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10/28/2008 12:45:29 PM EDT
OK, so I hate my eothingy and an Aimpoint isn't much better. It's my poor eyesight astigmatism that causes blooming and fuzzies like you would not believe. Yes I can use irons, but as one who spent many days gawking through a PM6 with mil-dot reticle I now hanker for something a little more scope-like but still 1x for CQB. I though all was lost until Leupold shipped this guy:

Leupold Prismatic ARFCOM discussion

Yes, I know it can't cowitness (I don't care)

Yes I know I may need to put it on a QD base to make my BUIS usable

I don't know where to buy it locally and would prefer to spend my money locally.

What say the gurus of OR?

Cheers
7.62
10/28/2008 2:09:54 PM EDT
[#1]
I wouldn't think the Leupold would be any better for you than the Aimpoint was.

My suggestion...start looking at Shotgun scopes with a larger turkey reticle, or a 1-4x low powered variable.

They may be what you are looking for.
10/28/2008 2:35:58 PM EDT
[#2]
my poor eyesight astigmatism


How 'bout some eye glasses or contact lenses? That would solve the real problem.  

I have to wear glasses (or contacts) whenever I want to see. My last eye doc actually took the time to dial in my stig correction with contacts when I explained to him about the whole 'dot looks like a Nike swoosh' thing.  BSW

10/28/2008 2:54:38 PM EDT
[#3]
I already am wearing glasses and plan to have my eyes retested next month, so that might make a difference, but the Leupold reticle appeals nonetheless due to being black with optional illumination. Just wish I could find one to look through.

Cheers
7.62
10/28/2008 3:24:29 PM EDT
[#4]
How 'bout some eye glasses or contact lenses? That would solve the real problem.

I have to wear glasses (or contacts) whenever I want to see. My last eye doc actually took the time to dial in my stig correction with contacts when I explained to him about the whole 'dot looks like a Nike swoosh' thing. BSW


I had Lasik done a year and a half ago but still have a slight stig. that is correctable with my glasses.  My T1 dot looks like a cluster of grapes without the glasses and a circular cluster with them, so glasses are not always the solution to the issue.

I'm not an eye doc, but I think there is more to it than that.  Even so, the only time you notice it is when looking for it.  In the field a dot is not a scope and if you are using as one you are misapplying the device to the situation.

It's like flashlight freaks that have a cow over an LED light being a "bluish" tint when you can only notice it on a white wall.

Too much is made of the dot issue IMO, just shoot it.
10/28/2008 5:05:54 PM EDT
[#5]
No sights; area fire from the hip.
10/28/2008 7:10:17 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
No sights; area fire from the hip.


LOL!

Anyhow, I found one locally to have a peer through. It works. Stadia line keep you upright and level, there's a small dot for precise work, and a nice big circle for up-close and personal. The lines are rather thin compared with the CQT, and it's nowhere near as in-your-face as a dot or hologram. I'm thinkin I like it... I might have to stump up the $499 if I can't find it on the EE.

Cheers
7.62
10/28/2008 7:13:10 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
OK, so I hate my eothingy and an Aimpoint isn't much better. It's my poor eyesight astigmatism that causes blooming and fuzzies like you would not believe. Yes I can use irons, but as one who spent many days gawking through a PM6 with mil-dot reticle I now hanker for something a little more scope-like but still 1x for CQB. I though all was lost until Leupold shipped this guy:

Leupold Prismatic ARFCOM discussion

Yes, I know it can't cowitness (I don't care)

Yes I know I may need to put it on a QD base to make my BUIS usable

I don't know where to buy it locally and would prefer to spend my money locally.

What say the gurus of OR?

Cheers
7.62




The Prismatic is perfect for people with astygmatism (sp?).  I have seen one first hand and I do have a slight styg - the reticle is very bright and crisp.

I have an eotech and the ring and dot are slightly haloey (new word, LOL)

You will love it.
10/28/2008 7:41:15 PM EDT
[#8]
elcid - thanks for the encouragement. So far it's the best I have seen!

Cheers
7.62