Posted: 3/28/2011 6:04:57 AM EDT
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This might be a dumb question but I couldn't find the answer anywhere so I figured I'd ask. Are we allowed to travel (i.e. driving within the state of MI) with ammo and loaded mags in the same case with our gun, I know some states require them to be separate but since we don't live in a communist republic are we ok? I know you don't want to get caught by the DNR even looking at a deer with a gun in your trunk, but is it legal to have loaded mags in my case so long as I'm not enjoying the wildlife?
Thanks, Lee |
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Other then hunting regs, I was not able to find anything regarding transporting a magazine or clip loaded.
750.227d Transporting or possessing firearm in or upon motor vehicle or self-propelled vehicle designed for land travel; conditions; violation as misdemeanor; penalty. Sec. 227d. (1) Except as otherwise permitted by law, a person shall not transport or possess in or upon a motor vehicle or any self-propelled vehicle designed for land travel a firearm, other than a pistol, unless the firearm is unloaded and is 1 or more of the following: (a) Taken down. (b) Enclosed in a case. (c) Carried in the trunk of the vehicle. (d) Inaccessible from the interior of the vehicle. (2) A person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 90 days, or a fine of not more than $100.00, or both. History: Add. 1981, Act 103, Eff. Mar. 31, 1982. 750.231a Exceptions to MCL 750.227(2); definitions (d) To a person while transporting a pistol for a lawful purpose that is licensed by the owner or occupant of the motor vehicle in compliance with section 2 of 1927 PA 372, MCL 28.422, and the pistol is unloaded in a closed case designed for the storage of firearms in the trunk of the vehicle. (e) To a person while transporting a pistol for a lawful purpose that is licensed by the owner or occupant of the motor vehicle in compliance with section 2 of 1927 PA 372, MCL 28.422, and the pistol is unloaded in a closed case designed for the storage of firearms in a vehicle that does not have a trunk and is not readily accessible to the occupants of the vehicle. |
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Here is an MSP bulletin that says loaded detachable mags are ok.
Click here for MSP bulletin Where the disconnect is that DNR law specifically says "unloaded in magazine and chamber" this is generally only applied if the magazine is integral to the weapon. |
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Having loaded mags with your firearm is considered the same as having the gun in question loaded. FALSE Loaded mags are fine as long as they are not inserted in the gun. Transporting ammunition and long-guns MCL 750.227d describes the lawful way to transport a shotgun or rifle. While they must be unloaded, they may be transported in the same case as ammunition (including loaded magazines). |
| Gotta disagree with you Dez. Magazines are not firearms. A loaded magazine does not make a loaded gun. Can I carry loaded mags into a school legally? I would think so seeing as how it's not a gun. Do I need to fill out purchase papers for mags? Nope, not a gun. Show me the link to MI law that says no loaded mags, please. |
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Gotta disagree with you Dez. Magazines are not firearms. A loaded magazine does not make a loaded gun. Can I carry loaded mags into a school legally? I would think so seeing as how it's not a gun. Do I need to fill out purchase papers for mags? Nope, not a gun. Show me the link to MI law that says no loaded mags, please. I gotta disagree Blackhawk. The law states That you are supposed to transport ammo in what ever divice its in in a seperate container. If the ammo is in mags that does not make a difference it still has to be in a container that is not holding the firearm. UNLESS its a registered pistol that is on your person. 
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OK, let me clarify... Loaded mags are Ok to be carried. But how I see the the legal update is that it must be seperate from the rifle. ....I.E., in the case, not in the magwell. But as G-Lock says. Its best to keep them in a seperate container alltogether.
And I assume we are talking about Rifles or non CPL holders. |
