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11/13/2011 10:31:41 AM EDT
Coyote problem at the neighbor's farm killing his livestock in North West Forsyth County. He asked me to hunt them down. Said his neighbor already nailed quite a few of them in the last few weeks but the pack is still large or perhaps there are several packs. He is writting a landowners letter that he says I will need to walk around there with a rifle and intent to hunt.

Do I legally need a hunting license or will the letter be enough?
Has anyone done this and if so how did you go about preparing for a successful hunt?
11/13/2011 10:57:57 AM EDT
[#1]
You will need a license.

11/13/2011 11:28:04 AM EDT
[#2]
Personally I don't think you will need a license.  The coyote doesn't fall under small game and definitely it doesn't fall under by game. There isn't such a license for predators, unless you are hunting a big cat or bobcats. I have had the local game warden tell me as far as coyotes and hogs it's a free for all. You can bait them, shine them with a light and no mag limits.
11/13/2011 11:38:53 AM EDT
[#3]
Whats a hunting license,  $10? Sounds like cheap CYA to me.
11/13/2011 12:39:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Whats a hunting license,  $10? Sounds like cheap CYA to me.


This.

Always err on the side of caution.
11/13/2011 3:23:40 PM EDT
[#5]
§ 27-2-1.  Hunting, trapping, or fishing without license or permit generally; nonresidents


  (a) It shall be unlawful for any person to hunt, fish, trap, or possess any wildlife or feral hog without first procuring all of the licenses, stamps, or permits required or authorized under this title.

(b) It shall be unlawful for any resident of this state who has attained the age of 16 years to hunt, fish in the waters of this state, or trap without a valid hunting license, fishing license, or trapping license, respectively, as provided in Code Section 27-2-23, except on premises owned by him or her or his or her immediate family. It shall be unlawful for any resident of this state to hunt, fish, or trap in this state without carrying such license upon his or her person, except on premises owned by him or her or his or her immediate family and except when otherwise specifically directed by authorized personnel of the department.

(c) It shall be unlawful for any person not a resident of Georgia who has attained the age of 16 years to hunt, fish in the waters of this state, or trap in this state without a valid nonresident hunting, fishing, or trapping license, respectively, as provided in Code Section 27-2-23, except as otherwise specifically provided by law and interstate agreements. It shall be unlawful for any nonresident to hunt, fish in the waters of this state, or trap without carrying such license on his or her person, unless otherwise specifically directed by authorized personnel of the department.

(d) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsections (b) and (c) of this Code section, no license shall be required to fish with permission of the owner from noncommercial premises not open to the public, including docks and foreshores of such premises, or at a facility or on a charter boat licensed pursuant to the provisions of Code Section 27-2-23.2.
11/13/2011 5:24:10 PM EDT
[#6]
have rifle, will travel and a license!

only been a few times, had a fox pro and a Red flood light.  place fox pro in the center of the field and sit off to the side of down wind.  NOT directly down wind as dogs like to run with their nose into the wind.  which means that if you are directly down wind they will be coming right into your back.....

red light can't be seen by the dogs (I guess).  sound the call, the seem to always reply, then wait.  look around with the red light for eyes occasionally.


identify then shoot.
11/13/2011 7:05:42 PM EDT
[#7]
DNR guy is quoting law so as to imply I need a license. I would not seriously think I would need one for a coyote but since it appears to be a dnr guy (or girl) - guess I do. But do they sell a "coyote" license? So................ if I was sitting there on my own land feeding my own cows/pigs/chickens/snipes and a coyote ran in rippin one up I could not shoot it because I had no license? Or ask my neighbor to shoot it? That doesnt seem right. Just sayin.

I'm guessing 3 - 6am. Yes? No? Do they hunt at dusk?
GAJeep - what is this call? Sounds remote. Got a link to what yer thinking?

Going out to tomorrow so he can show me the problem and the property lines.
11/13/2011 7:25:58 PM EDT
[#8]
If you own the land,  you don't need a license.  If it doesn't belong to you,  you do.
 











ETA:  He mentioned a Foxpro call.  Those are several hundred dollar electronic calls.  You set them in the middle of a field and you can operate it with remote control over 100 yds. away.  They're the bomb,  but costly.







If you want to go budget.  Get a rabbit distress mouth call.  You just have to be very careful not to call too much,  for they'll figure you out quickly.  If you don't have a decoy(like a coon tail that flips intermittently)  Just put out a stick with a feather tied to a thread.  The feather blowing in the breeze is enough movement to get them to come in closer for a better look.  







Like someone said earlier.  Try to get parallel side to the wind direction.  You don't want to be upwind or downwind.  I've been surprised a couple of times by yotes walking right up on me.

 
11/13/2011 7:27:26 PM EDT
[#9]
Have rifle and can and will travel
11/13/2011 7:48:10 PM EDT
[#10]
OK - good info.
I'll get a license going and check out the land tomorrow.
And I hear you guys so if this pans out I'll see if I can bring someone else in. Don't see why not.
11/13/2011 8:01:35 PM EDT
[#11]
Called a DNR ranger friend and he said that the coyotes are fair game any day anytime no license required . Also they can be hunted over bait,with spotlights, night vision,suppressors and no mag restrictions.
He did go on to say that in his opinion that you should use centerfire rifles only...
11/14/2011 3:16:19 AM EDT
[#12]
a hunting license alone is only like $10...why even argue about it?  all you need is the regular hunting license, no WMA tag, no big game, just the regular hunting license.

again, just saying, have rifle will travel :)

here's the foxpro
11/14/2011 4:28:32 AM EDT
[#13]
agree no reason to argue over 10.00 I just wanted to clear the air...
I also have rifle and will travel
11/14/2011 4:39:59 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Called a DNR ranger friend and he said that the coyotes are fair game any day anytime no license required . Also they can be hunted over bait,with spotlights, night vision,suppressors and no mag restrictions.
He did go on to say that in his opinion that you should use centerfire rifles only...


Might want to recheck that. That debate has taken place here a few times and as far as I can tell, you cannot hunt at all with suppressor in GA.
11/14/2011 4:50:04 AM EDT
[#15]
Iirc... You will have to take a hunter safety course before you can get a hunting license.  I'm not sure what age group this applies to.
11/14/2011 6:30:05 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Iirc... You will have to take a hunter safety course before you can get a hunting license.  I'm not sure what age group this applies to.


Residents and non-residents born on or after January 1, 1961 must successfully complete a hunter education course prior to purchasing a season hunting license.  However,  a hunter education course is not required to purchase an Apprentice License or a three (3) day Combo Hunting/Fishing License.
11/14/2011 7:09:39 AM EDT
[#17]
you will have to have a hunter safety card. I think you can use the card from any state....

you can take the course online and then take a 2 hr class (1 hr and 1 hr test) I was out of there in 1hr 5min. and made a 100 on the test.

11/14/2011 8:15:42 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Iirc... You will have to take a hunter safety course before you can get a hunting license.  I'm not sure what age group this applies to.


Doesn't apply to us old farts!

9/5/59 FTW!!!!
11/14/2011 9:13:39 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Called a DNR ranger friend and he said that the coyotes are fair game any day anytime no license required . Also they can be hunted over bait,with spotlights, night vision,suppressors and no mag restrictions.
He did go on to say that in his opinion that you should use centerfire rifles only...


Might want to recheck that. That debate has taken place here a few times and as far as I can tell, you cannot hunt at all with suppressor in GA.


Checked and double checked coyotes are non game and non resident animals...

11/14/2011 9:19:31 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Iirc... You will have to take a hunter safety course before you can get a hunting license.  I'm not sure what age group this applies to.


Doesn't apply to us old farts!

9/5/59 FTW!!!!


yea you might be able to skip that but we will be able to hunt after you are dead....you old fart!
11/14/2011 10:20:25 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Called a DNR ranger friend and he said that the coyotes are fair game any day anytime no license required . Also they can be hunted over bait,with spotlights, night vision,suppressors and no mag restrictions.
He did go on to say that in his opinion that you should use centerfire rifles only...


Might want to recheck that. That debate has taken place here a few times and as far as I can tell, you cannot hunt at all with suppressor in GA.


Checked and double checked coyotes are non game and non resident animals...



Your DNR ranger buddy may let some things slide in his district, but the OP may not be so fortunate if he encounters a ranger where he is hunting.  I'm not trying to bust anyones balls here by pressing the issue, just trying to limit what appears to be the spread of misinformation.  Non-game/ non-native species doesn't matter, it's still considered "hunting" and the regulations still apply.  The regs are pretty clear on licensing as well as many other issues when they are looked up.  OCGA was even posted above in regards to the licensing issue.  

"Silencers may not be used for hunting."  Page 17 of the regs book.  http://georgiawildlife.com/hunting/regulations  I have no doubt you would find corresponding OCGA.    

OP, here are a couple articles to read on coyote hunting to help get you started...  

http://www.gon.com/article.php?id=677

http://www.gon.com/article.php?id=676

Varmint Al is also a good site to learn about coyote hunting.  In addition to providing tips there are instructions for making a caller and decoy.  He has some sounds available for free download as well.  

Happy Hunting!
11/14/2011 10:23:22 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Iirc... You will have to take a hunter safety course before you can get a hunting license.  I'm not sure what age group this applies to.


Doesn't apply to us old farts!

9/5/59 FTW!!!!


yea you might be able to skip that but we will be able to hunt after you are dead....you old fart!


LMAO!!!

There is THAT.....
11/14/2011 11:03:21 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Called a DNR ranger friend and he said that the coyotes are fair game any day anytime no license required . Also they can be hunted over bait,with spotlights, night vision,suppressors and no mag restrictions.
He did go on to say that in his opinion that you should use centerfire rifles only...


Might want to recheck that. That debate has taken place here a few times and as far as I can tell, you cannot hunt at all with suppressor in GA.


Checked and double checked coyotes are non game and non resident animals...



SPECIAL FIREARM RESTRICTIONS
• Plugged Shotguns: Shotguns must be
plugged to a maximum capacity of 3 shells
(magazine and chamber combined) except
for deer, bear and feral hog shotguns,
which are limited to maximum capacity
of 5 shells. Plugs must be one piece and
incapable of being removed through the
loading end of the magazine.
Silencers: Silencers may not be used for
hunting.


Page 19 http://www.eregulations.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/11GAHD_LR1.pdf
11/14/2011 12:49:41 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Called a DNR ranger friend and he said that the coyotes are fair game any day anytime no license required . Also they can be hunted over bait,with spotlights, night vision,suppressors and no mag restrictions.
He did go on to say that in his opinion that you should use centerfire rifles only...


Might want to recheck that. That debate has taken place here a few times and as far as I can tell, you cannot hunt at all with suppressor in GA.


Checked and double checked coyotes are non game and non resident animals...



SPECIAL FIREARM RESTRICTIONS
• Plugged Shotguns: Shotguns must be
plugged to a maximum capacity of 3 shells
(magazine and chamber combined) except
for deer, bear and feral hog shotguns,
which are limited to maximum capacity
of 5 shells. Plugs must be one piece and
incapable of being removed through the
loading end of the magazine.
Silencers: Silencers may not be used for
hunting.


Page 19 http://www.eregulations.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/11GAHD_LR1.pdf


what about wholesale slaughter of pest animals?
11/14/2011 1:16:07 PM EDT
[#25]
Eradication of said animals according to some dnr rangers "anything goes" but you have to watch out for the select few assholes as well I say dont risk it because it is not worth the hassle that may come to you...
11/14/2011 1:37:47 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Eradication of said animals according to some dnr rangers "anything goes" but you have to watch out for the select few assholes as well I say dont risk it because it is not worth the hassle that may come to you...


What, you mean the ones that actually enforce the law?

Feeling_Infringed is all over it (including Varmint Al...that site rocks).
It's right there on pg 28 of the regs and coyotes are listed as small game.
Just b/c there's no closed season on them doesn't mean there are no laws or rules governing the killing of them.
It's still hunting, and the hunting laws apply.  

As far as the private land, that's pretty clear in the regs as well.  You own it, or a blood relative (directly out of the regs) are the only exemptions to having a license.

11/14/2011 2:16:41 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Called a DNR ranger friend and he said that the coyotes are fair game any day anytime no license required . Also they can be hunted over bait,with spotlights, night vision,suppressors and no mag restrictions.
He did go on to say that in his opinion that you should use centerfire rifles only...


Might want to recheck that. That debate has taken place here a few times and as far as I can tell, you cannot hunt at all with suppressor in GA.


Checked and double checked coyotes are non game and non resident animals...



SPECIAL FIREARM RESTRICTIONS
• Plugged Shotguns: Shotguns must be
plugged to a maximum capacity of 3 shells
(magazine and chamber combined) except
for deer, bear and feral hog shotguns,
which are limited to maximum capacity
of 5 shells. Plugs must be one piece and
incapable of being removed through the
loading end of the magazine.
Silencers: Silencers may not be used for
hunting.


Page 19 http://www.eregulations.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/11GAHD_LR1.pdf


what about wholesale slaughter of pest animals?


Well, taking the example of hogs, which aren't regulated... you are fully authorized to whack and stack until you wear your trigger finger to a stub and your shoulder to jelly and then some.
11/14/2011 3:18:31 PM EDT
[#28]
http://www.predatormastersforums.com/

Here is a great site to learn predator hunting tactics and tips.
11/14/2011 7:17:30 PM EDT
[#29]
OP when hunting coyotes, its all about the wind. You have to play the wind and they will sometimes circle around you to see if they can catch a scent before coming in to the call so scent control is important. More so than camo.  You just about have to have a call to get them with any consistincy and if you shoot at one and miss,  or get busted by one you'll have a hard time hunting there for a while. I'm in Forsyth county and might have access to an electronic call let me know if I can help you with anything.
11/15/2011 11:56:11 AM EDT
[#30]
I know suppressors are out, but what's the ruling on SBRs? I couldn't find mention of that or any NFA exclusion other than suppressors.