Posted: 10/31/2010 5:28:34 PM EDT
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The HUGE amount of bullshit in this article from the local paper
Sheriff educates public on new gun law By David Hotle The JOURNAL Published: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:52 PM CDT Washington County Sheriff Jerry Dunbar has been giving lectures to groups concerning the new firearm concealed carry laws in which he hopes to educate business owners of what they can expect when the law changes on Jan.1. He also stresses the importance of training if someone chooses to carry a firearm. One of his main concerns is to inform people that just because they would have the right to carry a firearm on their person, that doesn’t give them a license to kill, or even to discharge the gun inside city limits. “I’ve had people say, ‘Now I can finally shoot the neighbor’s dog,’ or ‘If I’m in a bank and someone robs the place, I can shoot the robber,’” he said. “No. The laws governing the use of firearms won’t change. The law just allows people to carry weapons.” He said that when the weapons carry and concealed carry law, which is covered on one license, changes in January, people who would have otherwise been turned down for a license will be granted one. According to the new law, the sheriff’s department has no authority to deny a license if all regulations are met. The new law also removes the requirement to take a training course before being issued a license. Dunbar said that applicants have to prove they have had training sometime in the past from a qualified instructor. He also said the sheriff’s department would have to accept an instructor’s approval even if it is “written on a cocktail napkin.” The law governing the use of firearms is another area Dunbar is concerned about. He isn’t sure they will be taught in private classes. He stressed that if someone shoots a gun, they are responsible for where the bullet impacts and can be liable if an innocent person is shot. Dunbar said when the law changes, it will be possible to see people openly carrying shotguns or assault rifles in public. At least, people may wear side arms. While the law allows this, he believes most people with permits won’t openly carry guns. Currently, he said, about 95 percent of the people who have concealed weapon permits don’t carry a gun on a regular basis. Businesses will be able to post signs saying people aren’t allowed to bring guns inside, Dunbar said. Someone violating the law can be charged with trespassing. He believes this will be challenged in court. He also said that people who are legally intoxicated won’t be allowed to have possession of a weapon in public. what a clown sounds like he wants to scare the shit out of the public link |
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Technically what you have in red is correct. With a carry permit you could openly carry just about any dangerous weapon, offensive weapons would still be a no-no. Is it smart? I don't think so in just about all cases. There may be some municipalities that have laws in place against open carry before a certain month in 1990, I believe, that may be valid.
“I’ve had people say, ‘Now I can finally shoot the neighbor’s dog,’ or ‘If I’m in a bank and someone robs the place, I can shoot the robber,’” he said. “No. The laws governing the use of firearms won’t change. The law just allows people to carry weapons.” He is correct in that it won't give you a license to shoot the neighbors dog. But I wouldn't doubt he has heard it. On the bank robber it is in the commission of a felony. However the individual situation will determine whether you should shoot the bad guy or not. If you do it correctly you are a hero, if you don't you may be villianized to look worse than the robber. He is also correct that the laws won't change governing use of a dangerous weapon, be it a firearm or something else. He said that when the weapons carry and concealed carry law, which is covered on one license, changes in January, people who would have otherwise been turned down for a license will be granted one. According to the new law, the sheriff’s department has no authority to deny a license if all regulations are met. People who could not get a license due to prior history of certain charges and felonies will still not be able to get one. It is the ones that for whatever reason "he" thinks shouldn't have one that will get one unless he can provide a valid written reason for the denial. Then the applicant will be able to contest his denial in front of a judge. So he will still have some discretion it just won't be the final word anymore. The new law also removes the requirement to take a training course before being issued a license. Dunbar said that applicants have to prove they have had training sometime in the past from a qualified instructor. He also said the sheriff’s department would have to accept an instructor’s approval even if it is “written on a cocktail napkin.” The new law does and doesn't remove training. A training course or certain forms of proof of safe gun handling are required. The training can be many years old and still be valid. Knowledge of safe gun handling doesn't just go away. What it removes is his personal idea of acceptable training and standardizes it. I know of nothing in the new law that requires a Sheriff to accept a napkin but if all the valid info is on it maybe. I think that it needs to be on a more formal form, I am not sure if that is standardized or not but it does have to provide info on the trainers certification such as their NRA certification number. Other forms of formal trainers may have different requirements such as an LEO trainer providing civilian training. So some of what he says is true and some is not quite on par with the law. Sounds to me like he is mad he has lost his power over the citizens of his little realm. There are others like him but it will soon subside when he gets used to it. |