely hypothetical) There are exemptions in the bill for abusive situations. I myself am not pro-life nor pro-choice, however doctors, school, and liberals encouraging childeren to get abortions without telling their parents is fucked up with a capital F. I would feel the same way if someone tried to give one of my sons a vasectomy at 13 without my knowledge as well.


I don't think I've ever heard of someone dying from an abortion. (besides the obvious) I can't vouch because I've never had one myself, but I don't think they actually cut you open for an abortion. A vasectomy and an abortion aren't even on the same page, but I understand what you're saying. If someone's child is sexually active at 13, then they obviously don't give a shit about what their parents' opinion on the matter is anyway. I don't know that doctors and schools encourage abortions, but I haven't been in school since 2002, and I go to the doctor maybe every 5 years and only if I have to.

That said, I would hope my daughter is comfortable to talk to us about it, but if not, I'd rather her go ahead and do it rather than keep it and fuck up her education by having a kid instead. My cousin in OR just got knocked up and is throwing away a whole life of private schooling.

8/24/2010 4:12:41 PM EDT
[#32]
Ouch; having a private education somehow trumps a babies life? Did I really just read that? I'll stop there as this is not an abortion thread...

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8/24/2010 5:08:22 PM EDT
[#33]
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Am I the only one voting no on 2? lol



Are you a fan of allowing tween-age old girls to have abortions without any parent knowing? Something about my child having a major medical procedure without my knowledge turns me off....regardless of your thoughts on abortion itself.


Some parents should not know, as they will beat the shit out of their kid. My daughter's 5, I'm sure the day will come where we're gonna have the "talk" about this sorta thing, but not every child gets that privilidge.


Wow, I only have boys and I know for a fact if I had a daughter that went and had an abortion at 13 and died on the table I would severly punish the doctor that performed said operation. (CMA statement : I do not have a daughter therefore this is purely hypothetical) There are exemptions in the bill for abusive situations. I myself am not pro-life nor pro-choice, however doctors, school, and liberals encouraging childeren to get abortions without telling their parents is fucked up with a capital F. I would feel the same way if someone tried to give one of my sons a vasectomy at 13 without my knowledge as well.


I don't think I've ever heard of someone dying from an abortion. (besides the obvious) I can't vouch because I've never had one myself, but I don't think they actually cut you open for an abortion. A vasectomy and an abortion aren't even on the same page, but I understand what you're saying. If someone's child is sexually active at 13, then they obviously don't give a shit about what their parents' opinion on the matter is anyway. I don't know that doctors and schools encourage abortions, but I haven't been in school since 2002, and I go to the doctor maybe every 5 years and only if I have to.

That said, I would hope my daughter is comfortable to talk to us about it, but if not, I'd rather her go ahead and do it rather than keep it and fuck up her education by having a kid instead. My cousin in OR just got knocked up and is throwing away a whole life of private schooling.



Quick google search returned the answer to this, however as this thread is going off course in a hurry I will cease anymore debate on this subject.
8/24/2010 5:25:25 PM EDT
[#34]
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Am I the only one voting no on 2? lol



Are you a fan of allowing tween-age old girls to have abortions without any parent knowing? Something about my child having a major medical procedure without my knowledge turns me off....regardless of your thoughts on abortion itself.


I feel the same way, well said
8/24/2010 5:30:48 PM EDT
[#35]
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Am I the only one voting no on 2? lol



Are you a fan of allowing tween-age old girls to have abortions without any parent knowing? Something about my child having a major medical procedure without my knowledge turns me off....regardless of your thoughts on abortion itself.


Some parents should not know, as they will beat the shit out of their kid. My daughter's 5, I'm sure the day will come where we're gonna have the "talk" about this sorta thing, but not every child gets that privilidge.


Wow, I only have boys and I know for a fact if I had a daughter that went and had an abortion at 13 and died on the table I would severly punish the doctor that performed said operation. (CMA statement : I do not have a daughter therefore this is purely hypothetical) There are exemptions in the bill for abusive situations. I myself am not pro-life nor pro-choice, however doctors, school, and liberals encouraging childeren to get abortions without telling their parents is fucked up with a capital F. I would feel the same way if someone tried to give one of my sons a vasectomy at 13 without my knowledge as well.


I don't think I've ever heard of someone dying from an abortion. (besides the obvious) I can't vouch because I've never had one myself, but I don't think they actually cut you open for an abortion. A vasectomy and an abortion aren't even on the same page, but I understand what you're saying. If someone's child is sexually active at 13, then they obviously don't give a shit about what their parents' opinion on the matter is anyway. I don't know that doctors and schools encourage abortions, but I haven't been in school since 2002, and I go to the doctor maybe every 5 years and only if I have to.

That said, I would hope my daughter is comfortable to talk to us about it, but if not, I'd rather her go ahead and do it rather than keep it and fuck up her education by having a kid instead. My cousin in OR just got knocked up and is throwing away a whole life of private schooling.




FWIW, the mortality rate in the US from abortions runs somewhere between .2-1.2 per 100,000
.  Its probably higher when you factor in the number of people who suffer complications afterwards and die from those
8/24/2010 5:40:15 PM EDT
[#36]
Almost forgot to vote today...  Luckily I listen to 660 AM in the afternoon after getting off work .  


GET OUT AND VOTE!!!
8/24/2010 5:46:11 PM EDT
[#37]
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Am I the only one voting no on 2? lol



Are you a fan of allowing tween-age old girls to have abortions without any parent knowing? Something about my child having a major medical procedure without my knowledge turns me off....regardless of your thoughts on abortion itself.


Some parents should not know, as they will beat the shit out of their kid. My daughter's 5, I'm sure the day will come where we're gonna have the "talk" about this sorta thing, but not every child gets that privilidge.



And I learned long ago that arguing on the internet never gets anywhere! even on the Home Town forum.

Until that day,
Dsrkop


Wow, I only have boys and I know for a fact if I had a daughter that went and had an abortion at 13 and died on the table I would severly punish the doctor that performed said operation. (CMA statement : I do not have a daughter therefore this is purely hypothetical) There are exemptions in the bill for abusive situations. I myself am not pro-life nor pro-choice, however doctors, school, and liberals encouraging childeren to get abortions without telling their parents is fucked up with a capital F. I would feel the same way if someone tried to give one of my sons a vasectomy at 13 without my knowledge as well.


I don't think I've ever heard of someone dying from an abortion. (besides the obvious) I can't vouch because I've never had one myself, but I don't think they actually cut you open for an abortion. A vasectomy and an abortion aren't even on the same page, but I understand what you're saying. If someone's child is sexually active at 13, then they obviously don't give a shit about what their parents' opinion on the matter is anyway. I don't know that doctors and schools encourage abortions, but I haven't been in school since 2002, and I go to the doctor maybe every 5 years and only if I have to.

That said, I would hope my daughter is comfortable to talk to us about it, but if not, I'd rather her go ahead and do it rather than keep it and fuck up her education by having a kid instead. My cousin in OR just got knocked up and is throwing away a whole life of private schooling.




FWIW, the mortality rate in the US from abortions runs somewhere between .2-1.2 per 100,000
.  Its probably higher when you factor in the number of people who suffer complications afterwards and die from those


8/24/2010 5:47:23 PM EDT
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Am I the only one voting no on 2? lol



Are you a fan of allowing tween-age old girls to have abortions without any parent knowing? Something about my child having a major medical procedure without my knowledge turns me off....regardless of your thoughts on abortion itself.


Some parents should not know, as they will beat the shit out of their kid. My daughter's 5, I'm sure the day will come where we're gonna have the "talk" about this sorta thing, but not every child gets that privilidge.



And I learned long ago that arguing on the internet never gets anywhere! even on the Home Town forum.

Until that day,
Dsrkop


Wow, I only have boys and I know for a fact if I had a daughter that went and had an abortion at 13 and died on the table I would severly punish the doctor that performed said operation. (CMA statement : I do not have a daughter therefore this is purely hypothetical) There are exemptions in the bill for abusive situations. I myself am not pro-life nor pro-choice, however doctors, school, and liberals encouraging childeren to get abortions without telling their parents is fucked up with a capital F. I would feel the same way if someone tried to give one of my sons a vasectomy at 13 without my knowledge as well.


I don't think I've ever heard of someone dying from an abortion. (besides the obvious) I can't vouch because I've never had one myself, but I don't think they actually cut you open for an abortion. A vasectomy and an abortion aren't even on the same page, but I understand what you're saying. If someone's child is sexually active at 13, then they obviously don't give a shit about what their parents' opinion on the matter is anyway. I don't know that doctors and schools encourage abortions, but I haven't been in school since 2002, and I go to the doctor maybe every 5 years and only if I have to.

That said, I would hope my daughter is comfortable to talk to us about it, but if not, I'd rather her go ahead and do it rather than keep it and fuck up her education by having a kid instead. My cousin in OR just got knocked up and is throwing away a whole life of private schooling.




FWIW, the mortality rate in the US from abortions runs somewhere between .2-1.2 per 100,000
.  Its probably higher when you factor in the number of people who suffer complications afterwards and die from those



And I learned long ago that arguing on the internet never gets anywhere! even on the Home Town forum.

Until that day,
Darkop


8/24/2010 6:00:54 PM EDT
[#39]
8/24/2010 6:01:32 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Almost forgot to vote today...  Luckily I listen to 660 AM in the afternoon after getting off work .  


GET OUT AND VOTE!!!


You have till 8pm
8/24/2010 6:25:15 PM EDT
[#41]
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ballot box, Check. Soap box, Check. Bullet box, Check.

NICE PIC!
8/24/2010 7:12:45 PM EDT
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Mine's not a homestate lower



But I like the "I voted today!" on the magwell
8/24/2010 7:56:55 PM EDT
[#43]
yeah I liked the magwell well to used it to cover the serial #, took these at the same time, just couldn't get the sticker to show up to well.



8/24/2010 8:05:35 PM EDT
[#44]
Very nice

What glass is that if you don't mind me asking?

ETA: 2nd and 3rd pics
8/24/2010 8:17:08 PM EDT
[#45]
Leupold VX-2 3-9x40
8/24/2010 8:49:24 PM EDT
[#46]
Voted and took my 2 monsters to show them how it works.
Girls asked lots of questions which was good.
8/24/2010 9:22:29 PM EDT
[#47]
According to ADN:

Parnell 48%, Walker 35%, Samuels 14%

Young 69.74%, Fisher 24.35%

Treadwell 53%, Ramras 31%, Burke 12%

Miller 17932 (50.78%), Murkowski 17380 (49.22%)

With approx. 27% of presincts counted.
8/24/2010 9:27:21 PM EDT
[#48]
Prop 1: I voted against restriucting free speech, even though I am against teh unions and governments using our money to lobby for more of our money.

Prop 2: Sickos want to kill. And they know that every minute that thee girls have to talk to someone and think about what iss going on they loose a chance to kill.

Everything else: I voted for people with beards, or random.

If gold miners do not do something with thier claims they loose them. if you have a gas lease and are not putting gas on te market you should loose your lease.
If those laws matched the oil companies would have a gas line built as fast as the EPA woul let them. Nevermind...
8/24/2010 9:52:49 PM EDT
[#49]
Holy shit, Miller is beating Murkowski?!?!? This does not bode well for the ruling class.



Or the Democrats are interfering in the primary to get Miller nominated.



 
8/24/2010 10:00:37 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Holy shit, Miller is beating Murkowski?!?!? This does not bode well for the ruling class.

Or the Democrats are interfering in the primary to get Miller nominated.
 


I like Miller. I think he's a much needed breath of fresh air.
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