Posted: 10/6/2009 5:10:30 AM EDT
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27 Cars broken into so far in Pooler, doors found open across our neighborhood, one car window was smashed with a brick, I guess they left their purse inside...
In Alaska, you can kill a man for touching your car, sled, atv, whatever. I think that should be the law everywhere... and chop of their hands too, only one, the second time they get caught, you chop of the nose, lower lip, whatever, just have fun with it. |
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27 Cars broken into so far in Pooler, doors found open across our neighborhood, one car window was smashed with a brick, I guess they left their purse inside... In Alaska, you can kill a man for touching your car, sled, atv, whatever. I think that should be the law everywhere... and chop of their hands too, only one, the second time they get caught, you chop of the nose, lower lip, whatever, just have fun with it. I don't believe in chopping off hands for punishment, simply because we are then making it harder for them to be productive members of society if they are released. I am all for hanging and torturing thieves though. |
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Too funny, after posting, I was walking around my yard and the neighbors looking for anything that could be mine. I found one of my walther .22 mags in my neighbors yard. I always bring my pistol into the home and lock it in the safe... I have two kids. My wife's sister asked about our TomTom... yep, stolen, along with a book of checks, now canceled.
So my wife says to me, isn't weird how you were just talking about some of the guys on your "gun internet thingy" and how they said to never keep your home address in your GPS... Without a beat, she quickly cuts me off as I start to laugh, and she says yeah D!*K, I know they stole it from our house and with our checks, but damn, crime is getting worse and worse across all of Savannah. |
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People park their cars outside? I wouldn't own a house that didn't have an enclosed (and therefore lockable) garage. If I have to park my car outside for whatever reason (at a motel on a trip, etc.), I leave NOTHING of value in the car. I can't believe anyone leaves a GPS unit (or a gun, holy crap) in their car that's parked outside with no armed security guards present. Wow.
I mean, I know you shouldn't have to worry about thieves, but do people not live in the real world that's actually full of crime? Are they living in a fantasy Mayberry world? Cobb precinct one sends me the PENS email bulletin all the time - I can't believe the number of crimes listed where people just left valuables right in the car, and most of them left the car unlocked or the window down. Un-fricking-believable. ETA: Rereading the thread, I see the OP (I think) parked his car/truck outside and had valuables stolen from it. I am sorry for your loss, but out of curiousity, why can't you park in the garage? ETA2: I also don't support the "shoot anyone who touches your car" sentiment. It's a car an it's just stuff in it. I hate thieves as much as the next guy, but incarceration and paying back what they damaged or took is what they deserve. It's not like they murdered someone, and this is not Iran. If you are IN the car, or if they are breaking into your house, blow them away. They probably aren't coming in to help you carry the groceries, so physical damage is most likely warranted to prevent harm to you or your family. But permanent physical harm for breaking into an unmanned car parked outside? Theft is not okay, but it's not worth killing someone over or cutting off a hand (at least not to me). |
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People park their cars outside? I wouldn't own a house that didn't have an enclosed (and therefore lockable) garage. If I have to park my car outside for whatever reason (at a motel on a trip, etc.), I leave NOTHING of value in the car. I can't believe anyone leaves a GPS unit (or a gun, holy crap) in their car that's parked outside with no armed security guards present. Wow. I mean, I know you shouldn't have to worry about thieves, but do people not live in the real world that's actually full of crime? Are they living in a fantasy Mayberry world? Cobb precinct one sends me the PENS email bulletin all the time - I can't believe the number of crimes listed where people just left valuables right in the car, and most of them left the car unlocked or the window down. Un-fricking-believable. ETA: Rereading the thread, I see the OP (I think) parked his car/truck outside and had valuables stolen from it. I am sorry for your loss, but out of curiousity, why can't you park in the garage? ETA2: I also don't support the "shoot anyone who touches your car" sentiment. It's a car an it's just stuff in it. I hate thieves as much as the next guy, but incarceration and paying back what they damaged or took is what they deserve. It's not like they murdered someone, and this is not Iran. If you are IN the car, or if they are breaking into your house, blow them away. They probably aren't coming in to help you carry the groceries, so physical damage is most likely warranted to prevent harm to you or your family. But permanent physical harm for breaking into an unmanned car parked outside? Theft is not okay, but it's not worth killing someone over or cutting off a hand (at least not to me). Fyi, many houses in the Savannah area don't have garages (think older houses). That said, I don't park either of my vehicles in my garage, but I also don't leave anything valuable in them. |
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Fyi, many houses in the Savannah area don't have garages (think older houses). That said, I don't park either of my vehicles in my garage, but I also don't leave anything valuable in them. I've been to Savannah a couple of times, and I saw a lot of older houses. You're right - I don't remember a lot of garages. But do they have ordinances against building one or something? A free-standing garage could be built to match your home in basic design, if it's an appearance issue. Stick a pineapple on a stand outside it to symbolize hospitality, and it would blend right in. |
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Theft of unlocked vehicles is the biggest problem in my area of Cobb, too. This is led by GPS units suction cupped to the front windshield, purses left in the open, or laptops left in the open.
When I worked in downtown Chicago I wouldn't have left a skidded brown pair of boxers in the back seat for fear of them breaking into my car to steal them. I worked in NY and we had cars with NO RADIO because the thieves were so prevalent. In Houston they would steal cars that didn't even run. The thieves in Cobb are pretty low maintenance... Just put the electronics out of plain view. |
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Theft of unlocked vehicles is the biggest problem in my area of Cobb, too. This is led by GPS units suction cupped to the front windshield, purses left in the open, or laptops left in the open. When I worked in downtown Chicago I wouldn't have left a skidded brown pair of boxers in the back seat for fear of them breaking into my car to steal them. I worked in NY and we had cars with NO RADIO because the thieves were so prevalent. In Houston they would steal cars that didn't even run. The thieves in Cobb are pretty low maintenance... Just put the electronics out of plain view. Huh??? |
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Theft of unlocked vehicles is the biggest problem in my area of Cobb, too. This is led by GPS units suction cupped to the front windshield, purses left in the open, or laptops left in the open. When I worked in downtown Chicago I wouldn't have left a skidded brown pair of boxers in the back seat for fear of them breaking into my car to steal them. I worked in NY and we had cars with NO RADIO because the thieves were so prevalent. In Houston they would steal cars that didn't even run. The thieves in Cobb are pretty low maintenance... Just put the electronics out of plain view. Huh??? The parking company had a sign outside the office "When a Car is Stolen, Call 713-XXX-XXXX" Notice the sign didn't say "if". This was near the ghetto and they would steal POS cars that barely ran hoping to get them across the border to LA on Friday afternoons. Most of the time they were found abandoned on the way out of TX. Nobody drove a nice car to that office. |
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27 Cars broken into so far in Pooler, doors found open across our neighborhood, one car window was smashed with a brick, I guess they left their purse inside... In Alaska, you can kill a man for touching your car, sled, atv, whatever. I think that should be the law everywhere... and chop of their hands too, only one, the second time they get caught, you chop of the nose, lower lip, whatever, just have fun with it. What exactly is the law pertaining to auto theft/burglary in Ga. Can the perp be shot if you catch him jacking your car stereo system? "Honest, Judge, I was just holding him at gun point, and a round just cooked off....twice." |
| We have been catching quite a few people trying to break into our vehicles in Villa Rica at our warehouse. It happens around 1-2 am we have sat out there and watched them look in cars. Call the PD they show up and the guys run. We have been forbidden to intervene in anyway. So now we have to watch our cars get broken into. |
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A few years ago we had a rash of car thefts and burglary at hotels and shops along I-95 & 204 (also near Savannah-HD and Hooters). This all goes back to the merger.
Pooler, being in incorporated Chatham County and its own muncipality can be patroled by both SCMPD and Pooler PD. However, because it has its own PD, which is small (I believe less than 20 sworn personnel), SCMPD doesn't patrol it. This was never the case when there was Chatham County PD, which did patrol and respond to all of Chatham County, minus Savannah city limits. When the merger, rather hostile takeover, occured, SCMPD's priorities became west and east Savannah and a sprinkling of mid-town. Leaving the county to pretty much fend for itself. Remember CCPD's new building, now the Sheriff's complex, that's actually in the county? It used to be on the southside and was finally moved to increase response time and presence in the county. As Pooler grows in affluence, influence, and size its PD must grow as well or SCMPD must cover down on more of the area. Pooler probably has less police/per capita when you consider the size of their jurisdiction. Consider the poorer areas of Bloomingdale, Faulkville, and unincorprated Effingham, there will be a sigifnicant increase in crime because of the lack of ability to patrol and respond. My advice... Diall .357 while 911 |
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What exactly is the law pertaining to auto theft/burglary in Ga. Can the perp be shot if you catch him jacking your car stereo system? From the Georgia State University Law School: 3. Defense of Property
O.C.G.A. § 16-3-24 (2008): Use of force in defense of property. Summary: This code section states the law of defense where an individual is preventing or terminating another’s trespass, tortious or criminal interference with real property. O.C.G.A. § 16-1-3(6) (2008): “Forcible felony” defined. Summary: This code section defines a “forcible felony” to mean any felony which involves the use or threat of physical force or violence against any person. Force likely to cause death or great bodily injury is only authorized when one reasonably believes they are stopping the commission of a forcible felony. O.C.G.A. § 16-3-24.1 (2008): "Habitation" and "personal property" defined. Summary: This code section defines “personal property” to mean personal property other than a motor vehicle. O.C.G.A. § 16-3-23.1 (2008): Use of force in defense of habitation, property, self, or others; no duty to retreat. Summary: This section affirms one of Georgia’s common law traditions by stating that an individual acting under O.C.G.A. 16-3-24 has no duty to retreat and he or she has the right to stand his or her ground when acting in defense defense of property defenses 3. Defense of Property
Patel v. State, 278 Ga. 759 (2004)(limits the defense of property justification to situations where a forcible felony is directed at the person of the defendant). State v. Moore, 243 Ga. 594 (1979)(defense of property against another requires that force be used against a person, where defendant was convicted of criminal trespass for breaking down a gate to property he claimed a proscriptive right to). |
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Quoted: What exactly is the law pertaining to auto theft/burglary in Ga. Can the perp be shot if you catch him jacking your car stereo system? "Honest, Judge, I was just holding him at gun point, and a round just cooked off....twice." In GA, regarding personal property, deadly force can only be used in the imminent danger of life and limb of yourself and someone else. Inside your house, deadly force is allowed, however you'd have a hard time of ducking charges if it is shown that the rounds entered from the back 180. If you catch them breaking into your car, basically your hands are tied to just calling 911 and waiting the 3-5 mins for an officer to show. Now if he turns on you with any type of weapon, then you moved into the life and limb category. |
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ETA2: I also don't support the "shoot anyone who touches your car" sentiment. It's a car an it's just stuff in it. I hate thieves as much as the next guy, but incarceration and paying back what they damaged or took is what they deserve. It's not like they murdered someone, and this is not Iran. If you are IN the car, or if they are breaking into your house, blow them away. They probably aren't coming in to help you carry the groceries, so physical damage is most likely warranted to prevent harm to you or your family. But permanent physical harm for breaking into an unmanned car parked outside? Theft is not okay, but it's not worth killing someone over or cutting off a hand (at least not to me). It's a tad different in Alaska. Someone stealing your vehicle or making it inoperable could put you in a very bad way. I've never been to Alaska, but I was stationed in Iceland for three years. You do not want to be stranded in the middle of BFE during bad weather. Mother nature will kill your ass. I'm pretty sure that slant has something to do with the way the laws in Alaska are. Is that an issue here in GA, no not so much. |
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ETA: Rereading the thread, I see the OP (I think) parked his car/truck outside and had valuables stolen from it. I am sorry for your loss, but out of curiousity, why can't you park in the garage? ETA2: I also don't support the "shoot anyone who touches your car" sentiment. It's a car an it's just stuff in it. I hate thieves as much as the next guy, but incarceration and paying back what they damaged or took is what they deserve. It's not like they murdered someone, and this is not Iran. If you are IN the car, or if they are breaking into your house, blow them away. They probably aren't coming in to help you carry the groceries, so physical damage is most likely warranted to prevent harm to you or your family. But permanent physical harm for breaking into an unmanned car parked outside? Theft is not okay, but it's not worth killing someone over or cutting off a hand (at least not to me). It's not so much the fact they are taking the item, if someone genuinely needs it that bad, and asks for it, I will give to them. If they are in need of food, clothing, shelter, I'm first in line to help. However times have changed, and you see on the news every night where victims willingly give up the goods, and still get shot, or killed. These are not the perps of ten, or even five years ago. It's almost like it's SOP for them to harm you during a robbery. If you confront someone stealing from you, you'd best be prepared to (and more than likely will need to) squeeze the trigger. |
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Really shocked...
Yes I have a garage, my home is 13 months old, MY vehicles were not in it that night because I had all of my deployment gear spread out to be packed for my upcoming holiday to Afganistan. The TomTom was in the glove box. Stealing is a crime. Murder and rape is too. Any thought along with "you were asking for a thief to come along by parking outside, or your daughter/wife wanted to get raped for wearing a dress, etc. is Moronic if that is what anyone would ever elude to. Even more mindless than blaming a victim for a crime would to be to blame the Police... like, "if the Police did their jobs their wouldn't be such a large crime problem in America." Because in the end, their are those who live within societies rules and uphold accepted morals, and then there are those who have their own. One more thing, legalize pot. Seriously. Tax someone else for a CHANGE. |