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7/10/2010 11:50:55 AM EDT
So after finishing my first build (Spikes lower, CMMG lower parts kit, Spikes midlegnth upper) I took it to the range today, and the trigger is not resetting. It is cycling the next round, but the trigger is only reset when the charging handle is used. Any ideas on what could be wrong?

Thanks in advance..
7/10/2010 11:56:30 AM EDT
[#1]
You probably inverted either the hammer, trigger or disconnector spring.

My first guess is the Trigger Spring. Also check the disconnector spring, I've seen people put them in upside down.


My advice would be to double check your springs. If they are fine apply Lube.
7/10/2010 12:12:07 PM EDT
[#2]
I had this issue with mine when it was relatively new, I put around 200 rounds flawlessly, then it stuck for around 100 rounds and then went back to working fine and has ever since.
7/10/2010 12:54:22 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
You probably inverted either the hammer, trigger or disconnector spring.

My first guess is the Trigger Spring. Also check the disconnector spring, I've seen people put them in upside down.


My advice would be to double check your springs. If they are fine apply Lube.


This. /

If you want me to look at it you can bring it over..
7/10/2010 7:33:28 PM EDT
[#4]
Thanks!!
7/11/2010 7:34:00 AM EDT
[#5]
So what was it?
7/11/2010 8:16:57 AM EDT
[#6]
Not quite sure, I just pulled the assembly out today... here is how I had it set:

7/11/2010 8:19:42 AM EDT
[#7]
pull your disconnecter out and take a pic of it. Something doesn't look right with it.
7/11/2010 8:26:39 AM EDT
[#8]
Here's one with the disconnector out, sorry about the cell phone pics:

The bumpy texture on some of the pieces is red grease.

7/11/2010 8:37:20 AM EDT
[#9]
Here is what it is supposed to look like.


7/11/2010 8:38:18 AM EDT
[#10]
ugh, i forgot to put in the disconnector spring.
7/11/2010 8:39:44 AM EDT
[#11]
It looks like you are missing the disconnecter spring that goes in the back of the trigger and in the notch cut out of the disconnecter.
7/11/2010 8:42:40 AM EDT
[#12]
Much thanks for the help guys. I have two small springs left from when I put it together. They are both small, but one is a little bigger on one end than the other. The last two coils are a little wider. Any idea which is the right spring?
7/11/2010 8:43:42 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Much thanks for the help guys. I have two small springs left from when I put it together. They are both small, but one is a little bigger on one end than the other. The last two coils are a little wider. Any idea which is the right spring?


The wider end goes into the cup in the back of the trigger
7/11/2010 8:49:24 AM EDT
[#14]
Got it! Thanks again! Now back to the range. :)
7/11/2010 9:31:10 AM EDT
[#15]
Kujo, I live in Dacula and will be home all day if you need a hand.
7/11/2010 9:38:34 AM EDT
[#16]
Thanks for the generous offer!

I got the disconnector spring in and the assembly back in the rifle, just need to test it.
7/11/2010 10:20:49 AM EDT
[#17]
Word to the wise-  extra parts are usually a problem.  :)

Glad you got it figured out.
7/11/2010 10:28:37 AM EDT
[#18]
Yeah, I've been wondering what that other spring is since I got the kit back out.
7/11/2010 3:49:27 PM EDT
[#19]
Did you put the spring in the bolt catch? It's about the same size as the disco spring, but with no hoop.
7/11/2010 5:21:55 PM EDT
[#20]
Yeah i went back through the instructions and it seems that was the only one I missed. I the moe lower build kit from Palmetto State Armory, so there was duplication of a few parts.
7/12/2010 7:59:11 AM EDT
[#21]

Just FYI, any time you mess with a trigger group you ought to do a function test of the escapement (I love that word).

Easy to do on any semi-auto...

-Make sure no ammo in firearm!!!
-pull trigger
-keep trigger pulled to rear and either cycle action (or reset hammer with other hand if only working with the lower)
-very slowly release the trigger
Hammer should drop to the trigger from the sear without falling all the way forward
-pull trigger hammer should release.

Do it several times to be sure.

I am finally working on my semi-auto Bren kit I bought like 8 years ago, I thought for sure the guy who had done the semi-auto parts conversion had made a FA trigger group until I got it all apart and reassembled.  The interaction of the new sear/trigger parts was not very obvious and required the bolt carrier to be present to function properly.  Trigger groups can be uber-funky things, but they all have an escapement if they are semi-auto.