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2/24/2012 2:53:39 PM EDT
i am thinking about buy up some land to build a SHTF reterat ,where should i look?  and where shouldnt i look to start a retreat? any advice?
2/24/2012 4:05:56 PM EDT
[#1]
Start off with a 72 hour kit and build on that.

Remember the basics: Food, Water, Shelter, Warmth, and Protection(firearm, etc. and the training that goes with it).  Medical supplies need to be considered with this.

As far as a location to run, I am not of the mindset that I will be going anywhere unless I ABSOLUTELY must.  If I gotta go then there will be tens of thousands of people going as well and none of us will be as ready as we think we may be.  The direction I head will be that of friends as I don't foresee anything good out of leaving my home where I know my surroundings and how to protect myself.
2/25/2012 1:25:16 AM EDT
[#2]
If you are buying in the mountains, it won't be accessible for many months without a snow cat, snow shoes, or a sled.

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2/25/2012 4:38:40 AM EDT
[#3]
I've done some thinking about this, and come to the conclusion that a support group is more important than location.

take my situation as an illustration of what I mean: I live in a rural enclave in northwest wyoming. twenty miles from town, surrounded by national forest. we certainly have the skills and means to be self-sufficient for some time.

when my wife and I talk this over, however, we have considered leaving should the need arise. specifically, packing my job trailer and moving to Emery county, Utah, where my wife's family has their own small neighborhood of homes in a small town there. several generations, highly skilled and motivated people, and they're family.

If we stay here, we are essentially on our own. there are just very few neighbors nearby. plus, for five months of the year, when the county plows stop and I don't have gas for my plow, we would be on skis. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it limits your options.

another option is a prepared camp in the mountain range behind my house. this could be reached on horseback, or by snowmobile in the winter.

the problem I see in a shtf situation is being left in peace. in my area, there would be little concern with interlopers from outside- we're just too far away. but, because of the town, county, national parks and federal agencies, we have way too many law enforcement people. my fear is that they would feel the need to justify their existence by bothering people who just want to be left alone.

down in Utah, we would be far enough from the wasatch front. also, I would be part of a platoon-sized group of men, family. there would be few leo around. this seems to be a recipe for a peaceful existence. also, more fun, plenty of social interaction, lots of kids around. also, we could fire up the plow truck and take the horses.

so I think the group you are with is more important than the piece of ground.


3/3/2012 12:37:29 PM EDT
[#4]
Start with your car. The 72hr kit was a great suggestion. There's a good chance you're not going to be at home when the SHTF. If you are, you're one of the lucky ones. The rest will be at work, or on the road in between. I'm one of the fortunate few who is able to have my own lock-up at work where I can have a go-to kit with rifle & mags, food, water, 1st aid, bob etc.
What Teton said above me about groups is key. Even if you don't start out in one it will get that way. Armies of One don't survive. You can't cover all your corners and never sleep, nor know every skill there is, nor evade injury or illness for the duration of your situation. Packs of people will likely form on both fronts, the 'Them' that didn't think ahead and will go hunting in bands for the 'Those' that squirreled stores away.
I live and work alone in the heart of the city. Even with thousands of rounds and months of freeze dried food I probably won't last until the first fires begin. But at least I won't run out of toilet paper...
3/14/2012 6:27:42 AM EDT
[#5]
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