Posted: 4/23/2008 7:18:57 AM EDT
| So I found a kit at last , wondering if anyone has the know how and tools if i buy a flat reciever ? I would be willing to travel a little , not too far tho .... Im around Portland . |
There are a handful of peopel in here that are good AK builders. There were just recently several build parties but I imagine that there might be another pretty soon. What kind of kit? |
Are you really handy with tools? Did you play with legos alot as a kid? How well do you know aks? I'm not trying to discourage you, but a flat build is just a little advanced for your first time AK builder. I'm not saying it can't be done at all, but having the extra experience of a few builds from receivers under your belt really helps. That said, there is only one person that I know of on this board that has the tools for a flat build. They value their privacy, so I'll let them get in touch with you should they have the desire to. |
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I would only attempt to build from a flat if i had somone with the tool and know how to help me , if not i will buy one . But would love to make one . Seems all kits are just about gone , so i cant imagine there will be too many more build partys soon . Romainian kit , btw , found some for $189 in exellent condition . |
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Here is a local builder/FFL who builds kits up... He won't do flats... but does fantastic work.. www.762llc.com |
| Ive got a jig to bend tapco flats, a set of bolt cutter rivet tools, a dremmel and a grinder.....Camo Ken has my jig right now. You can use it and my rivet smashers if you cant find another builder. Ive only built one kit but Ive been a mechanic for a long time, its all about patience. IM me if you need some help and I'll try to hook you up. |
I would highly recommend his work, saw some of it at the range and was in awe. He is a member here if I remember right. |
We'll be more than happy to help you out and let you do it yourself. Conju is right, there are certain steps, and it's definately something you need a mentor on. Jockey and I live out by McMinnville... |
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I dont have many tools to bring , just a dremal and other basic stuff . But a build party would be cool ! one question i didnt see much info on , was if we bend our own flats , then do we have to report having made a new firerame and do some paper work thru ATF on it ? |
You dont have to report or register it, however YOU have to make it YOURSELF. You should not transfer it -some will correctly disagree- however, playing it safe is worth being away from "pound me in the ass prison". |
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i have built a few, on a G kits 2 years ago. only special tool i used was the modified bolt cutters for riveting the front trunion in. most of it i improvised with. i would recommend getting a receiver all they way done, they are not too much more and save you a lot of hassle. there is a place in Portland that has them, i think its gun zone but you would have to call them. |
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If you look around now , you will find very few kits at all . All Romainian kits have dried up , and suppliers say they are not getting any more at all . All the ones i have seen now are at least $200 , so i thought id grab one while i still can . Look around the AK build it yourself and you will see all the talk about it . |
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I'm in for a build party if we are using completed receivers. We never get rifles complete in one day when we bend our own. I just got 3-Romy G kits in yesterday for $89ea. Average price nowadays is $159 I'm working on a Tantal right now. I'll get a G kit demilled if we do a party 
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Kent- The reason NDS advises against using TAPCO fire control group is because they have had trouble with them causing the rifle to double in the past. The arsenal trigger they have for sale is quite frankly, IMHO, the BEST FCG(fire control group) out there. It is nice and smooth and breaks crisp. MUCH better than the tapco's. That said. the most critical thing in building a quality rifle is having a good receiver, and I would strongly advise a NODAK spud. I've built with several and nothing comes even remotely close to touching the fit/finish of a Nodak receiver. They are completely hardened receivers, which makes them difficult to drill if you don't know how, but they are totally worth every penny you pay for them. Best of luck, Chris oh, BTW where are you located? |
Kent.............sage advice is found in Conju. The best resource I know. Conju,,,,,,,,,,,He is in Portland. Kent...........I bought the kits from Centerfire 3 monhs ago. Arrived 2 days ago. J&G was selling the same kits for $99 a few weeks ago. Prolly gone now. Check the AK builder forum. Nodak Spud is by far the best place to get the receivers. |
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i think the extra cost for the receiver is worth it. i would not want to mess around with folding a flat, welding the rails, and heat treating parts of it. it was too easy for me to put the parts in a completed receiver. i recently saw some G kits online with 5 US parts included for 150 online |
BLING...................grab them while you can!!!! |
Conju, got your VM. 1-kit is in EXCELLENT condition. The other 2 are in the same rusty condition as all the others. No pitting, just a frosting. With a shot of oil, they are in the excellent class. ETA: I'm not judging the wood because I an going to replace it with tacticool black plastic
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 Mine came in pretty crusty. They need some serious lovin and i bought a B and a C kit. Shoulda bought more, but I am not huge into the AK. Besides I need to save the money for the BMG. ETA: I would be down with the a build party. Granted i can get the barrel out of my C kit. B kit was cake, the C kit is still pissing me off. Need some liquid nitrogen or something. |
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Ok, i agree , I guess i could always sell the tapco kit on the EE . So anyone want to do a group buy on receivers ? They dont discount that much , but we could save on shipping if we sent to one place . I wont get my kit for at least another week or so , just sent payment yesterday , guy says he has them ready to go tho . I know I might have found another kit a little cheaper than $189 , he did have the "good kits" for $179 , both prices included shipping too . But I have been watching the AK section and everytime i see a post for good deals , they are sold out in a heartbeat , so i just jumped on the frist one I could get for sure , and its supposed to be exellent condition , so thats good . But I think the days of kits under $100 are gone for good . and soon enough they will be unavailable all together ... |
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Group buy's are pretty much a no-no around arfcom anymore. There's much more that could be said about that, but its best to just let that sleeping dog lie. When you do decide on a receiver, there are a few members in your area who would be willing to help. Socandyman is one of them. |
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This is where i ordered mine from , might still have some left ... www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36975 |
A buddy has a Romi G built on a Nodak spud receiver. Swapping an Arsenal FCG for the G2 set WILL NOT fix the problem but following Harlan's troubleshooting guide WILL. |
That would be my rifle he's talking about  And yeah, following the troubleshooting guide e.g. applying a slight bevel to the hammer did the trick. It works flawlessly now. IMHO/FWIW, to me the G2 felt much more cleaner and crisp than the Arsenal, plus it was much easier to install. |