[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Eye protection (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 11/9/2013 8:31:14 PM EDT
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Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a molehill, so forgive me if this is the case.
Had LASIK done last Friday and want to continue to protect my vision / investment. I've read the recommendations online and see the vast swing in prices of the approved / certified glasses for shooting in particular - both indoor and outdoor. Prices range from $5 to $200. What does the hive wear, especially you pros out there teaching and training a couple times a week? Anything special or have you smarter guys been here done this already or can anyone offer any knowledge? |
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I wear Rudy Project Rydon and have the Genetyk as a spare.
I have WileyX and don't like them because the are bulky so they are a spare for when someone shoots with me and doesn't have eye pro. Oakley are good too ... go try them on and find the ones that feel good for you. |
| Lens material is one contributor to the price variations. For instance, not even all Rudy's are created equal. They have a line they call Impact X that meets the ANSI standard for impact resistance. While plain ole polycarbonate will protect in most situations, its not near the same level of protection. |
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Thank you guys for chiming in. Rudy and Oakley seem to be the popular choices. I've never heard of Rudy, but the 3-minute search I just did suggests they've been around a while.
Oakley I'm familiar with. Is it safe to assume the difference between these two may be akin to the differences between Nike and Adidas as examples, meaning it is likely brand preference? |
| Ive been using the Oakley Flak Jackets and ballistic M Frame for about 10 years now and i like how they fit my head. Try several brands if you can and get the one that is the most comfortable. The flat stems on the Oakleys are a nice benefit when i am wearing a helmet and comm gear for long periods of time. |
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If you are interested in Rudys wait a few weeks. They usually run a badass promo around black friday. They throw in a spare set of lenses or two, a duffle bag, hat, stuff like that.
Whatever you get always get the impact resistant lenses like Kevin said above. Also always get a set of clear lenses too. When shooting at night or when there is bad cloud cover you will need them. |
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If you are interested in Rudys wait a few weeks. They usually run a badass promo around black friday. They throw in a spare set of lenses or two, a duffle bag, hat, stuff like that. Whatever you get always get the impact resistant lenses like Kevin said above. Also always get a set of clear lenses too. When shooting at night or when there is bad cloud cover you will need them. Good looking out on the coming discounts and the lenses. Speaking of, do you guys use the yellow or amber lenses much or just usually stick to clear and tinted for sun cover? |
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I feel like the $5 wrap clear glasses are the least intrusive. I've tried some other variations like Wiley x etc but IMHO the tighter the fit to the eye, the better. If it's sunny I wear my oakleys which are impact rated as well.
http://gatewaysafety.com/products/eye/starlite-2/#lens-image |
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Good looking out on the coming discounts and the lenses. Speaking of, do you guys use the yellow or amber lenses much or just usually stick to clear and tinted for sun cover? Quoted:
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If you are interested in Rudys wait a few weeks. They usually run a badass promo around black friday. They throw in a spare set of lenses or two, a duffle bag, hat, stuff like that. Whatever you get always get the impact resistant lenses like Kevin said above. Also always get a set of clear lenses too. When shooting at night or when there is bad cloud cover you will need them. Good looking out on the coming discounts and the lenses. Speaking of, do you guys use the yellow or amber lenses much or just usually stick to clear and tinted for sun cover? I wear the photochromic red (they're Amber) impact X lenses 95% of the time for match conditions. I will switch to the light purple for a jungle run stage thru the woods or on a bright day with aerial clays. Sometimes I'll run the golf green instead of the purple, but depends on background and target color. The photochromic reds give you awesome contrast and adjust for lighting conditions and get plenty dark for Ga summer days while maintaining that contrast. |
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I have a pair of Oakley ballistic m frame 3.0 and I really like them. If you are mil/Leo you can get Oakleys at about 40% off. Still a rip off considering it only cost them $30-40 to make a pair of glasses, but better than paying full price.
After I had lasik I noticed my eyes were very sensitive to sunlight. |
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I feel like the $5 wrap clear glasses are the least intrusive. I've tried some other variations like Wiley x etc but IMHO the tighter the fit to the eye, the better. If it's sunny I wear my oakleys which are impact rated as well. http://gatewaysafety.com/products/eye/starlite-2/#lens-image This is what I use or something similar. Getting a hot piece of brass between the glasses and your eye is not fun. |
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I've been running the same set of Oakley M frames for about 8 years now.. I just keep swapping the lenses when they get too badly abused.
If you're looking through optics and such, a better set of glasses seems to help prevent distortion as mentioned above. However, if just some pistol shooting or simply plinking, anything safety rated should do. |
| Oakley has a discount page. I am on their email list and I get a list of specials every week or so. The military is (finally!) big on eye protection - they sell Oakley and several other brands of protective eyewear usually with multiple lenses at the PX/BX at favorable prices if you have a mil friend or relative. |
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Yeah, I frequently use the ones from Home Depot, that way I don't feel bad if something happens to them. Quoted:
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I use Rudys, but if $ is an issue check out the safety glasses selection at a home depot. Pretty good to save money. Yeah, I frequently use the ones from Home Depot, that way I don't feel bad if something happens to them. Absolutely. +1 When my buddy forgets his eyes, he gets my home depot spare set.. |
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I think the glasses IKH are prescription. I've seen him on the range with prescription inserts in them. Quoted:
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Anyone got a recommendation for prescription safety goggles? True statement. The great part about the Rudy's Rx is that it's and insert that sits behind the lenses, so you only have to pay regular lens price or other colors/tints, and buy the Rx once. It's a great system and does not distort image at all. They do also offer Rx in the lenses, but not sure why you'd go that direction with so much versatility using the insert. |
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After I had lasik I noticed my eyes were very sensitive to sunlight. Same. LASIK 10 years ago, and going for a touch up later this month or next. I swear by my Oakley Half Jackets in Ice Iridium Polarized. I spent a lot of time at the Oakley store poring over lens info and at the time, this blue polarized lens provided the highest level of protection. I've got other polarized lens in my other set (Whiskers), but I only shoot in my Half Jackets. |
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I wear a pair of Winchester brand amber safety glasses every day. Blocks the UV and has a 1.5x magnification which helps my old eyes. My have come from CDNN years ago. $4.99
The amber color allows most of the light through yet blocks enough of the glare to keep me from squinting. I found dark lens now are too dark inside a car or late in the afternoon. |
| Maybe a good place to ask. I had LASIK 2.5 months ago and I still have a lot of starburst glare off lights. It's not so bad to really affect me much at night driving, but I'd like to knock it down if I could. Would amber glasses at night help? It's slowly getting better with time but this dark at 6PM BS for the commute is kinda bugging me. |
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Maybe a good place to ask. I had LASIK 2.5 months ago and I still have a lot of starburst glare off lights. It's not so bad to really affect me much at night driving, but I'd like to knock it down if I could. Would amber glasses at night help? It's slowly getting better with time but this dark at 6PM BS for the commute is kinda bugging me. That stayed with me for a while, but finally went away. I noticed I had a hard time with very small print after the surgery that never improved. |
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That stayed with me for a while, but finally went away. I noticed I had a hard time with very small print after the surgery that never improved. Quoted:
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Maybe a good place to ask. I had LASIK 2.5 months ago and I still have a lot of starburst glare off lights. It's not so bad to really affect me much at night driving, but I'd like to knock it down if I could. Would amber glasses at night help? It's slowly getting better with time but this dark at 6PM BS for the commute is kinda bugging me. That stayed with me for a while, but finally went away. I noticed I had a hard time with very small print after the surgery that never improved. I've had difficulty transitioning from a computer screen to printed text on paper in front of me. Depth perception has been slightly off in some instances and laser sharp in others. It hasn't been a full week for me yet though so I'm expecting these things to go away as I heal. It was definitely a smart decision to have it done. |
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I've had difficulty transitioning from a computer screen to printed text on paper in front of me. Depth perception has been slightly off in some instances and laser sharp in others. It hasn't been a full week for me yet though so I'm expecting these things to go away as I heal. It was definitely a smart decision to have it done. Quoted:
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Maybe a good place to ask. I had LASIK 2.5 months ago and I still have a lot of starburst glare off lights. It's not so bad to really affect me much at night driving, but I'd like to knock it down if I could. Would amber glasses at night help? It's slowly getting better with time but this dark at 6PM BS for the commute is kinda bugging me. That stayed with me for a while, but finally went away. I noticed I had a hard time with very small print after the surgery that never improved. I've had difficulty transitioning from a computer screen to printed text on paper in front of me. Depth perception has been slightly off in some instances and laser sharp in others. It hasn't been a full week for me yet though so I'm expecting these things to go away as I heal. It was definitely a smart decision to have it done. I've seen similar, and in general my up close vision is not quite as good as it was before (it was really good, now just kinda normalish I guess, doesn't really bother me). It took two months for everything to stabilize, transition between screen and paper is much quicker, etc. Still fighting the dry eyes though, slowly getting better but they say it can take up to six months. I spend most my time in front of a computer and that doesn't help. It's crazy how that my vision at the moment is 20/20, and with glasses I was 20/15, but I can see so many things so much better in general. Like the channel guide on the TV, or stars, colors seem more vibrant (maybe due to light sensitivity?). Still keep poking myself in the face trying to adjust my non-existent glasses though I need to get some new safety glasses, as I was always used to just wearing my normal ones. Good timing on this thread. I need some for cooking bacon and frying chicken, didn't realize how much that stuff really pops. |
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Thought you guys might like to see this. The pair I put in my cart to see the discount applied was $94.50 originally and the discount brought it to $66.15. I'm gonna hold off for a couple days (this sale runs through the 25th) to see if the Rudy's or any other brands offer any sales between now and BF.
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Oakley M Frames have protected my eyes for about 2 decades in the shooting sports and in the fire service profession, the glasses have taken hits from various little projectiles and fragments while remaining highly protective of my eyes.
The brand has earned my respect in a very big way but there are some other very reputable makers also. |
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While not all-inclusive, and certainly not done in a controlled lab, here is a very good review of a variety of protective eyewear.
http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/eye-protection-shooting-glasses-review/ DEFINITELY get something MIL-PRF-31013 rated. Oakley Ballistic M-Frames are but one of the many spectacles that carry this rating. |
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I took to the archives for a post I made in 2011: I have the Rudy Project Rydon's.These are their classic series and have been out for a while. I'm sure they have about a hundred models now but these work well for me, there are a ton of lens options and if it ain't broke.... http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/106661/36059.JPG I have 5 pair of lenses- clear, smoke, blue, red, & amber. In total hindsight I would only have 3- amber, clear, & laser [either blue or red]. I never use the smoke. http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/106661/36060.JPG This is what the glasses look like when the insert is installed. http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/106661/36061.JPG This is what the glasses look like when the insert is removed. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=36062 This is the insert. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=36064 http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=36063 Insert Installed from the rear. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=36065 And the whole rig in a nice carrying case. My advice: Buy the frames along with three sets of lenses total- amber, clear and some that will block sunlight. ImpactX lenses are what you want. Buy the RX insert. (If you wear Rx daily) Buy the carrying case. As far as the RX insert goes my guy is Rodney Dill. He has been making my glasses for over 15 years. He works out of Dr. Ed Shannon's office in Gainesville, GA [770-535-1467]. Give him a call, he's done several sets of these for me and others that I referred to him. With the right Rx he can probably do everything through the mail. One of the main reasons I like the Rx approach is that if I do decide on eye surgery I can toss the Rx insert and still have great shooting glasses. I have been looking for something like this for a while. Thank you! If I may ask, what does a setup like this run? |
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I have been looking for something like this for a while. Thank you! If I may ask, what does a setup like this run? I bought mine using a killer coupon code several years ago. I think that after it was all said and done $200-250 or so. Then I picked up a couple more sets of lenses after that. Full tilt on a kit with 3-4 lenses is about $350ish. They usually have a Black Friday sale. My advice is to get at least 2 sets of lenses- clear and some sort of mirrored- but only the impact X. The insert runs like $80, plus you have to use a local opt tech to get your Rx in to them. |