Posted: 5/5/2008 10:17:53 PM EDT
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I'm sorry guys to bring another one up since there have been so many the past few weeks, but I have to ask. What would you recommend an out-of-stater to do in regards to obtaining a OR CHL? I have my WA already, but since I work in OR, well, it only makes sense to have my OR CHL as well. I have had a plan for a few months now to make it to Fisherman's the second Saturday of the month. Unfortunately last month was fishing, now this month a wedding. Is there a different class around that is still somewhat cheap and have fairly decent days/hours to attend the class? I'm Mon-Fri 8am-5pm, and usually booked on the weekends, but I don't want to wait another month+ to get my OR CHL. Also, I was just going to head down to Multnomah County Sheriff's Dept. Should I be heading to Clackamas or any other surrounding for whatever reason? I'm in Vancouver. Thanks in advance, and sorry for the long post.  Trevor |
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I cant help ya with the non-res part. But in my non-lawyer opinion you might be OK to CCW as a non-res while fishing. Maybe even going to and from. 166.260 Persons not affected by ORS 166.250. (1) ORS 166.250 does not apply to or affect: (a) Sheriffs, constables, marshals, police officers, whether active or honorably retired, parole and probation officers or other duly appointed peace officers. (b) Any person summoned by any such officer to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace, while said person so summoned is actually engaged in assisting the officer. (c) The possession or transportation by any merchant of unloaded firearms as merchandise. (d) Active or reserve members of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard or Marine Corps of the United States, or of the National Guard, when on duty. (e) Organizations which are by law authorized to purchase or receive weapons described in ORS 166.250 from the United States, or from this state. (f) Duly authorized military or civil organizations while parading, or the members thereof when going to and from the places of meeting of their organization. (g) A corrections officer while transporting or accompanying an individual convicted of or arrested for an offense and confined in a place of incarceration or detention while outside the confines of the place of incarceration or detention. (h) A person who is licensed under ORS 166.291 and 166.292 to carry a concealed handgun. (2) Except for persons who are otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm under ORS 166.250 (1)(c) or 166.270, ORS 166.250 does not apply to or affect: (a) Members of any club or organization, for the purpose of practicing shooting at targets upon the established target ranges, whether public or private, while such members are using any of the firearms referred to in ORS 166.250 upon such target ranges, or while going to and from such ranges. (b) Licensed hunters or fishermen while engaged in hunting or fishing, or while going to or returning from a hunting or fishing expedition. (3) The exceptions listed in subsection (1)(b) to (h) of this section constitute affirmative defenses to a charge of violating ORS 166.250. [Amended by 1977 c.207 §1; 1991 c.67 §36; 1993 c.735 §1; 1995 c.670 §2; 1999 c.1040 §3] |
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Q: I am a Washington resident who has recently obtained a concealed weapons permit issued by the State of Washington. Is my permit valid to carry a concealed weapon while in the State of Oregon? If not, can a non-Oregon resident apply for a permit? A: Oregon does not recognize concealed weapons permits from any other state. If you wish to review the law you can go to: http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/166.html and read 166.291. As you can see from ORS 166.291(8) which says "The county sheriff may waive the residency requirement in subsection (1)(c) of this section for a resident of a contiguous state who has a compelling business interest or other legitimate demonstrated need," the sheriff of each county has some discretion for a resident of a contiguous state. You would need to check with the sheriffs to see what their requirements are. |
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You can take any course taught by an NRA certified trainer that includes an element of handgun safety. Doesn't matter where in the world you take it. There is no specific Oregon CHL class. If you have documented evidence of having been certified by police or military, that is sufficient too (although documented evidence for this is hard to come by). A for where to go to apply, I would suggest that any county adjoining Portland would be a poor choice. Take a trip to Astoria ... |
| I would apply in the county you work in. If you ask in the WA HTF you will probably get some WA residents to advise you on what to put on the application for reason. I know there are several there who have OR non-resident CHLs and at least two of them from Multnomah County. |
Ok - if Mutnomah issues them. Its up to the whim of the Sheriff. Multnomah is known for making life more difficult than is necessary for gun owners. History of refusing perfectly legal people - until challenged on it, adding unnecessary and irrelevant questions to the application form etc. That was why I suggested a county where I KNOW people have had success. I trust JAFO enough to think its worth a try if he knows no residents who have a CHL from there. |
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To add to the above... Documentation of shooting IDPA/IPSC or other shooting sport with a handgun is all you need. At minimum you can go to http://idpa.com, become a member and take your card into the SO for proof of training. I suggest you actually shoot some IDPA/IPSC though and become proficient with your handgun. It's fun also. PS. A DD-214 with a handgun qual is sufficient also. |
DD214 with a Pistol qualification.  True, you tend to have to give up years of your life to get one of those - the NRA class is much faster. And safer. 
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So long as you think to get the paper. I have had people come to me, ex military, and in one case an ex-LAPD officer with 20+ years, and didn't have any paper to prove he had ever qualified ... so he had to come do an NRA course to get his CHL. |
Perfect! Thank you cackman! eta - oregon-shooter - I completely agree with you on the classes/training. Unfortunately, I have a ton of things going on right now, and can't seem to find time for much of anything. I would love to one of these days........ Thank you guys, appreciate your time. Trevor |
I can't speak for them and don't know exactly what they put down for reasons. I know one of them might have had a little extra influence by being ex-LEO. One I believe just conducted a lot of business in Portland. I'm guessing reason and logic would be the best approach. If you have a job that entails you to carrying around a large amount of money you could probably put down that you conduct business in Portland and often carry large sums of money. It might be better to say that you don't want it for defending the money but to defend your life if it was ever threatened in the circumstances of being robbed. Maybe one of the folks from WA who have an OR CHL will chime in or at least IM the OP some advice for the application. That is why I suggest asking in the WA HTF. Let us know how it turns out. |
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I have staed that when I travel I go to ranges to shoot in contests and for fun and I want to make sure that I don't break any laws during the process of transporting the firearms. I realize that transportation to and from matches is an exception but it doesn't apply in some cases. Such as : I'm going to the Rose Festival Parade so I drive to Portland for the weekend. While I'm there I want to go shoot at Timber Ridge. The travel to and from Portland may not be covered under the exception because that travel is not exclusively for the match. That is actually why I got my concealed carry license. I had been stopped. The LEO asked if I had any firearms or drugs. I said that I had firearms. He asked where and what kind. I said I had several and most of them were under the seats. I could see he was a bit surprised by my answer. He asked me to step out of the car. I gave him my driver's license and we had a talk about the firearms. The talk was cut a bit short as my kids were being kind of noisy and my wife was dealing with the baby. Basically he advised me that there was an exception but it might not apply. He advised me to get a CCL and warned me about speeding in the Terwilliger Curves. So I got the license and don't speed through the curves.
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Very true. And so long as it has Pistol on it. But you can always get copies of your DD214, though it takes mailing away to Battle Creek...er....St. Louis, I believe, to get 'em. But you don't have to send any box tops.
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Re: the NRA certified course, does it matter when? I took a CCL course in Alaska (before they changed) and passed the range and classroom, got photos & prints done, and still have all paperwork, but this is in 2001. Would the certificate of completion be sufficient? |
Does not matter when for Oregon. |
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I got mine from Multnomah county. Went to the class they hold every Wed night, filled out the form, got fingerprinted, no problemo. Only thing different is that as an out-of-stater, you have to include a note that states why you want a CCW in OR. (I don't think they even read them...) |