Posted: 5/25/2014 7:54:32 AM EDT
| I'm starting to read the night vision threads on this site. Are any of you guys knowledgeable on the topic and can point me in the direction of the cheapest, easiest way for a beginner to get into NV without breaking the bank? How much realistically will I spend in order to see under cover of darkness? |
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PVS-14. Done.
That's the direction I am going to take anyway. I talked with TNVC. I told them what I wanted and they gave me some options. A few were in the low $2k range, but the PVS-14 is the best fit for me. I wanted something that I could use on or off a weapon and would give me the visibility and durability that I want. Add a DBAL IR laser device and I am all set. I am saving for my set up right now. |
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PVS-14. Done. That's the direction I am going to take anyway. I talked with TNVC. I told them what I wanted and they gave me some options. A few were in the low $2k range, but the PVS-14 is the best fit for me. I wanted something that I could use on or off a weapon and would give me the visibility and durability that I want. Add a DBAL IR laser device and I am all set. I am saving for my set up right now. That's the conclusion I've come to so far but have only been reading up a short while and don't want to miss anything obvious. It seems like its gonna run about $2,500 to $3,000 for a ticket to play this game, correct? |
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That's the conclusion I've come to so far but have only been reading up a short while and don't want to miss anything obvious. It seems like its gonna run about $2,500 to $3,000 for a ticket to play this game, correct? Quoted:
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PVS-14. Done. That's the direction I am going to take anyway. I talked with TNVC. I told them what I wanted and they gave me some options. A few were in the low $2k range, but the PVS-14 is the best fit for me. I wanted something that I could use on or off a weapon and would give me the visibility and durability that I want. Add a DBAL IR laser device and I am all set. I am saving for my set up right now. That's the conclusion I've come to so far but have only been reading up a short while and don't want to miss anything obvious. It seems like its gonna run about $2,500 to $3,000 for a ticket to play this game, correct? It's cheaper if you go with a digital nv. I saw a low end one the other day and looked through it at a lgs. For $500 it was grainy but clear. Had both night and day settings so you could leave it mounted on your rifle. Based on going prices, it may compare like a tasco vs ACOG. <--- I know very little about nv |
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"I want to get started in MUDDING on the cheap... I'll be new to the clutch butt!!! Locking Lugs or Dash Switch?"
Maserati Ghibli. Done That's the direction I am going to take anyway. 
You can get a Pulsar Digisight N750 for under 1500 and actually be Starting Out on a Budget but actually identify and hit shit way out there. Google and Youtube are best buds. |
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What are you wanting it for? Weapon mounted, hunting, spying on wife/ ex wife/ petitioner on the stalking warrant..... I have to agree that the TNVC branded PVS-14 is a hard show to beat. Buy once cry once. I'll dig my picks up and post them. Btw I have time on pvs 14, 15, 21 and 31's. 15's are next for me. 21's and 31's in my dreams. |
| I'll probably get laughed outta this thread, but I got a Sightmark Nightraider Gen 1 awhile back for about $550 plus tax if I recall correctly. I couldn't afford the $1,800 and up rigs so I opted for this just to fuck around with. I haven't had any problems with mine so far and I've shot about 2,000 rounds out of my AR15 with it. It has a illuminator on it and I can see opossums and stray cats coming out of the woods on the other side of the field at about 225 yards easy. On bright nights I can see that without the illuminator. I eventually would like to work my way up to a better rig, but I don't regret this one as my first introduction to nightvision. |
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I'll probably get laughed outta this thread, but I got a Sightmark Nightraider Gen 1 awhile back for about $550 plus tax if I recall correctly. I couldn't afford the $1,800 and up rigs so I opted for this just to fuck around with. I haven't had any problems with mine so far and I've shot about 2,000 rounds out of my AR15 with it. It has a illuminator on it and I can see opossums and stray cats coming out of the woods on the other side of the field at about 225 yards easy. On bright nights I can see that without the illuminator. I eventually would like to work my way up to a better rig, but I don't regret this one as my first introduction to nightvision. Not at all I think that your gear is totally relevant to this discussion. Ultimately it's a catch 22. The op has no idea how much he will or won't use it until he has it. Truth be told I use mine 10-12 times a year, but I'm glad I have the set up that I have. It's really up to what his needs are and what the budget is. I can say this- you loose far less money on higher quality gear than you do on budget gear. That is something to think about. |
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Cracker, What are you wanting it for? Weapon mounted, hunting, spying on wife/ ex wife/ petitioner on the stalking warrant..... I have to agree that the TNVC branded PVS-14 is a hard show to beat. Buy once cry once. I'll dig my picks up and post them. Btw I have time on pvs 14, 15, 21 and 31's. 15's are next for me. 21's and 31's in my dreams. I knew this question was coming. Versatility is important to me as I'd like to be able to mount it on a rifle and also on a helmet and walk around free from the rifle when necessary. I'd like to be able to hunt both man (my kid and wife or intruders in my house) and beast (hog, etc.). Suppose I'm looking for a good all around unit that offers flexibility. I know there's more I don't know/understand about NV than what I do understand so I'm trying to learn what I can now. You guys have helped tremendously. |
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I knew this question was coming. Versatility is important to me as I'd like to be able to mount it on a rifle and also on a helmet and walk around free from the rifle when necessary. I'd like to be able to hunt both man (my kid and wife or intruders in my house) and beast (hog, etc.). Suppose I'm looking for a good all around unit that offers flexibility. I know there's more I don't know/understand about NV than what I do understand so I'm trying to learn what I can now. You guys have helped tremendously. Quoted:
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Cracker, What are you wanting it for? Weapon mounted, hunting, spying on wife/ ex wife/ petitioner on the stalking warrant..... I have to agree that the TNVC branded PVS-14 is a hard show to beat. Buy once cry once. I'll dig my picks up and post them. Btw I have time on pvs 14, 15, 21 and 31's. 15's are next for me. 21's and 31's in my dreams. I knew this question was coming. Versatility is important to me as I'd like to be able to mount it on a rifle and also on a helmet and walk around free from the rifle when necessary. I'd like to be able to hunt both man (my kid and wife or intruders in my house) and beast (hog, etc.). Suppose I'm looking for a good all around unit that offers flexibility. I know there's more I don't know/understand about NV than what I do understand so I'm trying to learn what I can now. You guys have helped tremendously. Pretty much anything weapon mounted sucks for true walking and hunting. You have to stay on the gun the whole time in order to see. Now traditional hunting ( what I refer to as waiting) ie freestanding or blind weapon mounted is the way to go. Most versatile solution is a it laser on your gun and a head mounted unit. Pvs 7/14/15 would be what you should be looking at. Try not to buy used unless you can test drive the unit before buying. The only local shop I know of that carries nods is trading place in Monroe. Where are you at in ga? I have seen some states getting together and having NV test drives (like a htf shoot, but with nods). Maybe a few if us in here that have kit could get together and set something like that up. |
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Pretty much anything weapon mounted sucks for true walking and hunting. You have to stay on the gun the whole time in order to see. Now traditional hunting ( what I refer to as waiting) ie freestanding or blind weapon mounted is the way to go. Most versatile solution is a it laser on your gun and a head mounted unit. Pvs 7/14/15 would be what you should be looking at. Try not to buy used unless you can test drive the unit before buying. The only local shop I know of that carries nods is trading place in Monroe. Where are you at in ga? I have seen some states getting together and having NV test drives (like a htf shoot, but with nods). Maybe a few if us in here that have kit could get together and set something like that up. Quoted:
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Cracker, What are you wanting it for? Weapon mounted, hunting, spying on wife/ ex wife/ petitioner on the stalking warrant..... I have to agree that the TNVC branded PVS-14 is a hard show to beat. Buy once cry once. I'll dig my picks up and post them. Btw I have time on pvs 14, 15, 21 and 31's. 15's are next for me. 21's and 31's in my dreams. I knew this question was coming. Versatility is important to me as I'd like to be able to mount it on a rifle and also on a helmet and walk around free from the rifle when necessary. I'd like to be able to hunt both man (my kid and wife or intruders in my house) and beast (hog, etc.). Suppose I'm looking for a good all around unit that offers flexibility. I know there's more I don't know/understand about NV than what I do understand so I'm trying to learn what I can now. You guys have helped tremendously. Pretty much anything weapon mounted sucks for true walking and hunting. You have to stay on the gun the whole time in order to see. Now traditional hunting ( what I refer to as waiting) ie freestanding or blind weapon mounted is the way to go. Most versatile solution is a it laser on your gun and a head mounted unit. Pvs 7/14/15 would be what you should be looking at. Try not to buy used unless you can test drive the unit before buying. The only local shop I know of that carries nods is trading place in Monroe. Where are you at in ga? I have seen some states getting together and having NV test drives (like a htf shoot, but with nods). Maybe a few if us in here that have kit could get together and set something like that up. Thank you - you're verifying what I'm understanding from what I've read so far and thanks for the buying used warning. What is the harm in buying used - damaged units or _______? I'm in Marietta - west of the square. |
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I forgot to ad something that I do know about nv that I learned from a demo last year I went to.
Always check what the recoil rating is on the tube itself, NOT THE RATING TO MAINTAIN ZERO. Some companies will only list the zero rating on a budget device and tell you that it will hold rating of a .50 bmg, but the tube only guaranteed at a 5.56 recoil. |
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Quoted: Pretty much anything weapon mounted sucks for true walking and hunting. You have to stay on the gun the whole time in order to see. Now traditional hunting ( what I refer to as waiting) ie freestanding or blind weapon mounted is the way to go. Most versatile solution is a it laser on your gun and a head mounted unit. Pvs 7/14/15 would be what you should be looking at. Try not to buy used unless you can test drive the unit before buying. The only local shop I know of that carries nods is trading place in Monroe. Where are you at in ga? I have seen some states getting together and having NV test drives (like a htf shoot, but with nods). Maybe a few if us in here that have kit could get together and set something like that up. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Cracker, What are you wanting it for? Weapon mounted, hunting, spying on wife/ ex wife/ petitioner on the stalking warrant..... I have to agree that the TNVC branded PVS-14 is a hard show to beat. Buy once cry once. I'll dig my picks up and post them. Btw I have time on pvs 14, 15, 21 and 31's. 15's are next for me. 21's and 31's in my dreams. I knew this question was coming. Versatility is important to me as I'd like to be able to mount it on a rifle and also on a helmet and walk around free from the rifle when necessary. I'd like to be able to hunt both man (my kid and wife or intruders in my house) and beast (hog, etc.). Suppose I'm looking for a good all around unit that offers flexibility. I know there's more I don't know/understand about NV than what I do understand so I'm trying to learn what I can now. You guys have helped tremendously. Pretty much anything weapon mounted sucks for true walking and hunting. You have to stay on the gun the whole time in order to see. Now traditional hunting ( what I refer to as waiting) ie freestanding or blind weapon mounted is the way to go. Most versatile solution is a it laser on your gun and a head mounted unit. Pvs 7/14/15 would be what you should be looking at. Try not to buy used unless you can test drive the unit before buying. The only local shop I know of that carries nods is trading place in Monroe. Where are you at in ga? I have seen some states getting together and having NV test drives (like a htf shoot, but with nods). Maybe a few if us in here that have kit could get together and set something like that up. |
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I had a TNVC Pvs14 for about a year before I had to sell it and if you plan to do NV this is the way to go. If you do not want to spend $2500-$3000 on a 14 take a look at the PVS7. Am I correct in the 14 is basically a 7 with upgraded/more modern parts, meaning there isn't any difference to the design, just the level of technology? |
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I'll probably get laughed outta this thread, but I got a Sightmark Nightraider Gen 1 awhile back for about $550 plus tax if I recall correctly. I couldn't afford the $1,800 and up rigs so I opted for this just to fuck around with. I haven't had any problems with mine so far and I've shot about 2,000 rounds out of my AR15 with it. It has a illuminator on it and I can see opossums and stray cats coming out of the woods on the other side of the field at about 225 yards easy. On bright nights I can see that without the illuminator. I eventually would like to work my way up to a better rig, but I don't regret this one as my first introduction to nightvision. Not laughing at all. This could be a more budget friendly way to dip my toes in the water before I drop a couple $1,000s on a new toy. Physically, this is one of the larger options too, correct? |
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I forgot to ad something that I do know about nv that I learned from a demo last year I went to. Always check what the recoil rating is on the tube itself, NOT THE RATING TO MAINTAIN ZERO. Some companies will only list the zero rating on a budget device and tell you that it will hold rating of a .50 bmg, but the tube only guaranteed at a 5.56 recoil. Noted and added to my mental checklist. |
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There is a cookout at my place on the 7th. I have wildlife, two horses and 15 acres in a long narrow lot. If y'all got 'em bring 'em. Quoted:
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Cracker, What are you wanting it for? Weapon mounted, hunting, spying on wife/ ex wife/ petitioner on the stalking warrant..... I have to agree that the TNVC branded PVS-14 is a hard show to beat. Buy once cry once. I'll dig my picks up and post them. Btw I have time on pvs 14, 15, 21 and 31's. 15's are next for me. 21's and 31's in my dreams. I knew this question was coming. Versatility is important to me as I'd like to be able to mount it on a rifle and also on a helmet and walk around free from the rifle when necessary. I'd like to be able to hunt both man (my kid and wife or intruders in my house) and beast (hog, etc.). Suppose I'm looking for a good all around unit that offers flexibility. I know there's more I don't know/understand about NV than what I do understand so I'm trying to learn what I can now. You guys have helped tremendously. Pretty much anything weapon mounted sucks for true walking and hunting. You have to stay on the gun the whole time in order to see. Now traditional hunting ( what I refer to as waiting) ie freestanding or blind weapon mounted is the way to go. Most versatile solution is a it laser on your gun and a head mounted unit. Pvs 7/14/15 would be what you should be looking at. Try not to buy used unless you can test drive the unit before buying. The only local shop I know of that carries nods is trading place in Monroe. Where are you at in ga? I have seen some states getting together and having NV test drives (like a htf shoot, but with nods). Maybe a few if us in here that have kit could get together and set something like that up. The 7th is in the middle of my wife's 4 week out of town travel stint. I have some prior commitments that I'm trying to shift around - so far I haven't been successful. |
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Here's an idea of prices and reviews on digital night vision.
I personally would go this route until I figured out if a $2000+ optic was going to be used 3 times a year and many just for shits and grins or just getting into varmint hunting. Hell. I'm sorry but I just can't justify spending a couple of grand on something as fragile as nv and then hump it through the thick Georgia woods after pigs and smacking it against something or forgetting it's on and frying the tube. |
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Pretty much anything weapon mounted sucks for true walking and hunting. You have to stay on the gun the whole time in order to see. Now traditional hunting ( what I refer to as waiting) ie freestanding or blind weapon mounted is the way to go. Most versatile solution is a it laser on your gun and a head mounted unit. Pvs 7/14/15 would be what you should be looking at. Try not to buy used unless you can test drive the unit before buying. The only local shop I know of that carries nods is trading place in Monroe. Where are you at in ga? I have seen some states getting together and having NV test drives (like a htf shoot, but with nods). Maybe a few if us in here that have kit could get together and set something like that up. Quoted:
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Cracker, What are you wanting it for? Weapon mounted, hunting, spying on wife/ ex wife/ petitioner on the stalking warrant..... I have to agree that the TNVC branded PVS-14 is a hard show to beat. Buy once cry once. I'll dig my picks up and post them. Btw I have time on pvs 14, 15, 21 and 31's. 15's are next for me. 21's and 31's in my dreams. I knew this question was coming. Versatility is important to me as I'd like to be able to mount it on a rifle and also on a helmet and walk around free from the rifle when necessary. I'd like to be able to hunt both man (my kid and wife or intruders in my house) and beast (hog, etc.). Suppose I'm looking for a good all around unit that offers flexibility. I know there's more I don't know/understand about NV than what I do understand so I'm trying to learn what I can now. You guys have helped tremendously. Pretty much anything weapon mounted sucks for true walking and hunting. You have to stay on the gun the whole time in order to see. Now traditional hunting ( what I refer to as waiting) ie freestanding or blind weapon mounted is the way to go. Most versatile solution is a it laser on your gun and a head mounted unit. Pvs 7/14/15 would be what you should be looking at. Try not to buy used unless you can test drive the unit before buying. The only local shop I know of that carries nods is trading place in Monroe. Where are you at in ga? I have seen some states getting together and having NV test drives (like a htf shoot, but with nods). Maybe a few if us in here that have kit could get together and set something like that up. I would love to get in on this if those who have NV equipment decide to have a show and tell session. |
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I have a PVS-14 from US Night Vision that is autogated. It is very sharp and clear. I got an amber filter to get rid of the green glow that splashes out of the eye piece onto your face at night. The amber filter turns the image yellow and in my opinion looks sharper when reading text and seeing fine details. It doesn't strain your eyes or fatigue them near as much as the native green in my opinion.
Another great Gen 3 PVS-14 is the OpticsPlanet.com OPMOD units. They come with a great warranty as well, have autogated power supplies, waterproof to 66 feet, and you can get them on sale, and with a 5% off coupon for around $2400 shipped. That is the way I would go if the $3000 mark is too high of a price. The tubes are the same make, and everything else is mil-spec. You get the same exact kit and accessories as well. I live up in Cumming, GA and use my nods weekly as my house backs up to the woods. On a start lit night in the fall, I can see deep into the forest and actually see leaves dropping off the trees. Plus if you look at the night sky on a clear night, you will see ten times the stars, meteors, planets, satellites, etc since everything is highly amplified. It is amazing. If you get up in the exit 13 off 400 area, let me know and I will let you take them for a test drive. I have a great helmet setup as well and an IR laser and vampire weapon light that does IR and normal light on my AR you can check out. |
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I gotta get some new pics, but the setup is basically the same. I changed helmets (from an OPS Core to a Team Wendy Carbon Fiber) but pretty much everything else is the same.
TNVC-14 in Multicams. INVG mount SF M1 Illuminator in VTAC mount. (current setup). SF Scout Vampire as pictured. Princeton tech bendy light in red/ white. EOG counterweight. 
I also just picked up a second set of sordins that I'm going to mod to fit on the TW rails so that my earpro gets out from under the helmet. |
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I have a PVS-14 from US Night Vision that is autogated. It is very sharp and clear. I got an amber filter to get rid of the green glow that splashes out of the eye piece onto your face at night. The amber filter turns the image yellow and in my opinion looks sharper when reading text and seeing fine details. It doesn't strain your eyes or fatigue them near as much as the native green in my opinion. Another great Gen 3 PVS-14 is the OpticsPlanet.com OPMOD units. They come with a great warranty as well, have autogated power supplies, waterproof to 66 feet, and you can get them on sale, and with a 5% off coupon for around $2400 shipped. That is the way I would go if the $3000 mark is too high of a price. The tubes are the same make, and everything else is mil-spec. You get the same exact kit and accessories as well. I live up in Cumming, GA and use my nods weekly as my house backs up to the woods. On a start lit night in the fall, I can see deep into the forest and actually see leaves dropping off the trees. Plus if you look at the night sky on a clear night, you will see ten times the stars, meteors, planets, satellites, etc since everything is highly amplified. It is amazing. If you get up in the exit 13 off 400 area, let me know and I will let you take them for a test drive. I have a great helmet setup as well and an IR laser and vampire weapon light that does IR and normal light on my AR you can check out. Good info and thanks for the offer - I'll keep you posted when I'm up that way again. I have more to learn as I didn't realize there was a difference between a pvs-14 bought from one place versus another. Thanks again for all the info fellas. |
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I gotta get some new pics, but the setup is basically the same. I changed helmets (from an OPS Core to a Team Wendy Carbon Fiber) but pretty much everything else is the same. TNVC-14 in Multicams. INVG mount SF M1 Illuminator in VTAC mount. (current setup). SF Scout Vampire as pictured. Princeton tech bendy light in red/ white. EOG counterweight. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=44898 http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=44899 http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=44900 http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=44901 http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=44902 http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=44903 I also just picked up a second set of sordins that I'm going to mod to fit on the TW rails so that my earpro gets out from under the helmet. Do you still wear chin strap with the counterweight? |
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Do you still wear chin strap with the counterweight? You have to. honestly the counterweight usually stays in the bag. The PVS-14 doesn't weigh enough to really rate one. A manta strobe or battery pack might be better option. I bought the setup after running 15's for 3 days straight. and 15's are almost double the weight of a single 14, so a counterweight is needed. Chin strap always, the bucket and nod are pretty expensive, you don't want those sliding around. |
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"I want to get started in MUDDING on the cheap... I'll be new to the clutch butt!!! Locking Lugs or Dash Switch?" Maserati Ghibli. Done That's the direction I am going to take anyway. http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m31zd4R1IH1r5yvdb.gif You can get a Pulsar Digisight N750 for under 1500 and actually be Starting Out on a Budget but actually identify and hit shit way out there. Google and Youtube are best buds. So aside from the price, what's attractive to you about the "pulsar digisight n750 for under 1500"? How do you like yours Dave? Look, I started with the same question as the OP a few months ago and likely had a similar budget in mind. I did the research, looked at the optics similar to what you posted about, stuck my eyeball in every night optic I could get my hands on. I then talked to the most knowledgeable people I could find. I made my decision and started to save to meet the new budget. That's my experience. Maybe it's not relevant. The man asked a question and I shared my recent (maybe or maybe not relevant)experience. |
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Look, I started with the same question as the OP a few months ago and likely had a similar budget in mind. I did the research, looked at the optics similar to what you posted about, stuck my eyeball in every night optic I could get my hands on. I then talked to the most knowledgeable people I could find. I made my decision and started to save to meet the new budget. That's my experience. Maybe it's not relevant. The man asked a question and I shared my recent (maybe or maybe not relevant)experience. Just curious- what did you decide on? |
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Look, I started with the same question as the OP a few months ago and likely had a similar budget in mind. I did the research, looked at the optics similar to what you posted about, stuck my eyeball in every night optic I could get my hands on. I then talked to the most knowledgeable people I could find. I made my decision and started to save to meet the new budget. That's my experience. Maybe it's not relevant. The man asked a question and I shared my recent (maybe or maybe not relevant)experience. Just curious- what did you decide on? TNVC PVS-14. I just have to find a helmet to fit my GIANT hollow melon. And get a DBAL. I was the first poster. The above was just my reply to DaveS being snide. |
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Look, I started with the same question as the OP a few months ago and likely had a similar budget in mind. I did the research, looked at the optics similar to what you posted about, stuck my eyeball in every night optic I could get my hands on. I then talked to the most knowledgeable people I could find. I made my decision and started to save to meet the new budget. That's my experience. Maybe it's not relevant. The man asked a question and I shared my recent (maybe or maybe not relevant)experience. Just curious- what did you decide on? TNVC PVS-14. I just have to find a helmet to fit my GIANT hollow melon. And get a DBAL. I was the first poster. The above was just my reply to DaveS being snide. Your first post mentioned you discussed a couple options. What were the others if you remember? |
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Look, I started with the same question as the OP a few months ago and likely had a similar budget in mind. I did the research, looked at the optics similar to what you posted about, stuck my eyeball in every night optic I could get my hands on. I then talked to the most knowledgeable people I could find. I made my decision and started to save to meet the new budget. That's my experience. Maybe it's not relevant. The man asked a question and I shared my recent (maybe or maybe not relevant)experience. Just curious- what did you decide on? TNVC PVS-14. I just have to find a helmet to fit my GIANT hollow melon. And get a DBAL. I was the first poster. The above was just my reply to DaveS being snide. Your first post mentioned you discussed a couple options. What were the others if you remember? The D-300 gen 2 was the option that TNVC sell. It it a pretty robust monocular and is decent for the price. The currently list them for $1899 I think. We also talked about the other stuff on the market that come in cheaper. Like the ATN stuff that do many companies sell. |
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I gotta get some new pics, but the setup is basically the same. I changed helmets (from an OPS Core to a Team Wendy Carbon Fiber) but pretty much everything else is the same. *snip Any reason you switched from the OPS Core to the Team Wendy? I'm considering one of the non ballistic helmets and was wondering which people like better. |
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I have an ops core and my buddy just got a TW. REALLY want a TW now. It just fits and feels better. You have to try it on to understand.
And if you are out of money for NV, don't play with an INVG mount. I did and my wallet instantly felt lighter. It is the BEST upgrade I've made to my NVG setup. So much more secure. I don't have pics of mine right now but I have the following: Ops Core INVG mount Night Vision Depot PVS14 Inforce WML/IR light EOG counter weight filled with batteries Phoenix Jr 9v IR beacon Gun has a Lasermax unimax IR and a TNVC torch on it. If you buy used, you can get in around 3K. Its just a bottomless pit though... |
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Pretty much anything weapon mounted sucks for true walking and hunting. You have to stay on the gun the whole time in order to see. Now traditional hunting ( what I refer to as waiting) ie freestanding or blind weapon mounted is the way to go. Most versatile solution is a it laser on your gun and a head mounted unit. Pvs 7/14/15 would be what you should be looking at. Try not to buy used unless you can test drive the unit before buying. The only local shop I know of that carries nods is trading place in Monroe. Where are you at in ga? I have seen some states getting together and having NV test drives (like a htf shoot, but with nods). Maybe a few if us in here that have kit could get together and set something like that up. I agree with what IKH posted. I have 14 on helmet and DBAL laser on rifle, plus FLIR scope on rifle. Scanning with the FLIR gets tiresome holding that 10 lb rifle up over a night hunt. NOTE: I mostly hunt solo on my private lease, or am with one person who is right beside me. Scanning with rifle-mounted NV/T is not safe otherwise, or especially when others are in the woods. For this reason I am saving for a handheld thermal camera. I would be up for a get together. |
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I gotta get some new pics, but the setup is basically the same. I changed helmets (from an OPS Core to a Team Wendy Carbon Fiber) but pretty much everything else is the same. *snip Any reason you switched from the OPS Core to the Team Wendy? I'm considering one of the non ballistic helmets and was wondering which people like better. The Wilcox mount and suspension system. The OPS Core bump was injected molded and the INVG mount wobbled. The TW suspension system is the balls and the dial adjustment is just about perfect. Honestly I was going to get an LTP TW helmet (one of the first ones in fact) but I had a limited timeframe and they made me an offer I couldn't refuse on the CF helmet. I did get the rail 2.0 system. Quoted:Costa was probably wearing one in his latest internet video! Excuse me sir, could I interest you in a bag of dicks? 
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could one get a PVS14 setup -- with helmet for 3 grand? would it work well? Yes you can. Look for someone who needs money fast.  This is what I had to sell my Ops core helmet, Wilcox L4 G11 mount, practically brand new TNVC PVS14 and some other NV stuff for. All I have left are the IR chem lights and those are enough to make me want more NV once I get the funds again. 
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I gotta get some new pics, but the setup is basically the same. I changed helmets (from an OPS Core to a Team Wendy Carbon Fiber) but pretty much everything else is the same. *snip Any reason you switched from the OPS Core to the Team Wendy? I'm considering one of the non ballistic helmets and was wondering which people like better. The Wilcox mount and suspension system. The OPS Core bump was injected molded and the INVG mount wobbled. The TW suspension system is the balls and the dial adjustment is just about perfect. Honestly I was going to get an LTP TW helmet (one of the first ones in fact) but I had a limited timeframe and they made me an offer I couldn't refuse on the CF helmet. I did get the rail 2.0 system I was looking at the TW LTP helmet as well. Do you know if there is a peltor rail adaptor for ear pro like ops core helmets use? I have the 6s versions not the super expensive comtacs. |
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I was looking at the TW LTP helmet as well. Do you know if there is a peltor rail adaptor for ear pro like ops core helmets use? I have the 6s versions not the super expensive comtacs. Sorry, I don't think so. I'm getting some iron forge concepts for my backup sordins. |
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It's cheaper if you go with a digital nv. I saw a low end one the other day and looked through it at a lgs. For $500 it was grainy but clear. Had both night and day settings so you could leave it mounted on your rifle. Based on going prices, it may compare like a tasco vs ACOG. <--- I know very little about nv Quoted:
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PVS-14. Done. That's the direction I am going to take anyway. I talked with TNVC. I told them what I wanted and they gave me some options. A few were in the low $2k range, but the PVS-14 is the best fit for me. I wanted something that I could use on or off a weapon and would give me the visibility and durability that I want. Add a DBAL IR laser device and I am all set. I am saving for my set up right now. That's the conclusion I've come to so far but have only been reading up a short while and don't want to miss anything obvious. It seems like its gonna run about $2,500 to $3,000 for a ticket to play this game, correct? It's cheaper if you go with a digital nv. I saw a low end one the other day and looked through it at a lgs. For $500 it was grainy but clear. Had both night and day settings so you could leave it mounted on your rifle. Based on going prices, it may compare like a tasco vs ACOG. <--- I know very little about nv Was it this? http://swfa.com/ATN-3-12x-X-Sight-Night-Vision-Rifle-Scope-P69007.aspx It's something I am thinking about but don't know much about it. Looks like it. |
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PVS-14. Done. That's the direction I am going to take anyway. I talked with TNVC. I told them what I wanted and they gave me some options. A few were in the low $2k range, but the PVS-14 is the best fit for me. I wanted something that I could use on or off a weapon and would give me the visibility and durability that I want. Add a DBAL IR laser device and I am all set. I am saving for my set up right now. That's the conclusion I've come to so far but have only been reading up a short while and don't want to miss anything obvious. It seems like its gonna run about $2,500 to $3,000 for a ticket to play this game, correct? It's cheaper if you go with a digital nv. I saw a low end one the other day and looked through it at a lgs. For $500 it was grainy but clear. Had both night and day settings so you could leave it mounted on your rifle. Based on going prices, it may compare like a tasco vs ACOG. <--- I know very little about nv Was it this? http://swfa.com/ATN-3-12x-X-Sight-Night-Vision-Rifle-Scope-P69007.aspx It's something I am thinking about but don't know much about it. Looks like it. |
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Since I wasn't able to go to the HTF cookout and I know some of you were planning to go with some of your nv gear, I'm wondering if there is anything you guys learned that you could share here? The nv thing didn't quite work out on such short notice. However, I talked to TNVC and they would be glad to come do a demo for the htf if given enough time before hand. If any of y'all would like to host it and get enough confirmed members to attend, I contact them and try to get it set up!
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I would be interested in a demo sometime.
I spoke with Kenzies Optics in Cartersville this week about doing a demo with Thermal, the new FLIR RS 1.5-5. They carry a full line of NV stuff per their website. Anyone interested in attending? I am back in the market for some type of NV and the decision for the inexpensive sightmark for ~$475 all they way up to thermal for $3500+ is a hard decision. |
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I would be interested in a demo sometime. I spoke with Kenzies Optics in Cartersville this week about doing a demo with Thermal, the new FLIR RS 1.5-5. They carry a full line of NV stuff per their website. Anyone interested in attending? I am back in the market for some type of NV and the decision for the inexpensive sightmark for ~$475 all they way up to thermal for $3500+ is a hard decision. I ordered the 1 in the SWFA link above. Once I get it, I will let you know how it is. |