Posted: 3/26/2013 5:36:27 AM EDT
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Just got this email from GCO, thought I'd pass it along.
Scott March 25, 2013 Dear GCO Member, Our gun bill is flowing through the twist and turns, ups and downs of the legislative process. On Friday, the House voted to consolidate HB512 into SB101 and then pass that consolidated bill onto the Senate. The consolidated bill, which took on the Senate Bill number of SB101, has now been assigned to Conference Committee. There are two more days left in this years' session and action must be immediate in order for this bill to pass this year. The Conference Committee consists of 3 Senators and 3 Representatives who negotiate a bill that 4 members of the committee must agree to. They can amend the bill any way they need to in order to reach a conclusion. If the conference committee does not reach a conclusion, the bill will lie dormant for another year before it can be taken up again. If the conference committee reaches a conclusion and votes to carry the bill forward, the bill will be brought before each chamber were it will be voted upon. This is the most important stage of the process where many bills get derailed and forgotten so we need your help now more than ever. We need you to contact the Conference Committee members with a very brief and simple message, remembering to be polite but firm on your stand. Your message is: I support passage of SB101 and ask that the Opt In language be removed. The Senate members of the Conference Committee to send this very simple message are: Frank Ginn (R-47) Email - [email protected] Phone: (404) 656-4700 Cecil Staton (R-18) Email - [email protected] Phone: (404) 656-5039 Barry Loudermilk Email - [email protected] Phone: (404) 656-0065 The House members of the Conference Committee to send this very simple message are: John Meadows Email - [email protected] Phone - (404) 656-5141 Rick Jasperse Email - [email protected] Phone - (404) 656-0188 Alan Powell Email - [email protected] Phone - (404) 463-3793 GeorgiaCarry.Org's lobbyists and volunteer attorneys are working behind the scenes on improving SB101 and our Legislators need to see that there is support for the changes GeorgiaCarry is seeking. The Board of Regents hasn't given up and their taxpayer-funded lobbyists are working 24x7 to retain their pretend gun free zones that endanger our children. SB101 is a good bill. If we can get the Opt-In language (shown in red font) removed, SB101 will be a great gun bill and one that will push back on President Obama's gun-ban agenda. Here is what SB101 as passed the House on Friday includes: Campus carry on public colleges, except dorms and athletic events Campus carry on private colleges if the president adopts a policy permitting it Government building carry where no security screening or courthouse and permitting a way to escape arrest once you see security screening Church carry if the church permits carry Removal of fingerprints at renewal time (saves time and $45) Broader preemption both as to governing entities (boards, agencies, housing authorities) and weapons (everything in the broad school definition) Changing the general right to "forbid" firearms on private property to a restatement of criminal trespass 18-20 carry for honorably discharged vets Some level of school security enhancements by personnel already at schools Airport carry trying to make the state prove intent to bypass the metal detectors Clarifying that the unsecured area of an airport is not a government building or otherwise off limits GeorgiaCarry is also seeking other changes but the most important and pressing is removal of the Opt-In language. This language has the potential entrap unwary Licensees and is redundant with private property owners' rights under the Criminal Trespass law. Thanks in advance for all your hard work and continued support. ======================= eta: hotlink email addresses |
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GCO update: Dear GCO Member, We need all members to start contacting the Senate NOW and let them know that Campus Carry needs to stay in SB101 and SB101 needs to be passed by individual roll call vote. Please contact ALL republican Senators now and the preferred method is the telephone. Members of the Senate's phone numbers can be found http://www.senate.ga.gov/senators/en-US/SenateMembersList.aspx. Click on all names with Republican next to their names and their phone numbers will be revealed. Feel free to email them as well, but it is felt the method that will garner the most attention is the phone. If you want to email them, do so in the evening if possible. It appears that the Board of Regents taxpayer-funded lobbyists are making headway in retaining their pretend gun free zones that endanger our children. We need to let all Republican Senators know our feelings and ask for their vote to pass this bill with Campus Carry included in the bill. GeorgiaCarry.Org's lobbyists and volunteer attorneys are working behind the scenes on improving SB101 and our Legislators need to see that there is support for the changes GeorgiaCarry is seeking. Thanks in advance for all your hard work and continued support. |
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Time to start calling the Lt. Governor and Senate leadership. Demand a recorded vote on the SB101 conference committee report.
March 25, 2013
Dear GCO Member, GCO needs all members to Contact the following Senators and the Lt. Governor today! It is imperative that you contact Lt. Governor Casey Cagle today, tomorrow and Thursday! Please remember to be firm but polite when you are contacting any elected official. Tell him that you support campus carry and bringing the Conference Committee Report to the floor for a recorded vote. Contact for Lt. Governor Casey Cagle: TEL: (404) 656-5030 FAX: (404) 656-6739 It is also necessary to contact the following Senators again, telling them that you support campus carry and bringing the Conference Committee Report to the floor for a recorded vote. President Pro -Tempore - David Shafer - Phone (404) 656-0048 Majority Leader - Ronnie Chance - Phone (404) 463-1366 Caucus Chair - Butch Miller - Phone (404) 656-6578 Majority Whip - Cecil Staton - Phone (404) 656-5039 Please contact the above Senators via phone calls today. We need your elected officials to understand that this bill has your backing and needs to be moved forward. It will take all of our efforts to get this bill moved forth and keep it from dying in the Senate! Let the Senate feel the pressure from polite voters who have a personal interest in this issue instead of a government created entity paid for by "we the people". Thanks in advance for all your hard work. ======================= www.GeorgiaCarry.Org Fighting for your right to bear arms! |
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Email reply I got from Senator Barry Loudermilk:
Thank you for your message. I am working diligently to keep this bill as unrestrictive as possible. I believe, as the Constitution enumerates, lawful citizens have the right to "keep and bear arms," and I will continue to fight for that right. For Freedom! Barry Loudermilk State Senator District 14 (Bartow, Cherokee, Cobb) |
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Quoted: Quoted: Just made another round of calls. Spoke with people for most of them, a few ans. machines. Sending out some emails now! Gentleman4561 is headed down to the capital to lobby more. keep the pressure!! I am here now. After talking to Jerry Henry and Rep Alan Powell it looks like we are at a stand still right now. Call, call, fax, email, call and call some more!
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http://www.ajc.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/campus-carry-has-gun-bill-stymied/nW6nH/ WTF. "We thought we had a deal,” an exasperated Powell said. He said members of the conference committee on Senate Bill 101 had agreed, after Gov. Nathan Deal stepped in, to allow concealed weapons permit holders to carry weapons on college campuses with the stipulation that permit holders between the ages of 21 and 25 would have to complete an eight-hour safety course first. "We held our nose and went along,” Powell said. But this morning, he said, senators told House conferees that they now want to require anyone, regardless of age, to complete the safety course before being allowed to carry a firearm on campus. |
| An 8 hour safety course? Where did is this line of thinking that people need to justify their need for self defense and jump through hoops for the government come from? This bill is already so watered down with exceptions, now they're making it irreverent. And if they don't do anything by midnight they won't come back to this til next year. Government competency at its best. |
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Call Cecil Staton. Good chance he is holding this up. |
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Just called and left a message. His answering machine isn't full yet, so burn up the phone line y'all! |
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So does the house version of the bill contain the language requiring 21-25 year olds to get training for a CCL? If it does, that's utter bullshit.  Just remember how you eat an elephant. Making it take 8 hr classes before it can exercise it's rights? |
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So does the house version of the bill contain the language requiring 21-25 year olds to get training for a CCL? If it does, that's utter bullshit. Just remember how you eat an elephant. A step back to go a step forward? What happened to all the no compromise fervor?
It's shouldn't even be an issue in this state. We should have had constitutional carry by now, but we have to fight tooth and nail for campus carry, AND take an unnecessary infringement upon our rights to do so? I think we need to gut the legislature. |
time to work for 2014
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It's over no bill this year.
You can thank Frank Ginn for adding mandated training to campus carry then when agreed came back with mandated training for everyone effectively killing the bill. http://www.senate.ga.gov/senators/en-US/member.aspx?Member=751 Make sure you thank him. |
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It's over no bill this year. You can thank Frank Ginn for adding mandated training to campus carry then when agreed came back with mandated training for everyone effectively killing the bill. http://www.senate.ga.gov/senators/en-US/member.aspx?Member=751 Make sure you thank him. Please make a list of everyone that impeded or amended this bill to make it un-passable so we can vote those fuckers out. 
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Quoted: Quoted: It's over no bill this year. You can thank Frank Ginn for adding mandated training to campus carry then when agreed came back with mandated training for everyone effectively killing the bill. http://www.senate.ga.gov/senators/en-US/member.aspx?Member=751 Make sure you thank him. Please make a list of everyone that impeded or amended this bill to make it un-passable so we can vote those fuckers out. I will make sure this happens. |
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It's over no bill this year. You can thank Frank Ginn for adding mandated training to campus carry then when agreed came back with mandated training for everyone effectively killing the bill. http://www.senate.ga.gov/senators/en-US/member.aspx?Member=751 Make sure you thank him. Please make a list of everyone that impeded or amended this bill to make it un-passable so we can vote those fuckers out. I will make sure this happens. I wonder if we could get enough momentum for some recall elections?... |
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This is what I understand:
As above Ginn killed the bill but who helped him? Well near the deadline Thursday night AG Cagle released Cecil Staton. This prevented the ability to suspend the rules to keep the bill alive. Cagle was one that was holding the bill back early on. What part did he play? Well he excused Staton at about 10pm because he got butthurt by the house and I guess needed to go home and cry and they moaned about it loudly in the senate. Him leaving kept the senate from having enough votes to suspend rules. They needed to do that because at 10:54 my Senator calls and says Cagle is going to allow a vote and to get in touch with my Rep(he is the house sponsor). So now it takes time to get all the reports to folks(by senate rules they have 1 hour to read) well at 11:10 they have the reports on the desks, so they would need to vote to suspend rules. In the meantime a democrat is found that will fill Staton's place, but Cagle never calls SB101 up for vote. So what part does Cagle play..........indeed
How does a Conference Committee appointee (Cecil Staton), who supposedly had been working so hard on the Gun Bill, just get up and ask for permission to leave the Senate an hour before everything is over?
They just screwed over a whole lot of good folks. I sincerely hope it was worth it as I will never forget this nor will others who are following this bill. Alan Powell (House) spoke out but he doesn't assign names out of professional courtesy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ybN0oM7z24&feature=player_embedded A tidbit of information on Staton: http://macon.13wmaz.com/news/news/79080-gs-close-settlement-company-co-owned-sen-staton |
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This is what I understand: As above Ginn killed the bill but who helped him? Well near the deadline Thursday night AG Cagle released Cecil Staton. This prevented the ability to suspend the rules to keep the bill alive. Cagle was one that was holding the bill back early on. What part did he play? Well he excused Staton at about 10pm because he got butthurt by the house and I guess needed to go home and cry and they moaned about it loudly in the senate. Him leaving kept the senate from having enough votes to suspend rules. They needed to do that because at 10:54 my Senator calls and says Cagle is going to allow a vote and to get in touch with my Rep(he is the house sponsor). So now it takes time to get all the reports to folks(by senate rules they have 1 hour to read) well at 11:10 they have the reports on the desks, so they would need to vote to suspend rules. In the meantime a democrat is found that will fill Staton's place, but Cagle never calls SB101 up for vote. So what part does Cagle play..........indeed
How does a Conference Committee appointee (Cecil Staton), who supposedly had been working so hard on the Gun Bill, just get up and ask for permission to leave the Senate an hour before everything is over?
They just screwed over a whole lot of good folks. I sincerely hope it was worth it as I will never forget this nor will others who are following this bill. Alan Powell (House) spoke out but he doesn't assign names out of professional courtesy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ybN0oM7z24&feature=player_embedded A tidbit of information on Staton: http://macon.13wmaz.com/news/news/79080-gs-close-settlement-company-co-owned-sen-staton Tried to fix your links. Tough to do on a phone. Staton appears to be a real piece of shit. Someone who sits on a committee for higher education should not have business dealings with said higher education, much less be directly involved with legislation where higher education is heavily lobbying that legislation. |