Posted: 10/12/2009 8:15:48 PM EDT
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Well I am finally getting to come back to the States for some leave, haven't been home in 18 months. I am planning to get my Carry Permit while I am home, well at least apply for it. I have a couple questions that I know some of you smart fellows know the answer to.
1. I am currently overseas, and will return overseas, after 30 days of leave in Dec-Jan. I know that 30 days isn't enough time to apply for and receive the permit but can I apply for it while I am home? It gets mailed to you right, you don't have to pick it up in person? I would just have it mailed to my permanent home of record (parents house). 2. I found this on the state.tn.us website while reading the carry permit info: # Effective July 1, 2005, Tennessee handgun carry permit law will now allow certain applicants already exempt from complying with firing range provisions of the current statute to also be exempt from any classroom requirements. Those current exceptions are applicants who prove to the department that within five (5) years from the date of application for handgun permit, the applicant has: 1. Been certified by the police officer's standards and training commission, or 2. successfully completed training at the law enforcement training academy; or 3. successfully completed the firearms training course required for armed security guards; or 4. successfully completed all handgun training of not less than four (4) hours as required by any branch of the military. So reading #4, does that mean I don't have to do the classroom training, firing portion? If I don't that would save me a few bucks. Also, how do I "prove to the department" that I have completed 4 hours of handgun training in the last 5 years. I have completed way more than that obviously but the only thing I have to prove anything it a copy of my Basic Training Record that I can print but it only list the date I last qualified with the pistol. 3. If I do have to do the classroom and firing portion, any recommendations on where to do it around Knoxville, Roane Country even better? Thanks in advance, I really appreciate any info you might have. If any of you are around Roane County, maybe we can get together for a beer in Dec or Jan. Mike |
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When I was working in my company training room people who needed verification of training just typed up a memo with the unit's letterhead and then I had the CO sign it. I don't remember the details but it was basically just saying that the following service member has received X hours of pistol marksmanship training.
I know there were people in my unit who applied for TN permits while on R&R last deployment and got them mailed to them overseas. |
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Thanks to both of you for the replies. With proof of military training are there any training/qualification requirements or just apply and wait?
ETA: If anyone has an example of what their unit has used I would appreciate a copy. If I can get a copy of one that has worked it would be easy to draft one up for my CO to sign. EDA 2: Anyone have an idea if this would work on a unit letterhead? Appreciate any feedback you may have. From: Commanding Officer, XXXX To: Department of Safety, State of Tennessee Subj: VERIFICATION OF HANDGUN TRAINING, nicholsmf / XXX-XX-XXXX Ref: (a) Title 39, Tennessee Code (b) Marine Corps Order 3574.2K 1. Per ref (a), the qualifications that must be met to apply for a Tennessee Handgun Carry Permit can be waived for an applicant who has successfully completed handgun training of not less than four (4) hours as required by any branch of the military within (5) years from the date of application. The purpose of this correspondence is to certify that nicholsmf has completed this required training. 2. After reviewing service records, I can verify that within the last 5 years nicholsmf has completed 170 hours of handgun training. Per ref (b) all Marines armed with the M9 service pistol must complete training annually in weapons safety, weapons handling procedures, preventative maintenance, engaging stationary targets, engaging targets of limited exposure, engaging targets during lowlight conditions and darkness, engaging multiple targets, and engaging moving targets. This training is conducted both in the classroom and on a live fire pistol range. In addition to the annual requirements, nicholsmf was a firing member of the 2007 Marine Corps Air Station Yuma, Arizona marksmanship team, firing the M9 service pistol in competition. X. X. XXXX |
| That looks as good as, or better than most of the requests that came across my desk. To my knowledge all of the ones I was asked to verify were approved so I would venture to say you are good to go, but since I don't work for the Dept of Safety i can't say for sure. |
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Even if you do not have to take the class. I recommend you do.
I qualified on the M9 while in the Army. While this will do you for the shooting/ safety portion it will not do you for the legal and practical issues with carrying. I teach in Johnson City. If you are interested I will let you sit through the class for free. As a thanks for your service. Aaron |
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Even if you do not have to take the class. I recommend you do. I qualified on the M9 while in the Army. While this will do you for the shooting/ safety portion it will not do you for the legal and practical issues with carrying. I teach in Johnson City. If you are interested I will let you sit through the class for free. As a thanks for your service. Aaron Thank you for the offer. I am considering taking the class for those exact reasons. I am always open to learning something new |
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Well may Dad went by the DMV office and picked up an application for me. The lady at the DMV inquired about whether he had taken the class. He said the application was for me and that I had verification from my command that I had completed the required amount of handgun training in the military. She said that did not matter, they would not process my application without completion of the class by a certified instructor.
Is this a recent change to the law or was the lady incorrect. My Dad told her that according to the Dept of Safety website she was incorrect and she got her boss to come up front and confirm that military requirements are no different from anyone else because a recent change to the law required everyone to take the class regardless of their job. Anyone know? I really appreciate the assistance |
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Quoted: Not that I am aware of. But Recommend you check the TN website for information.Well may Dad went by the DMV office and picked up an application for me. The lady at the DMV inquired about whether he had taken the class. He said the application was for me and that I had verification from my command that I had completed the required amount of handgun training in the military. She said that did not matter, they would not process my application without completion of the class by a certified instructor. Is this a recent change to the law or was the lady incorrect. My Dad told her that according to the Dept of Safety website she was incorrect and she got her boss to come up front and confirm that military requirements are no different from anyone else because a recent change to the law required everyone to take the class regardless of their job. Anyone know? I really appreciate the assistance As mentioned, I would also recommend taking the class. I did not have to, but did it anyway and was glad I did. Learned some things that might keep me from getting sued. |