Posted: 7/5/2011 7:47:25 PM EDT
| Since I am out of work and have a clean slate to start with how do I become and instructor and teach police officers/security guards and anybody how to shoot pistols and rifles ? I would possibly like to gain employment at the Georgia Public Safety Training Center. |
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The Secretary of State's office could be a valuable resource in your venture; I was a PSC for a while and they handled all of my licensing for armed and unarmed security work, as well as instructor licensing for the same.
Here: GA Secretary of State's Website How to do it from scratch, though, I'm not sure (meaning, getting the training for the licenses). My employers took care of most of that stuff for me. ETA: I'm going to assume that becoming an instructor at GPSTC almost certainly requires becoming POST certified. |
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I'm not sure how soon you are wanting to get started Instructing, but you could always go the route I did.
First, I joined the United States Marine Corps as a Grunt. I'm not sure what your age is, or what the current cut-off for enlistment is. I graduated from Parris Island, went to the School of Infantry and ended up being selected for Security Forces (basically, guarding our bases and such overseas). Lucked out and got sent to the Philippines where, instead of standing guard, Security Forces can mean doing "live" jungle patrols in the enormous area that was the Naval Reservation over there. Selected to go to Scout/Sniper School stateside, where I graduated and came back to the Philippines for more jungle work, spiced from time to time with Scout/Sniper work. 62 days after Mt Pinatubo erupted, I was part of the flag detail that pulled down the National Ensign when we closed the base down. Hopped on the USS Belleau Wood and steamed to Okinawa where we caught a plane to CONUS. Sent to a Grunt battalion at Camp Lejeune and found a home in STA Platoon (Surveillance and Target Acquisition, aka Scout/Snipers). During this period, went around the world a few times, had a lovely time in Mogadishu, Somalia, and got promoted a few times. Got to train with more foreign militaries than I can remember (some were lousy, some were good, and some were great). Went to several schools, like MCIWS (Marine Corps Instructor Water Survival), Scout Swimmer, Small Arms Instructor, Grenadier, Amphibious Raid and a ton more. Fit some time in while stateside to shoot competitively for my battalion's rifle/pistol team. Spent my last year as the NCOIC of the main pistol at Camp Lejeune, Stone Bay Range. Ran that for nearly a near and then got out. As a civilian, obtained my NRA Instructor certification (joke that it is) and taught for a while until I got into LE. Was a street officer, SWAT officer and street crimes (aka "Dope") for almost 7 years. Took every single firearms and firearms-related class I could get my hands on. Got my General Instructor and then every firearms-related Instructor certification I could lay my hands on. Jumped ship and went to work for the Feds, where I once again worked on obtaining my firearms-related Instructor certifications. So, I started in 1988 and progressed to where I am now. I'm sure if you concentrated strictly on just the Instructor certifications, you could go my route and do it quicker than the 23 years it took me to amass all my certifications, knowledge, training and real-life experience. |
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In short-order, you will need to gain some experience. Usually most basic firearm instruction courses require some type of documented tutelage for at least a year before taking an instructor class and becoming "certified", including the NRA. It is usually not something you can jump directly into. Good Luck |
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I'm not sure how soon you are wanting to get started Instructing, but you could always go the route I did. First, I joined the United States Marine Corps as a Grunt. I'm not sure what your age is, or what the current cut-off for enlistment is. I graduated from Parris Island, went to the School of Infantry and ended up being selected for Security Forces (basically, guarding our bases and such overseas). Lucked out and got sent to the Philippines where, instead of standing guard, Security Forces can mean doing "live" jungle patrols in the enormous area that was the Naval Reservation over there. Selected to go to Scout/Sniper School stateside, where I graduated and came back to the Philippines for more jungle work, spiced from time to time with Scout/Sniper work. 62 days after Mt Pinatubo erupted, I was part of the flag detail that pulled down the National Ensign when we closed the base down. Hopped on the USS Belleau Wood and steamed to Okinawa where we caught a plane to CONUS. Sent to a Grunt battalion at Camp Lejeune and found a home in STA Platoon (Surveillance and Target Acquisition, aka Scout/Snipers). During this period, went around the world a few times, had a lovely time in Mogadishu, Somalia, and got promoted a few times. Got to train with more foreign militaries than I can remember (some were lousy, some were good, and some were great). Went to several schools, like MCIWS (Marine Corps Instructor Water Survival), Scout Swimmer, Small Arms Instructor, Grenadier, Amphibious Raid and a ton more. Fit some time in while stateside to shoot competitively for my battalion's rifle/pistol team. Spent my last year as the NCOIC of the main pistol at Camp Lejeune, Stone Bay Range. Ran that for nearly a near and then got out. As a civilian, obtained my NRA Instructor certification (joke that it is) and taught for a while until I got into LE. Was a street officer, SWAT officer and street crimes (aka "Dope") for almost 7 years. Took every single firearms and firearms-related class I could get my hands on. Got my General Instructor and then every firearms-related Instructor certification I could lay my hands on. Jumped ship and went to work for the Feds, where I once again worked on obtaining my firearms-related Instructor certifications. So, I started in 1988 and progressed to where I am now. I'm sure if you concentrated strictly on just the Instructor certifications, you could go my route and do it quicker than the 23 years it took me to amass all my certifications, knowledge, training and real-life experience. Forgot TV Expert on Canadian Snipers 
Thanks for all you did & do. Waiting patiently for when the stars align to take your basic precision class. 7mm |
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Ok... I need to get my NRA Range Officer so I can be hired. How do I go about getting this? I looked on the NRA site and it states that you need to be a certified NRA instructor but it also goes on to say that you can get range officer without being a instructor...I am now confused...
NRS Website: How does one become a certified NRA Range Safety Officer? Individuals who currently possess a valid NRA Firearms Instructor certification or NRA Coach appointment in one of the NRA’s firearms training programs have the option of taking the Range Safety Officer course by home validation. Those individuals who do not hold a trainer rating must attend a Range Safety Officer course. Range Safety Officer courses are conducted by Chief Range Safety Officers. (“Chief Range Safety Officers” are those individuals certified to train NRA Range Safety Officers.) The Range Safety Officer course is a nine-hour course that consists of classroom time and practical exercises conducted on a range. Range Safety Officer candidates will receive the Range Safety Officer Student Packet. |
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Ok... I need to get my NRA Range Officer so I can be hired. How do I go about getting this? I looked on the NRA site and it states that you need to be a certified NRA instructor but it also goes on to say that you can get range officer without being a instructor...I am now confused... NRS Website: How does one become a certified NRA Range Safety Officer? Individuals who currently possess a valid NRA Firearms Instructor certification or NRA Coach appointment in one of the NRA’s firearms training programs have the option of taking the Range Safety Officer course by home validation. Those individuals who do not hold a trainer rating must attend a Range Safety Officer course. Range Safety Officer courses are conducted by Chief Range Safety Officers. (“Chief Range Safety Officers” are those individuals certified to train NRA Range Safety Officers.) The Range Safety Officer course is a nine-hour course that consists of classroom time and practical exercises conducted on a range. Range Safety Officer candidates will receive the Range Safety Officer Student Packet. If you are already a NRA Instructor, you can take the class on your own at your own house by reading the booklets and taking the test. It is quite easy. If you are not an instructor, you need to take it with someone who teaches the course. Just to let you know, most places are starting to understand that there are many unqualified NRA Instructors out there. Just having that certification really doesn't mean much. |
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Just to let you know, most places are starting to understand that there are many unqualified NRA Instructors out there. Just having that certification really doesn't mean much. Very much agree. In fact I've encountered more unskilled, poor weapon handling NRA "Instructors" than guys who were squared away. Heck, one of our one HTF "NRA Instructors" is the guy who made new shooters in one of his "classes" point handguns at his FACE so he could tell if they were aligning the sights properly. 
I wonder what the NRA thinks of that little stunt and that guy representing the NRA? This is the same in any profession. Take the IT world. All the really strong guru programmers with whom I worked were self taught for the most part. Heck, most of them didn't go to college. And the guys with all the certifications and degrees were the weak guys on the team. Firearms training is no different. Unfortunately though sometimes it takes the credentials to get your foot in the door. No matter what I'll take the guy who can perform and has experience in the real world over the guy with some mostly meaningless certification. YMMV. Mark |
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Well I just though I would ask...I wish I could find something worth doing I am not the type to sit at home and collect unemployment...Not to mention 340 a week is nowhere near what I was making... I make that every two weeks...  Five Weeks 
As for the instructor thing....if you ever make it, I'll be in line. I'm always down. |
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Quoted: That is retarded and the guy should be outed to Richardson @ NRA who would, in a minute, remove this person from the ranks as he should. That said, I bristle at the notion that all NRA instructors are lame ducks. As one, I work my friggin ass off to make sure the content is clean of anything that would hinder a new shooter or leave training scars. Yes I've seen a counselor not pass through somebody they felt wasn't up the task but sadly that's not the case all the time so we do have some less than qualified personnel out there and it's incumbent on us all to police those ranks by not allowing this sort of thing to go unchallenged.Very much agree. In fact I've encountered more unskilled, poor weapon handling NRA "Instructors" than guys who were squared away. Heck, one of our one HTF "NRA Instructors" is the guy who made new shooters in one of his "classes" point handguns at his FACE so he could tell if they were aligning the sights properly. I wonder what the NRA thinks of that little stunt and that guy representing the NRA? This is the same in any profession. Take the IT world. All the really strong guru programmers with whom I worked were self taught for the most part. Heck, most of them didn't go to college. And the guys with all the certifications and degrees were the weak guys on the team. Firearms training is no different. Unfortunately though sometimes it takes the credentials to get your foot in the door. No matter what I'll take the guy who can perform and has experience in the real world over the guy with some mostly meaningless certification. YMMV. Mark |
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The reason I am asking is that a local rage will be looking soon for a person to open and close ,security,safety,distribute firearms and ammunition,targets,cleanup and maintenance and anything else they may need.
I was just thinking that if I was an nra range officer it may help in the long run. As stated above I belive that I can cover any and all "range safety" basics and possibly later after some closes I may help teach carbine and pistol classes. |
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The reason I am asking is that a local rage will be looking soon for a person to open and close ,security,safety,distribute firearms and ammunition,targets,cleanup and maintenance and anything else they may need. I was just thinking that if I was an nra range officer it may help in the long run. As stated above I belive that I can cover any and all "range safety" basics and possibly later after some closes I may help teach carbine and pistol classes. I have taken the NRA classes. They teach the very basics, but you only learn on the gun you and other classmates bring. I took a instructor course with Tom Givens - Rangemaster down at ScottV's place. Tom brought several cases worth of guns that you will run into while working on a range and teaching classes (highpoints, old beretta 22s, etc). In order to pass his class, you must shoot above a 90 on the FBI's course of fire and pass a written test. It also qualifies you to teach Tennessee's required class for a carry license. Overall, the course taught me a good bit. |