Posted: 12/4/2015 8:36:56 AM EDT
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Anyone know if the emagine theater in Macomb township has a no firearms sign? It seats approx 1070 people and I would like to carry next time I see a movie. |
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Legally who cares if there is a sign...it holds no weight of law. Just be sure it's under 2500 seating capacity and conceal away. But giving your money to anti gunners is another story  The sign carries some weight, as you're trespassing if you ignore it. Legally, the theater could call the police without notifying you and they could charge you with trespassing if the LEOs find you carrying. However, many places would simply ask you to leave and not bother calling the cops if you complied. |
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Doesn't michigan law require that you be personally notified before most trespasses can be considered criminal? I'm no lawyer, but I'm not sure merely posting a sign would satisfy the notification requirement for Michigan's weak trespassing law. 750.552 Trespass upon lands or premises of another; exception; violation; penalty; "process server" defined.
Sec. 552. (1) Except as otherwise provided in subsection (2), a person shall not do any of the following: (a) Enter the lands or premises of another without lawful authority after having been forbidden to do so by the owner or occupant or the agent of the owner or occupant. (b) Remain without lawful authority on the land or premises of another after being notified to depart by the owner or occupant or the agent of the owner or occupant. (c) Enter or remain without lawful authority on fenced or posted farm property of another person without the consent of the owner or his or her lessee or agent. A request to leave the premises is not a necessary element for a violation of this subdivision. This subdivision does not apply to a person who is in the process of attempting, by the most direct route, to contact the owner or his or her lessee or agent to request consent. (2) Subsection (1) does not apply to a process server who is on the land or premises of another while in the process of attempting, by the most direct route, to serve process upon any of the following: (a) An owner or occupant of the land or premises. (b) An agent of the owner or occupant of the land or premises. (c) A lessee of the land or premises. (3) A person who violates subsection (1) is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than 30 days or by a fine of not more than $250.00, or both. (4) As used in this section, "process server" means a person authorized under the revised judicature act of 1961, 1961 PA 236, MCL 600.101 to 600.9947, or supreme court rule to serve process. History: Add. 1951, Act 102, Imd. Eff. May 31, 1951 ;-- Am. 2007, Act 167, Eff. Mar. 20, 2008 ;-- Am. 2013, Act 230, Imd. Eff. Dec. 26, 2013 |
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Doesn't michigan law require that you be personally notified before most trespasses can be considered criminal? I'm no lawyer, but I'm not sure merely posting a sign would satisfy the notification requirement for Michigan's weak trespassing law. 750.552 Trespass upon lands or premises of another; exception; violation; penalty; "process server" defined.Sec. 552. (1) Except as otherwise provided in subsection (2), a person shall not do any of the following: (a) Enter the lands or premises of another without lawful authority after having been forbidden to do so by the owner or occupant or the agent of the owner or occupant. (b) Remain without lawful authority on the land or premises of another after being notified to depart by the owner or occupant or the agent of the owner or occupant. I'm not sure how it would play out, but I assumed subsection (a) would include no firearms signs posted at each entrance as being forbidden. I interpret subsection (b) to mean more notification to depart than the signs though. |
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Ask a manager what their policy is. Why in the hell would you do that? It doesn't matter what feelings the manager has or what views he has, if there is no sign and it's under 2500 seats it's good to go. Asking a manager if you can bring a gun in is asking for a panic, especially an anti. |
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We're done with theaters in this household. I've had three bad experiences out of the last three movies I have seen, one of which was their $5 an hour Silverback Ape looking thru my GF's handbag to make sure she didn't have any weapons.
Let them choke on DVD sales, I'm tired of filthy seats and flea bites. They don't act like they need my business or want me as a customer. |
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The sign carries some weight, as you're trespassing if you ignore it. Legally, the theater could call the police without notifying you and they could charge you with trespassing if the LEOs find you carrying. However, many places would simply ask you to leave and not bother calling the cops if you complied. Quoted:
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Legally who cares if there is a sign...it holds no weight of law. Just be sure it's under 2500 seating capacity and conceal away. But giving your money to anti gunners is another story The sign carries some weight, as you're trespassing if you ignore it. Legally, the theater could call the police without notifying you and they could charge you with trespassing if the LEOs find you carrying. However, many places would simply ask you to leave and not bother calling the cops if you complied. No violating a sign does not equal legal trespass. What if you didn't see it, for example? If a tiny no guns sign buried in a wall of text in the boot On my way! corner of the door constitutes trespass than what about the giant fucking 10 foot tall letters on the screen your paying to look directly at that say no talking and no cell phones? Could the dipshits who talk during the movie get charged with trespassing too? The idea that those stupid signs can result in a trespass charge for ignoring them is laughable, yet the ridiculous myth persists. |
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I'm not sure how it would play out, but I assumed subsection (a) would include no firearms signs posted at each entrance as being forbidden. I interpret subsection (b) to mean more notification to depart than the signs though. Quoted:
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Doesn't michigan law require that you be personally notified before most trespasses can be considered criminal? I'm no lawyer, but I'm not sure merely posting a sign would satisfy the notification requirement for Michigan's weak trespassing law. 750.552 Trespass upon lands or premises of another; exception; violation; penalty; "process server" defined.Sec. 552. (1) Except as otherwise provided in subsection (2), a person shall not do any of the following: (a) Enter the lands or premises of another without lawful authority after having been forbidden to do so by the owner or occupant or the agent of the owner or occupant. (b) Remain without lawful authority on the land or premises of another after being notified to depart by the owner or occupant or the agent of the owner or occupant. I'm not sure how it would play out, but I assumed subsection (a) would include no firearms signs posted at each entrance as being forbidden. I interpret subsection (b) to mean more notification to depart than the signs though. That would be a hell of a stretch to say a sign (which, again, one could easily miss) constitutes either, but if you want to play that game fine: the sign does not say do not enter, it does not even say do not enter if you have a gun, it just says no guns so technically it would be the gun trespassing. It is actually an important distinction because it does not actually say do not enter, it only implies it. But it's a silly argument that violating a no guns sign is a trespass anyway. |