Posted: 3/10/2007 2:57:56 PM EDT
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i have to get my BMG press and powder measure coming (they'll both be hornady products) and i'll be set. not shown is plenty of stuff like the large dillon tumbler (the best one i've ever used), the rcbs motorized prep station (a must have for those of you who like well prepared brass in a hurry), various tools, etc. i'm also buying a Denver Instrument lab scale that can read 4/100 of one grain of powder. one of the guys on FCSA.org works there and has the scoop on some great ultra accurate scales. cost is under $300.00 so why not? an automatic from RCBS is nearly that for the combo and for precision use they are very inaccurate. for average use those like them (PACT, Lyman, RCBS, etc) will do fine. i'm going to throw my charge to my weight less, 1gr or 2gr and trickle onto the scale to finish each round. i have high hopes that i'll finally be to a spot where i can reload more and set up less. the hornady products i have or have switched to are great. i like the sliding collar inside the dies as it holds the bullet in tight concentricity. it also aids holding those tiny little shits like the .17, .20, and .22 cals with flat bases that are finger pinchers. the lock-n-load concept is fantastic and it not only speeds the process but is super easy. the progressive is fantastic - that is all i can say about it. i haven't run mass quantities yet, so i'll have to post later on the OAL consistency and powder consistency. here's a peak after i cleaned the area up a little.   
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are those store bought reloading blocks? some one has way to much money. my reloading blocks are just made out of 2x6"s.........im just messing with you. one of these days you will have to get yourself a handgun to load for, then we will really find out haw fast that progressive can crank them out. bb |
no BS there... i wish there was a blend of automatic trickler and high precision scale, but today it doesn't exist. i considered for quite a while buying one like some of you guys have. i just didn't want to spend the $ if it wasn't going to be as accurate as i wanted. this is relative of course. my definition of accurate powder dropping, is a little more anal than most folks i'd guess. working up a charge weight won't be so bad if i plan this correctly. i'd like to buy a frankford arsenal power trickler and slow it down with voltage or gear it down. this way i can throw a charge with a powder measure and then dump it in the hopper in a few seconds. i'll finish out the trickle with a button instead of my fingers in the remaining 10 to 15 seconds. this should essentially take the same amount of time the other auto scales take while being ultra precise. make sense? it sounds good in theory, so we'll see how it plays out in the real world. the reason i'm so wound up on an ultra precision scale is due to the two months worth of research i've made on the current offerings. i don't want to pee in anyone's cheerios, so don't read further if you're easily offended. as i understand, the average "beam" scale like the ones most of us use are highly inaccurate. most times a full .1gr off +/- every time... the automatics are just as bad, and the Lyman and PACT finished last on the list. RCBS, made by PACT ironically, was the best auto out of the three independent tests i reviewed. there are some guys on FCSA.org that have provided me with years of information they've gathered. basically there is no shortcut. the cheap balance beam scales are fine, as are the autos for basic stuff like pistol, etc. for precision rounds it isn't good enough. there is no current auto or combination that fills the bill. i'm hoping ot achieve this in a round about way. we'll see... |
It's kind of funny to hear you speak of ultra accurate powder measures considering in the past you have mentioned how 1-2/10gr variance hasn't proved to be any less accurate.  Believe me I am just as anal about it as you. That is why I bought what I bought. My research led me to believe that the lyman was the best of the three. Of course I am not a member of FCSA so I don't have access to the research done on there. Either way I am very pleased with mine, as I am sure you will be with yours. It sounds like a pretty trick scale. Had I known about it sooner I would have most likely gone that route. Count me in on the get together. Schedule permitting of course.... |
+1 i never used to think so, but then i reflected on what i was shooting and when... minute differences at 100 are big differences at 1000... so i thought it best to go with some that is repeatable and accurate. i'm told they will measure heavy breathing...  i guess we'll see. from ALL i read, they say the same thing. the dispenser part of the combo is great. it happens to be the scale that is the weak link - ie, inaccurate... i guess we'll see. when i get mine, you should borrow it and double check yours periodically and we'll see if we can tell a difference that is worthwhile... |
the denvers will measure breathing as well as wether or not the HVAC unit in teh room is running. i use one at work many times a day and we must be careful to make sure that our "zero" doesnt change. bb |
