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1/29/2013 1:20:00 PM EDT
Have any of you had any experience with setting up a Trust here in Tennesse for your NFA firearms, suppressors, etc. And if so, would you mind providing any tips, etc? I know there is information on the Armory side, but wanted information for experiences in our State. Thanks
1/29/2013 2:32:46 PM EDT
[#1]
I had mine done by Chip Cain of Cain Law Firm in Nashville. Did a great job (all comm via phone and e-mail), fair price, nice guy, knows NFA.
He apparently uses the base document from Goldman at guntrustlawyer.com, modded for TN and for the individual.
There aren't really a lot of state-specific questions to answer, the best way to learn more might be to visit http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_6/50_Class_3_Legal_Issues_And_Questions.html

 
1/29/2013 3:11:45 PM EDT
[#2]
Ah, exactly what I needed. Thank you, sir.
1/29/2013 5:39:22 PM EDT
[#3]
I used Patrick Stegall out of Memphis. Everything was handled over the phone and via email. He charged a 1 time fee, and every amendment to the trust or questions about the trust are covered by that fee. Here's the link
1/29/2013 5:48:39 PM EDT
[#4]
John Harris, Executive Director of the Tennessee Firearms Association, is well versed with NFA trusts.

He's in Nashville.

David
1/29/2013 6:33:28 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks again.  Anyone have any idea on the price range would could expect to see for a "gun trust"?
1/29/2013 6:49:12 PM EDT
[#6]
Anyone near Knoxville?
1/30/2013 11:38:49 AM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


Anyone near Knoxville?
This probably isn't worth posting since I can't recall the guy's name...but there's a Knoxville attorney who sets up at gunshows, offering a prepaid legal plan for gun owners in case you're involved in a shoot. I'm pretty sure he offered NFA trusts as well. Perhaps someone here has his flyer from a show?



That said- I'm much closer to Knoxville, and still had no probs using the Nashville atty Cain via phone and email. I didn't feel this particular project lost anything by not having FTF meeting, probably went quicker.





 
1/30/2013 11:40:16 AM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:


Thanks again.  Anyone have any idea on the price range would could expect to see for a "gun trust"?


It's been just a few years since mine was done, and I only talked to two guys...but 400-450 comes to mind.



 
2/24/2013 5:05:39 PM EDT
[#9]
Stegall in Memphis is $500 or a little more. I recommend him if you like to do business locally. If you don't care, then there's a link on www.medicfirearms.com for 199Trust. They charge 199 and have a 24 hr turn around although its usually faster.
2/24/2013 6:38:36 PM EDT
[#10]
Anybody used 199trust.com?
2/24/2013 7:09:42 PM EDT
[#11]
Quicken Willmaker is another option. I didn't go that route, but I know others have.
2/24/2013 7:10:52 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Thanks again.  Anyone have any idea on the price range would could expect to see for a "gun trust"?


$600-700, I believe.
2/26/2013 6:44:42 AM EDT
[#13]
I've sent several people to 199Trust and they've all been happy and no issues with the form 4s.
2/26/2013 7:59:31 AM EDT
[#14]
What benefit is there to using a trust in TN?
2/26/2013 8:34:13 AM EDT
[#15]
Patrick Stegall told me that his rate is now $520.
2/26/2013 8:38:05 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
What benefit is there to using a trust in TN?


Legally, when you buy an NFA item as an individual, only you can have access to it. I have a trust with my wife and children on it, so that my children can use my NFA items when they're old enough to. If they were all my individual items, I would have to be present, & in control of them. With a trust, I can store mine and my son's firearms in the same safe.
2/26/2013 9:25:46 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
What benefit is there to using a trust in TN?


Legally, when you buy an NFA item as an individual, only you can have access to it. I have a trust with my wife and children on it, so that my children can use my NFA items when they're old enough to. If they were all my individual items, I would have to be present, & in control of them. With a trust, I can store mine and my son's firearms in the same safe.


And in addition, your beneficiaries won't have to pay for a tax stamp after your death to retain the items. Trusts are a no brainer.
2/26/2013 9:48:39 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
What benefit is there to using a trust in TN?


Legally, when you buy an NFA item as an individual, only you can have access to it. I have a trust with my wife and children on it, so that my children can use my NFA items when they're old enough to. If they were all my individual items, I would have to be present, & in control of them. With a trust, I can store mine and my son's firearms in the same safe.


Interesting. So everyone goes through the fed background check and then gets approved for the same firearm, suppressor, etc?
2/26/2013 5:54:04 PM EDT
[#19]
Are there limits regarding how many people you can have on a trust, or how they relate to you? Can I have my brother in law and my dad plus spouses and children? Thanks!

2/26/2013 8:24:07 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Interesting. So everyone goes through the fed background check and then gets approved for the same firearm, suppressor, etc?

No.  There is no background check when using a trust. However, the ATF is currently proposing a rule change for trusts, corporations, etc....where a "responsible party" must be designated, and they would have to submit fingerprints for a background check.

Quoted:
And in addition, your beneficiaries won't have to pay for a tax stamp after your death to retain the items. Trusts are a no brainer.

True.  However, NFA transfers to a lawful heirs are tax-exempt anyway, so there would be no tax stamp required even if the NFA item was not in a trust.  Transfers to lawful heirs are done on an ATF Form 5.
2/26/2013 8:34:02 PM EDT
[#21]
Does the Form 5 cover suppressors? I know it mentions them under firearms, but I did not think it was under the specific section for the transfer. Either way, less headaches and "applications" to determine if you are allowed to posses or transfer with a trust.
2/27/2013 4:46:45 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Does the Form 5 cover suppressors?


Yes.  The Form 5 covers all NFA items.

3/1/2013 9:46:11 PM EDT
[#23]
199trust is good to go. I have used them with no issues. Good guy to do buisness with.
3/2/2013 2:52:23 PM EDT
[#24]
Appreciate the info. I am going to be getting a trust soon and was about to ask who y'all used